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Arnold Is No "Liberal" (Truth is Out!)
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| 26AUG2003
| Bob Chandra
Posted on 08/26/2003 1:14:51 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Spiff
Most of your (often-posted) post with the Arnold quotes is entirely fair, but not the characterization of Perenchio as "left-wing." He and his business(es) donate a ton of political money and, although a lot of it goes to people on the left of the nation's political center, most of it by far goes to conservatives ... and a quick eyeballing of the available data strongly suggests Perenchio
is turning away from his past liberal notions ... and that he "plays the field" quite a bit.
Click
here for contributions for election cycles ending in 2004, 2002 and 2000. True, I see Ted Kennedy and John Conyers on the list for $1k each, but not since 1999. More recently, I see SIX-FIGURE donations to the RNC and NRSC ... I see some "bad" donations, like those to Loretta Sanchez, the DNC ($25k, which is bad, but it's still tons less than he gives to the GOP), Harry Reid and Little Dick Gephardt ... but I see a LOT MORE recently to W. ... even James Rogan when he was under (ultimately successful) attack for his role in impeaching Clinton.
Perenchio just likes to have someone he can call in DC: "access." The evidence doesn't support a "left-wing" bent on his part. His support of more GOP/conservative efforts in recent years than Dem/liberal ones suggests that he may be turning rightward. If so, let's not discourage him; let's co-opt him.
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posted on
08/26/2003 1:54:38 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Spiff
MAN! You sure can type fast!
Or is that what they call 'spamming from another thread'?
To: pogo101
First, the characterization of Perenchio as a leftist came from another source. And I've already looked up his political donations. He gives more money to Democrat candidates than Republican candidates, but he gives more money directly to the RNC and other committees within the RNC than to committees in the DNC.
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posted on
08/26/2003 1:57:33 PM PDT
by
Spiff
(Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
To: familyop
I am reserving my decision until the election.
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posted on
08/26/2003 1:59:20 PM PDT
by
Feiny
(Courtesy is not a sign of weakness.)
To: Spiff
To: deport
Here's one of Bush's positions...
Quotes from another thread:
Bustamante as governor would not be good news for Bush. As a Democrat in the governors chair, he would inherit Daviss fiscal problems but not his personal baggage. Accordingly, the election of a Republican Oct. 7 suddenly becomes a Bush priority. Nobody gives 2002 nominee Bill Simon a prayer, and state Sen. Tom McClintock is a very dark horse. That is why, on the day after Schwarzenegger nudged aside Riordan to become a candidate, the President declared of the five-time Mr. Universe: I think hed make a good governor.
LINK
I think McClintock is the better candidate. If he can't win I will vote for someone else rather than see Davis or worse yet Bustamante hold the office.
To: Spiff
the characterization of Perenchio as a leftist came from another source
OK. This is a tiny nit to pick: your post presents it as your own view, or so I believe most readers would construe it. To present it as someone other source's view and not as yours, most writers would use a turn of phrase like, "Perenchio, whom one source has termed 'left-wing' and who has long supported Grayout Davis ... ."
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:02:11 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Nice post. There's too much slanted (or half) truth being flung around on this forum concerning Schwarzenegger.
To: Kibbylou
Better than RAT-heavy!
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:08:00 PM PDT
by
Redleg Duke
(Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
To: DoughtyOne
Thanks, but bear in mind I like both guys for gov., and have to concede that the chart I was referring to has a lot of fair comparisons.
Wish I could elect both guys and pick the best bits. *L*
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:08:42 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: DoughtyOne
"Here's one of Bush's positions..."
LOL! That's the best endorsement anyone could give!
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:09:57 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: DoughtyOne
ROFL! Good one!
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:11:35 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: DoughtyOne; jfritsch
Here's one of Bush's positions...
Thanks but I was asking the poster if he has a similar list of "Bustamante's" Positions similar to the Schwarzenegger statements he detailed in his post....
My point is that I believe Bustamante needs to be exposed for what he believes and how he would govern. I think the Republican candidates/supporters need to push their positives and leave the tearing down of each other out of it. Positives reflect upon the candidates and their supports in a good way while negatives become hard to overcome when it becomes time to try and unite behind a candidate to defeat the democrat. But then maybe electing a democrat is the objective. There will be plenty of Republican bashing by the Democrats as the race nears election day.
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:12:44 PM PDT
by
deport
To: BunnySlippers
And how long do you suppose he will stay fiscally conservative? That's one thing I haven't heard any answer upon. Honestly, we all know that power corrupts and without something to hold force in check, the more corrupt people become. What's to stop a moderate from becoming liberal when surrounded by power? I simply have no faith in moderatism, because it is nothing.
It is madness to say that "fiscal conservativism is the only thing that matters" when the governor can wreak all kinds of havok on other fronts. It is irresponsible if nothing else...
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:12:51 PM PDT
by
=Intervention=
(Moderatism is the most lackluster battle-cry.)
To: Spiff
If it's southeast Arizona, ain't that sorta like word
from Las Vegas? LOL!
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:13:04 PM PDT
by
familyop
(Essayons)
To: pogo101
I like them both also, and actually prefer McClintock.
To: familyop
In all fairness, I canibalized this graphic from the one against Schwarzenegger on the forum. I morphed it to what you see here.
To: deport
And I think that was an excellent point. Don't hold your breath while that list is developed. I doubt it's going to show up.
To: familyop
Arnold has given private assurances to congressmen and Republican Party leaders that he will come out against partial-birth abortion, pederasts in the Boy Scouts, and welfare for illegal aliens. When will this happen?
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:22:43 PM PDT
by
SunStar
(Democrats piss me off!)
To: Spiff
Personally, I am a member of the "Let the People's Republik of Kalifornia crash and burn with a Democrat so that the it makes a good example for the rest of the country" caucus.
That said, for all his RINO status, Ahhhnold is still to the right of Bustamonte (and most of the PRK legislature), has the poll numbers, the money, and the name recognition. If'n you want a Republican running the PRK, you need to support Arnold Schwartzenegger. He is also probably the best chance ya'll will ever have of pryin' the PRK's electoral votes out the fingers of the Democrats.
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posted on
08/26/2003 2:26:58 PM PDT
by
Little Ray
(If it is not cruel and unusual, it is not punishment!)
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