Arnold to Debate McClintock (Of course not; just Humor)

Parodies R Us ^ | August 26 | evil conservatives

[B Knotts]

He apparently is a fiscal conservative.

"Everything has to be provided for the people." --Arnold Schwarzenegger, announcing his candidacy for governor

[Registered]

Let's see a open and honest debate of the issues, and then conclude who is and who isn't the best qualified candidate.


I will concede, McClintock is the better candidate when it comes to the issues. Debating is fruitless because I agree with you. However, that fact will not motivate the voters as I mentioned above.

[B Knotts]

What facts? You are basing your preference on feelings. Schwarzenegger has no plan to cut government spending. He has no plans to do anything. It's all just feelings and showbiz.

[B Knotts]

Consider this: the worst possible scenario for the GOP is if Schwarzenegger is elected, bungles the job badly, and the Republican Party gets the blame.

[Registered]

Schwarzenegger has no plan to cut government spending

You are wrong or you just didn't see his news conference where he said he was going to bring in the auditors and afterward begin making intelligent cuts.

[B Knotts]

Yeah...auditors. Well, that's something, anyhow, I suppose.

McClintock is the better man for the job. He already knows how to hit the ground running, which is what's required, IMO.

[Registered]

If I based my vote on "worst possible" scenarios for the GOP I wouldn't vote at all. Especially taking their past "successes" into consideration.

[SW6906]

Go Bustamove!

I don't live in California, nor do I play a Californian on TV, but I honestly hope Bustamante wins. CA is a friggin mess, no Arnold or McClintock is going to be able to sort it out when saddled with a DemoRat legislature and only a few years before the next election, and I want its failure securely hung on the Democrats shoulders.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

This isn't the primaries. The GOP has one shot at this, sorry that Arnold isn't as conservative as we like, but the majority of votes is what we are after here

Where in the wide world of Expanding Government does this "we" come from? Probably the same place this unsubstantiated claim originated; He apparently is a fiscal conservative.

No he is apparently a fiscal whatever you need him to be. That's perfect for movie actors, and he is one of my favorites, but whether you are a liberal, conservative, and certainly an Independent-that doesn't resonate with voters.

I prefer half a plank to no plank at all taking residence in the Governor's mansion

When you are standing on what you are convinced is half a plank...and it breaks, you don't wanna be falling into the pit of aligators in Sacramento, since you are so desiring to deal with REALITY.

If you want to go down with the SS McClintock, feel free, but the only lifeboat in this is Austrian made.

Really? Haven't heard that before. Still waiting for an answer to these questions from those so convinced of that;

1. What are (R)nolds total %? [that's easy, everybody knows its 22%]

2. What are (R)nolds % of Demos he is getting votes from? What are his Unfavorables with Demos?

3. A bigger part to any early poll is the Unfavorable rather than the "for", which is why Simon dropped out, any idea what (R)nolds overall unfavorables are?

4. Most of all, since 22% won't get it done, what are the % of people still undecided?

If you don't know, you won't like the answers. http://field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/RLS2082.pdf

[Registered]

You continue to ignore or look the other way to the fact that this is a two-fold election, it isn't a Primary, and the voter must be motivated both ways here.

[headsonpikes]

Modern electoral politics is a filthy business - that's why the Democrats do so well at it, it's there natural habitat.

Conservatives are always too hampered by principle to truly flourish in this environment.

That's why we have to hold our noses all the time!

But the Democrats are worse than ANY 'R' alternative, therefore it's nose-holding time, nonetheless.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

no Arnold or McClintock is going to be able to sort it out when saddled with a DemoRat legislature and only a few years before the next election, and I want its failure securely hung on the Democrats shoulders.

Well I used to really hate this Out-Of-State talk, but more and more I am convinced it is true considering (R)nold. As for McClintock, I highly recommend you check out his plan, and his collumns. We really aren't in that big of a "mess" since the economy is still generating more income to tax every year. Technically, if we didn't have a Demo going along with spending increases, we would have a HUGE surplus right now. Read this http://www.tommcclintock.com/tomsplan/index.cfm

[Bob]

I think you've incorrectly listed Arnold as "Against" on the Ward Connerly initiative. He said (yesterday, I believe) that his team is studying the issue and will tell him what he thinks about it real soon. He's not officially against it yet but he may turn out to be in the end.

[B Knotts]

I'm looking at this for what it is...a multiple candidate free-for-all, the outcome of which no one can predict with any degree of certainty. Anything could happen, especially after a debate or two. It's far too early to be throwing all the marbles into the largely undefined Schwarzenegger candidacy.

[B Knotts]

I've been told that, too. But, you have to ask: what's to study? That should be a no-brainer.

[Registered]

How do you feel about McClintock getting only 9% in that poll? LOL.

Add 'em up. You really believe you can swing GOP votes enough to get McClintock in office?

[pogo101]

Nice chart. Let's go through it.

1. Voiding of energy contracts? Won't work legally. The conflict of interest alleged on the part of a Davis negotiator was too small, relative to the mammoth size of the contracts, to permit a successor to Davis to void those contracts -- and it will be next to impossible to prove that any such conflict made a substantial difference in the rates and other terms in the finished deal.

From the standpoint of the "other party" to the contracts, namely the energy companies, a deal's a deal, and it isn't fair (or legal) to back out of it based on an allegation that one of dozens and dozens of the former governor's negotiators may have been on the take -- unbeknownst to the energy companies, which entered this deal in good faith.

(Mind you, I don't begrudge McClintock giving this whole "voiding" thing a shot. Why not? But I know of no respected legal minds who believe that it actually will work.)

2. Workers' Comp. Well, Tom's promised to TAKE ACTION on his first day in office, but there's no way the Rat Legislature will pass it. So we're talking about gathering signatures for several months to have an initiative placed on the ballot.

Point: it's a little disingenuous to insist that the "fix" will be DONE on anyone's first day in office. Plus, didn't Arnold essentially adopt the same position?

3. Car Tax. Here the problem, a glaring one, is your "???" in the Schwarzenegger column. He's repeatedly pledged, just like McC, to roll back the car tax hike.

This is the worst mistake in the entire chart. IMO, any future postings of this chart, without an honest change to this part of it, would simply constitute a knowing falsehood.

4. Both men have pledged cuts in government spending. As it is, the distinction you draw is entirely subjective -- you just BELIEVE McClintock more -- whereas the implicit point of a "compare for yourself" chart is OBJECTIVITY. It just diminshes the entire chart's credibility. (And I assume you are trying to convince people, not simply preach to the converted.)

Perhaps, if you wish to continue to draw a distinction honestly, you should amend it to point out that McClintock has detailed plans, etc., whereas Schwarzenegger doesn't (yet).

5. & 7. These either are ill-informed or disingenuous. Prop 187 was overturned in large measure, and that judgment stands. The governor cannot legally enforce it and has extremely limited legal powers in terms of border control. (Davis sold us out on the 187 judgment's appeal, and it's too late to reopen the case now for further appeal.) McClintock, if elected, won't be doing anyone any good going George Wallace on us by defying that standing judgment.

Change in immigration areas is up to the feds -- which is why John & Ken (KFI 640, LA) often get CA's House of Reps members (NOT state Legislature or governor's office reps) on the horn and demand to know what they'll do about illegal immigration.

6., 8., 9., 10., 11., 12.: These seem pretty fair. I'm betting Schwarzenegger will soon put out positions against partial-birth abortion and pro-parental-notification-for-minors, but it's fair to put up "???" until he clarifies his stances.

[Registered]

Thank you.