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Schwarzenegger Would "Do Damage" to Republican Party Suggests Political Analyst
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| August 28, 2003
Posted on 08/30/2003 6:14:46 AM PDT by miltonim
Social conservatives have a viable candidate in McClintock
TORONTO, August 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Steve Jalsevac, a long-time political analyst with Campaign Life Coalition Canada suggests that were actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to capture the Republican Governorship of California it would mean political damage for the Republican Party. "A core constituency within the Republican Party is its social conservatives, most importantly those who are pro-life and pro-family. Schwarzenegger is so obviously a liberal on social issues, his running as a Republican reeks of opportunism and demeans the party's integrity," said Jalsevac.
Republicans have another capable candidate in the race who is considered authentically conservative. California State Sen. Tom McClintock, first elected to the State Assembly in 1982, is also running. McClintock ran for state controller last year and lost by a margin of 0.3% to a Democrat. In that race, McClintock captured more votes than any other Republican on the ballot. In an interview with Human Events released today, McClintock acknowledges that he is pro-life and pro-family and willing to act legislatively on those convictions.
"As we have seen so many times in Canadian politics, conservative parties are usually a delicate balance between fiscal and social conservatives, and where fiscal conservatives are so insensitive as to alienate social conservatives, the Party suffers debilitating division," Jalsevac told LifeSite News. "Arnold may well give the Republicans Governorship of another state, but his strong liberal stance on social issues will damage Party unity and weaken critical differences in policy between the two major parties."
On a radio talk show yesterday, Schwarzenegger attempted to appear less offensive to social conservatives saying that he is pro-choice, but against "partial-birth" abortion; that he supports current domestic-partnership law but not gay 'marriage'". However, Schwarzenegger's Republican strategist Allan Hoffenblum was candid about the actor's negligible chances of appealing to social conservatives. Speaking of "family-value types", Hoffenblum said, "that is the group that is least likely to vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger regardless."
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldthepervert; california; getlostarnold; recall; recallarnold; schwarzenegger; schwarzenkennedy; whoinhellisjalsevac
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:14:47 AM PDT
by
miltonim
To: miltonim
There's another part of the Republican core constituency that believes in basic human rights.
One of these is the right to self-defense.
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:26:53 AM PDT
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: miltonim
Never take advice from a Canadian.
Especially about politics - look at how well they have done in Canada.
Ha Ha
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:27:50 AM PDT
by
sd-joe
To: miltonim
Attention Schwarzepubbies:
Social liberalism is incompatible with fiscal conservatism.
In an Arnie-style "anything goes" social liberal state, the first thing to go is your money--to the state, to pay for the excesses of social liberalism.
To: miltonim
The first thing Republicans need to remember is that this is NOT a primary.
I am reminded of someone's idea of a Republican firing squad.......Alright ...form a circle...ready - aim - fire.
Back your favorite up to a point and then count heads. Get behind the guy who has the best chance of winning. Hold your nose if you must. Improve once you've WON!!
This isn't rocket science.
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:43:34 AM PDT
by
Russ7
To: Kevin Curry
Social liberalism is incompatible with fiscal conservatism.
But California is already, and has been for decades, a social sewer, thanks to the then Governor Jerry Brown and the Democratic legislature enshrining perversions as rights within the California Constitution. An Arnold or a Tom or a Richard is not going to change that reality one bit. What we in California need right now is fiscal responsibility in Sacramento, not ideological purity.
To: sd-joe
Never take advice from a Canadian. Especially about politics - look at how well they have done in Canada. Ha Ha
Indeed.
To: miltonim
Hey, just curious if anyone read this article
http://www.laweekly.com/ink/03/41/deadline-finke.php I found on Drudge about Gloria Allred (hey, she always wears red, duh) where she says she is "disgusted, appalled, revolted, sickened, disturbed and troubled about Schwarzeneggers comments about the gang bang in 1977. Now besides that he could have just been speaking about an orgy, that the woman was willing, I`m just curious if MS. All-red ever said anything about Clinton and Juanita Brodderick, Paula Jones, Kathy Wiley etc etc...I can`t seem to remember her saying anything about that although I could be wrong. Am I?
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:53:06 AM PDT
by
scabbage
To: Russ7
Back your favorite up to a point and then count heads. Get behind the guy who has the best chance of winning. Hold your nose if you must. Improve once you've WON!!
This isn't rocket science.
No, it isn't rocket science.
It is, however, wrong, dead wrong, unforgivably wrong. It's easily seen within NY and within CA. CA's own governorship tells the tale of exactly how wrong-headed this popular theory of yours is.
This stupid theory put Bloomberg in power...and it put Gray Davis in power in his 2nd election...because the same people who made this claim of yours supported Riordan, and then didn't stop undercutting Simon after Riordan lost the primary.
Republican liberal apoligists keep forgetting that it wasn't Californian conservatives that have placed California in it's current situtation, tracking through California's history, it's been the Californian Republican liberals whom have aided and abetted those whom have put that state on the path it's on.
Some of us learn from history.
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posted on
08/30/2003 6:56:15 AM PDT
by
Maelstrom
(To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
To: Cultural Jihad; Russ7
Good points from both of your posts. The state is going under and it seems the main thing is to get someone in there who can at least try something different and clean out the corruption in the Governor's office and state agencies. Someone who isn't beholden to the unions and similar special interest groups, who will sell out the whole state for votes. Bustedmental isn't the one to do that since he's basically Davis' clone and hatchet man.
Then again, I'm not sure Arnold or McClintock can do much, either, since the state legislature is firmly in Rat hands and has been for awhile, and anything proposed by the Governor must go through it. But at least a new Governor can provide leadership and also clean out some of the losers that Davis put into control of the state bureaucracies.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:02:28 AM PDT
by
chimera
To: miltonim
To: miltonim
This is true. A political party is made in the image of the chief executives in that party. That is why, currently, there is very little talk in the national Republican Party concerning cutting government - President Bush just isn't interested in it.
If Arnold wins, fiscal and social conservatives will find themselves mysterioulsy shut out of the Governor's mansion. They will shake their heads and wonder why, since they worked so hard for his election.
To: sd-joe
This must be the canadian think tank that advises wesley clark!
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:04:18 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
To: Cultural Jihad
The purists will sit back and admire their handiwork as they endure busta-doofus.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:05:09 AM PDT
by
OldFriend
((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
To: miltonim
Stay up there and fix your own country first, my friend.
To: scabbage
I hate to agree with Gloria but.................she has a point with his background. He is a slime with money. It is as simple as that. I would not vote for him for anything.
To: Kevin Curry
In an "anything goes" social liberal state, the first thing to go is your money--to the state, to pay for the excesses of social liberalism.
-Kevin Curry-
" -- the federal Bill of Rights was designed as a limitation on federal power only."
Posted by Kevin Curry to tpaine
On News/Activism ^ 08/27/2003 8:18 PM PDT #90 of 129 ^
Curry, once again you 'out' yourself as a complete hypocrite..
Here you are raving & ranting about "socialist liberal states", while you advocate that they have such power.
Go figure.
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posted on
08/30/2003 7:08:29 AM PDT
by
tpaine
( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator!)
To: OldFriend
We'll sit back and watch you moulder and rot in Arnie's high tax social liberal sewer.
I will live elsewhere where men are still free, where social liberlaism is still recognized by the wise as being antithetical to liberty and low taxes.
To: Cultural Jihad
An Arnold or a Tom or a Richard is not going to change that reality one bit. I disagree. The Governor of a given state can do a great deal. Abortion, gay marriage, etc. can be fought and progress might be made in these battles. I would urge conservatives not to be convinced by the argument that a Governor is totally powerless on social issues and thus we can accept a Governor who is tragically wrong on virtually every issue.
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