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General [Clark] blames US for Iraq 'chaos'
BBC News ^ | 8/28/03 | Staff

Posted on 08/28/2003 7:42:33 AM PDT by TastyManatees

General blames US for Iraq 'chaos'

The former commander of Nato forces in Europe, General Wesley Clark, says American policy has "created chaos" in Iraq.

General Clark said the fundamental problem was the US tendency to fight states to get at "terrorists", rather than take on the "terrorists" themselves.

"We may have given Osama Bin Laden the recharge he needed to rebuild his arsenal and his ranks," he told the BBC's World Today programme.

General Clark is being encouraged to become a [D]emocratic [sic] candidate for next year's presidential election, but has not yet announced if he will stand.

His criticisms coincided with a warning from the US administrator in Iraq, Paul Bremer, that the country would need tens of billions of dollars to rebuild its shattered infrastructure.

The bill to overhaul essential services would reach almost $30bn, on top of the estimated $1bn per week the US already spends on its forces in Iraq, he said.

President George W Bush has pledged "no retreat" in Iraq, saying US-led forces are making good progress in restoring order and insisting Iraq is part of the wider war on terror.

But General Clark expressed reservations about waging war on a country that he did not believe was "particularly linked to terrorism" or an "imminent danger".

He said the war should have resulted in restored Iraqi relations with the UN and Nato, finding weapons of mass destruction and ensuring Iraq would "not become a hotbed of international terrorism".

"We are drawing in terrorists. We have created chaos in Iraq," he said.

'Rethink strategy'

America should have concentrated its efforts on the "fundamental problem" of fighting "terrorism", he argued.

"What I have seen again and again is a tendency to want to attack states to get at terrorists rather than dealing with the harder problem of getting the terrorists themselves."

Bremer says some $30bn is needed to restore basic services He said America should rethink its strategy on Iraq, and work to ensure Iraqis could take back control of their borders, security and reconstruction.

General Clark said he would announce in the coming days if he would stand as a democratic candidate in next year's presidential elections.

The situation in Iraq is fast becoming an issue for next year's presidential election, the BBC's Justin Webb reports from Washington.

Mr Bush's speeches have been branded "empty rhetoric" by opposition candidates, and his popularity ratings have fallen.

The number of American deaths since the end of major combat operations on 1 May has now surpassed the number killed during the war - 139 compared to 138.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2004; blame; bush; chaos; clark; election; electionpresident; general; iraq; saddamhandmaidens; wesleyclark
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Perhaps you remember Clark as the ineffective political general who botched the Serbian campaign and was fired by the last administration. Well, he's running for President now, and he looks like he advocates a withdrawal of American forces from Iraq.

Tasty Manatees
1 posted on 08/28/2003 7:42:34 AM PDT by TastyManatees
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To: TastyManatees
So Weasely Wesley first says this:

General Clark said the fundamental problem was the US tendency to fight states to get at "terrorists", rather than take on the "terrorists" themselves.

And then, without blinking, says this:

"We are drawing in terrorists. We have created chaos in Iraq," he said.

What a maroon.

2 posted on 08/28/2003 7:45:22 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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To: TastyManatees
Methinks Comrade Clark should stick to his day job as military "expert"? on CNN. That way, when he starts to babble I can simply change the station.
3 posted on 08/28/2003 7:45:39 AM PDT by WestPacSailor (We are Microsoft. Resistance is futile! You will be assimilated.)
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To: TastyManatees
It was the team of Clark and Albright who brought us the bombing fo Serbia.

So much for their brand of diplomacy that they keep wishing on us now.

4 posted on 08/28/2003 7:46:26 AM PDT by OldFriend ((Dems inhabit a parallel universe))
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To: TastyManatees
He's a hosebag with a big mouth.
5 posted on 08/28/2003 7:46:28 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: TastyManatees
But General Clark expressed reservations about waging war on a country that he did not believe was "particularly linked to terrorism" or an "imminent danger".

Bush made it absolutely clear in his speeches that Iraq was *NOT* an imminent danger. His point was "I will not risk this country's safety by waiting until Iraq *is* an imminent danger".

Clark's claims about bin Laden's recruiting are laughable. To quote Osama himself, people prefer the strong horse. The strong horse isn't the cave-cowering leadership of Al Qaeda.

Also it's real cute how the libs in the media are now combining the combat *and* non-combat deaths since May. It's a subtle shift intended to make Bush look bad.

6 posted on 08/28/2003 7:49:21 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: dirtboy
He and Hillary! are doing the last of their focus-grouping as we speak, and after the statistics are in next week will decide whether to run.

I promise you they'll pair up somehow.

7 posted on 08/28/2003 7:51:01 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: WestPacSailor
CNN fired Clark.

Tasty Manatees
8 posted on 08/28/2003 7:51:39 AM PDT by TastyManatees (http://www.tastymanatees.com)
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To: TastyManatees
General Clark said the fundamental problem was the US tendency to fight states to get at "terrorists", rather than take on the "terrorists" themselves

With all due respect, Sir, go @^#& yourself.

This statement is nonsense, and you know it. How would you propose to attack As Qaida bases in Afghanistan and engage their forces without the permission of the host nation? The Taliban wasn't going to let us in, they went to war over it. What are you going to use on a nation that won't allow you access to their terrorists, Sir? Harsh language?

This is the dumbest thing I've read all day.

9 posted on 08/28/2003 7:52:21 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Too close for guns, switching to missiles!)
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To: TastyManatees
General Clark is being encouraged to become a [D]emocratic [sic] candidate for next year's presidential election, but has not yet announced if he will stand.

Why vote for him? Why would any one want to? So he can do the same thing to stop terrorism that Clinton did? Have cocain and pizza parties? Maybe a few bj's for the guests?

In my opinion, this guy is a total fruit cake.

"We are drawing in terrorists. We have created chaos in Iraq," he said.

Of course we have, idiot! Bush lured the terrorist to Iraq where armed solders are waiting for them, and away from the people he serves - us!

BTW, a new baby has been born in Iraq. The mother named her son George Bush. It sounds like the innocent are supporting GW to me.

10 posted on 08/28/2003 7:54:42 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifer lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: TastyManatees
Well, he certainly passes a major DemocRAT litmus test: blame America first (for everything).

Too bad the Army can't excommunicate him.

11 posted on 08/28/2003 7:54:42 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: TastyManatees
General Clark said the fundamental problem was the US tendency to fight states to get at "terrorists", rather than take on the "terrorists" themselves.

That's already been tried, General. Our former anti-terrorist strategy (the one that didn't involve fighting other states) included lobbing cruise missiles at a tent encampment in Afghanistan, and waiting until the terrorists struck us at home. Do you seriously think that since 9/11 the American public wants to return to those days? That's what I thought...

12 posted on 08/28/2003 7:56:11 AM PDT by Tallguy (Just taking life with a grain of salt....oh, and a slice of lime and a shot of tequila...)
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This would be the same guy whose nose is stained brown from being up Clintons rear end, right? The Democratic field of candidates is starting to look like the cast of "Who framed Roger Rabbit."
13 posted on 08/28/2003 7:58:56 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: TastyManatees
Wesley Clark is no laughing matter. If this man gained power, he would be the first potential American Adolf Hitler. His career highlights, including planning and leading the Waco assault, and his NATO command show actions which hint at psychological instability and capabilities of detached brutality. His career shows an unprecedented advancement by Bill Clinton which more than hints at payback for nasty secrets kept.

Read more HERE. A very disturbing read.

14 posted on 08/28/2003 7:58:58 AM PDT by montag813
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To: TastyManatees
"Bremer says some $30bn is needed to restore basic services He said America should rethink its strategy on Iraq, and work to ensure Iraqis could take back control of their borders, security and reconstruction."

It's interesting that this isn't in quotes, because I don't recall Bremer saying we need to "rethink our strategy." He did say we need more money, but the idea of giving control to the Iraqis has been the plan from day one. These things are not accomplished overnight.
15 posted on 08/28/2003 8:01:47 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle (uo)
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To: WestPacSailor
Methinks Comrade Clark should stick to his day job as military "expert"? on CNN. That way, when he starts to babble I can simply change the station.

He may have to find another day job - Lou Dobbs recently banned Weasley Clark from appearing on his show. Dobbs said Clark was deliberately misrepresenting what was happening during the war in order to discredit the Bush administration. LOL!

16 posted on 08/28/2003 8:02:47 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: txflake
He and Hillary! are doing the last of their focus-grouping as we speak, and after the statistics are in next week will decide whether to run. I promise you they'll pair up somehow.

You beat me to it. But is Shrillary really that stupid?

17 posted on 08/28/2003 8:04:00 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: TastyManatees
"What I have seen again and again is a tendency to want to attack states to get at terrorists rather than dealing with the harder problem of getting the terrorists themselves."

What an inane statement!

Like Saddam was going to let us into his coutry to take out the terrorists he was harboring there.

We can't even get Saudi Arabia to let us take out the terrorists that they harbor.

18 posted on 08/28/2003 8:04:55 AM PDT by xzins (In the Beginning was the Word)
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To: montag813
His career highlights, including planning and leading the Waco assault, and his NATO command show actions which hint at psychological instability and capabilities of detached brutality.

Any further discussion as to why he fit in so well with the Clintonistas?

19 posted on 08/28/2003 8:05:10 AM PDT by HenryLeeII
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To: montag813; GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
ping -- Gatun, you were talking about when/if Clark sticks his head out vis-a-vis Hillary!'s running...
20 posted on 08/28/2003 8:06:17 AM PDT by txhurl
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