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(Georgia) State flag flap stirs dust in Iraq
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 08/30/03 | JIM GALLOWAY

Posted on 08/29/2003 9:46:00 PM PDT by Pokey78

Photo by CPT Ken Hutnick, Co H 121st IN (ABN)(LRS), United States Army National Guard
Company H members surrounding the flag (from left to right) First Sgt. Mike Hurndon, Master Sgt. Andy McNicol, Master Sgt. Matt Marks, First Lt. Dave Lauer, Capt. Matt Smith and Capt. Ken Hutnick.

Political Insider columns about the flag photo:
•  Monday 8.25.03
•  Friday 8.29.03

Late Friday afternoon, toward the end of a long day in Baghdad, U.S. Army reserve Capt. Ken Hutnick of Alpharetta scored some time with a satellite phone.

He called stateside.

Not because he needed to hear the voice of his wife, Suzanne, or the gurgle of his 20-month-old daughter, Katharine. Hutnick called because Georgia's never-ending fight over the state flag had stretched clear to Iraq.

He and his unit have become wrapped up in it -- accused of fraud, in fact.

"What do we need to do from here to clear this up?" the captain asked.

The cast of characters in this story includes the new state flag, a sister in Middle Georgia, Gov. Sonny Perdue and the flaggers -- those hard-core disciples of the Confederate battle emblem, who keep in close touch via e-mail and Internet Web sites.

Hutnick, 39, is the manager of a mortgage loan office in Alpharetta. He gave up his family and his job -- temporarily, he hopes -- to do intelligence reconnaissance work for his country. He's been gone since March.

Flaggers protest

This summer, Hutnick had asked his sister in Perry to send him one of the new state flags. She did. He and his fellows, based at Fort Gillem, liked it. Last week, Hutnick sent her an e-mail:

"We took the attached photos with the new Georgia flag. If you can get these to the governor, I bet he would get a kick out of them. . . . Tell him Georgia's finest, Company H of the 121st Infantry, have been flying this flag over our TOC [Tactical Operations Center] in the heart of Iraq, Baghdad International Airport, and that we would like to present it to him when we get home. Good publicity for him and the unit."

Hutnick's sister is Megan Smith, president of the Perry Chamber of Commerce in Houston County, where the governor hails from. She did as her kid brother asked and sent the photos to Perdue.

The governor's aides were thrilled and passed them on to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Political Insider, a daily Internet column. One photo was published Monday -- Hutnick is on the far right of the group shot.

Almost immediately, a flood of Internet protests hit Georgia's political circles. Flaggers, who reject the new flag as a compromise despite its Confederate roots, challenged the authenticity of the photo- graph.

Fake, they said. Perdue's computer-literate henchmen had painted pixels in the shape of Georgia's newest flag, they deduced.

Hutnick, sweating in Iraq, saw many of those messages, relayed by his sister.

"We kind of take it as a personal insult -- when we're over here running missions and stuff," he said in a telephone interview. Hutnick has replied to some of the e-mails from flaggers. The general drift of his response has been simple: He and his crew don't need this distraction. Please stop.

Flaggers claimed to have their proof: a pair of e-mails, said to be from infantrymen in the picture, declaring the photo to be a hoax. But efforts to use the e-mail addresses of the soldiers, as presented by the flaggers, were unsuccessful.

The governor drew the conclusion that the flaggers' fervor had led them into dishonest territory.

"When you resort to forging e-mails from soldiers in Iraq -- that crosses the line," Perdue said Friday. "I'm embarrassed for them."

Perdue was once a friend of many of the flaggers and came to office in January with their help. During last year's campaign, Perdue promised a public vote on the state banner, tapping into anger over the way then-Gov. Roy Barnes persuaded the Legislature in 2001 to change the dominant Confederate emblem.

But since the Rebel battle emblem was removed as an option from next year's referendum, many flaggers have disowned Perdue. They now "flag" him with protests as heartily as they did Barnes.

A lot at stake

The photo from Iraq represents a convergence of interests.

A few dusty soldiers, who had adopted the new flag as a vestige of home, want their picture with the governor when they get back, a last souvenir of their war days. Members of Company H are three to four days away from moving to Kuwait, where they'll clean their equipment and head home -- by mid-September, they hope.

As for the governor, Perdue has much at stake in next year's March flag referendum. Voters will choose between two flags: the new one, which he signed into law this spring and is designed to look like the first political banner of the Confederacy; or the blue flag raised by Barnes in 2001. The 1956 state flag, with its Rebel cross, has no place on the ballot.

Republican strategists want the new state flag to be seen as the one carried by U.S. soldiers into battle -- they think it would create a hard-to-shake emotional bond with voters.

The tide of protests from supporters of the 1956 flag quickly subsided as word of Hutnick's phone call spread -- again via the Internet.

Ken Waters is a flagger, getting ready to run in a state House race in Paulding County. He followed the Iraq-flag flap closely. He now thinks "those brave soldiers were used as political pawns" by the governor and the Perry Chamber of Commerce. But he has decided that the photo of the state flag in Iraq is "probably real, though I have no way of knowing for sure." Then again, Waters said he might come to the state Capitol to meet Company H next month. Then he could see both flag and soldiers with his own eyes.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: dixie; georgiastateflag; rebuildingiraq

1 posted on 08/29/2003 9:46:01 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
I am a Texan and don't have a dog in this fight but my eye is on those who think a flag dispute deserves more comment than the service of the soldiers.
2 posted on 08/29/2003 9:51:12 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Pokey78; SeeRushToldU_So
Rush, I think this will interest you...........
3 posted on 08/29/2003 9:58:24 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: MEG33; Pokey78
"I am a Texan and don't have a dog in this fight but my eye is on those who think a flag dispute deserves more comment than the service of the soldiers."

I'm a Georgian, and I agree with you.

Those who are still obsessing over this issue here are in the vast minority.

4 posted on 08/29/2003 10:18:22 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds.....)
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To: Pokey78
These soldiers look like they mean business. The Ba'athists better watch out if these men are after them. (And they look proud of their flag!)

5 posted on 08/29/2003 10:20:10 PM PDT by BenLurkin (Socialism is slavery)
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To: viligantcitizen
I salute the great guys from Georgia serving my country.
6 posted on 08/29/2003 10:25:10 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Pokey78
I hate seeing people try to use soldiers as pawns...
I love this flag. It is beautiful in design (unlike most recent one, which looked like a Denny's placemat and was voted ugliest flag in the world by vexillologists (flag fanciers). The new flag has roots in the flags of the Confederacy for those who are proud of their heritage, without getting in-your-face about it and offending our neighbors. I rushed out and bought this design as a front license plate for my car, and hope all fellow Georgians will vote next March 4 to keep it.
7 posted on 08/30/2003 3:27:53 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: viligantcitizen
I'm a Georgian as well, and I like the flag that they are holding in the pic(The other "new" flag was quite ugly IMHO). There are alot of people in this state that need to get a grip. Insulting our soldiers for a genuine good gesture towards the state and the Governor is way out of bounds with me. These folks will say anything to get on the news or in the paper to dredge up a load of crap to draw attention to their lost-cause flag debate.
8 posted on 08/30/2003 5:12:59 AM PDT by Gringo1 (Handsome...and now with springtime fresh lemon scent.)
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To: Gringo1
The crying shame is that a news junkie like me, living in Georgia and reading the Macon Telegraph and trying to stay informed, did not even know Co. H, 121st IN (ABN)(LRS), 48th INF BDE was over there until they got ready to come home, and then only after they got wrapped up in the flag flap. They sound like a pretty high-speed outfit for the Guard, and they have probably done some great things over there, but they haven't got much publicity and credit for that.
9 posted on 08/30/2003 7:53:42 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 ("Leave the Artillerymen alone, they are an obstinate lot. . .")
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To: Pokey78
Almost immediately, a flood of Internet protests hit Georgia's political circles. Flaggers, who reject the new flag as a compromise despite its Confederate roots, challenged the authenticity of the photo- graph.

Three words
Get
A
Life.
10 posted on 08/30/2003 7:59:41 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Pokey78
I'm not a Georgian, and I don't think the picture of the soldiers should have been used by the flaggers for their protest. Our fighting men shouldn't have to be distracted by local disputes.

Having said that I do think something isn't right about this Georgia flag fuss.

A whole lot of people made a fuss about the Gerogia flag until it was taken down and replaced with another flag. Not much was said about shutting these people up, or telling them to get a life, or stop living in the past, etc., etc. It seems nobody asked a good portion of Georgia voters how they felt about their flag being replaced without their consent, and in the process the Governor lost his job.

Now there's a bunch of people doing what the first group of people did (getting loud and making a fuss) and these people are being told to get a life, stop living in the past, and shutting up, etc. etc. Kind of a double standard it seems.

I hear that this flag issue is going to be put to a vote soon, but the 1956 flag won't be allowed to be voted on. No matter which flag a Georgian likes it seems the 1956 flag should be among those considered since it's the people who are voting for the state flag they themselves want, and not a minority of politically correct people. The majority of Georgia voters should decide for themselves what flag flies over their state not the hired help.

Seems that the folks in Georgia are being told which half of the hog they're allowed to buy. Something just isn't right about this Georgia flag thing, but then it's not my flag the PC crowd is after - yet.



11 posted on 08/30/2003 11:07:40 AM PDT by Noachian (Legislation Without Representation Is Tyranny)
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To: BenLurkin
We SALUTE YOU! May GOD BLESS all of YOU! Come home soon. Love the flag. Thomas M. from GEORGIA.
12 posted on 03/02/2004 8:41:59 PM PST by tmercer30
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