Posted on 08/28/2003 12:24:49 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
Meanwhile, in America, when asked on CNN whether principles of religious equality would lead him to support an Islamic monument similar to the two-ton commandments, Moore replied, "This nation was founded upon the laws of God, not upon the Koran." In the Christian press, Moore went even further: "This country wasn't founded upon Allah; it was founded upon the Holy Bible, and the question is whether we [Christians] are going to take a stand."
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8728
Asked on CNN whether he would support an Islamic monument to the Koran in the rotunda of the federal building, Moore replied, "This nation was founded upon the laws of God, not upon the Koran. That's clear in the Declaration [of Independence], so it wouldn't fit history and it wouldn't fit law."
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/08/22/ten.commandments/index.html
I'm sure your apology will be immediately forthcoming.
What you posted says nothing about your statement. You said he would not allow ANY statement. Your source says he would not SUPPORT another monument. Two completely different things.
Which doesn't mean I am opposed to religious people being in government or even to practicing it. People can pray wherever they want as far as I'm concerned, including government employees. I'm a Christian and proud to say so but I don't believe that people of any faith should use government (which, after all, is just force) to spread their idea of religion.
What you posted says nothing about your statement. You said he would not allow ANY statement. Your source says he would not SUPPORT another monument. Two completely different things.
You resort to sophistry when you get caught with your pants down, don't you?
Freedom is Slavery, and Ignorance is Strength. Uh-huh.
Of course! If it offends you, lets get rid of it! The primary right given in the constitution is the right not to be offended! (Unless of course, the offense is caused by things that offend God.)
Then I expect I shall have your full support in having all statues/memorials to Greek and Roman gods/goddesses removed from any governmental facility. As I understand it, there is one right in the same building "Moore's" 10 commandment monument was in. We can start there.
Ah, so it's okay as long as other 'faiths' are presented. I understand there is a statue of the Greek goddess of justice in the very same building that "Moore's" 10 commandment monument stood. Seems to me that criteria has been met.
"They are placed there as art, and are anyway nearly universally considered as myths."
Nevertheless, it is promotion of a religion, which you say is wrong. They must be removed.
There has to be some consideration of intent.
Are there any Supreme Court justices or employees who worship such Greek / Roman "gods" and put the statue there as a religious statement?
Is someone claiming their judicial powers derive from such Greek / Roman "god"?
Is anyone claiming Greek / Roman gods gave us laws that are the "highest law of the land"?
I think not.
Really? So we are to presume someone's intent? I don't see how that is possible. Even if they make a claim as to their intent, we can only have faith that they are being truthful.
"Are there any Supreme Court justices or employees who worship such Greek / Roman "gods" and put the statue there as a religious statement?"
I haven't done a poll. So the issue is, if they worship the God which everyone seems to be reminded of when they look at the monument/statue, that is when it becomes wrong? So if Moore was a Buddhist, this monument would be okay?
"Is anyone claiming Greek / Roman gods gave us laws that are the "highest law of the land"?
Many claim that our system of justice came from the Romans and the Greeks, and I know there are statues to both the Roman and Greek god/goddess of justice in a few courthouses around this land. I view that as the same thing.
I don't believe there's any presumption required. Judge Moore has publicly stated his intent. I will take him at his word until he's proven a liar.
So if Moore was a Buddhist, this monument would be okay?
Moore's religion is immaterial. If he uses his government office and government facilities to favor a particular religion, he's wrong. Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Catholic - it doesn't matter.
Many claim that our system of justice came from the Romans and the Greeks, and I know there are statues to both the Roman and Greek god/goddess of justice in a few courthouses around this land. I view that as the same thing.
I haven't heard folks make that claim (I've heard England), and I haven't heard anyone claim that laws given by their (Roman / Greek) gods were the law of our land.
When's the last time you took a close look at the country around you?
And that is JUST what he did when he interviewed with CRM.
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