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BIRCH SOCIETY IS NOT AN ACCURATE SOURCE OF INFO
Ernieinps@aol.com

Posted on 08/26/2003 9:13:14 AM PDT by Ernie.cal

The John Birch Society has long been our country's premier purveyor of conspiratorial interpretations of past history and current events. This posting is devoted to discussing some details from FBI files which speak to the unreliability and inaccuracy of JBS data and conclusions.

In 1964, FBI Director Hoover stated that he "had little respect for Robert Welch" (founder and leader of the the Birch Society) because of Welch's defamatory comments about President Eisenhower, the Dulles brothers, Chief Justice Warren, and others. He referred to Welch and the Birch Society as "extremist" and "irresponsible".

Also see Hoover's testimony (copied below) before the Warren Commission (Volume V, page 97) when he was asked about an article on JFK's assassination that was published in the JBS magazine, American Opinion:

"Mr. Hoover: I have read that piece. My comment on it is this in general: I think the extreme right is just as much a danger to the freedom of this country as the extreme left. There are groups, organizations, and individuals on the extreme right who make these very violent statements, allegations that General Eisenhower was a Communist, disparaging references to the Chief Justice and at the other end of the spectrum you have these leftists who make wild statements charging almost anybody with being a Fascist or belonging to some of these so-called extreme right societies. Now, I have felt, and I have said publicly in speeches, that they are just as much a danger, at either end of the spectrum. They don't deal with facts. Anybody who will allege that General Eisenhower was a Communist agent, has something wrong with him. A lot of people read such allegations because I get some of the weirdest letters wanting to know whether we have inquired to find out whether that is true. I have known General Eisenhower quite well myself and I have found him to be a sound, level-headed man."

Bureau documents make it clear that, on numerous matters, the FBI thought that the Birch Society was not only wrong on substance, it also injured our society by its reckless and venomous attacks.

Here is one example:

Robert Welch and the JBS referred to author Harry A. Overstreet as a Communist sympathizer or dupe and they denounced Harry's 1958 book "What We Must Know About Communism" as being designed to insure that we did nothing effective against the Communist conspiracy. (See October 1959 Edward Janisch article in Birch magazine American Opinion which was entitled, "What We Must Know About Overstreet" for an example of how the JBS attacked and vilified a loyal American.)

In subsequent years, Welch described his campaign against Harry Overstreet as one of the Birch Society's greatest accomplishments.

What Welch did not know however, is that the FBI assisted Overstreet in writing this book! In fact, internal FBI documents refer to the book as being a useful supplement to J. Edgar Hoover's book "Masters of Deceit" and the FBI asked the American Legion to add the Overstreet book to its recommended reading list (which it did). In a letter to the Director of the Americanism Commission of the Legion, FBI Assistant Director C.D. DeLoach said: "We agree that it is a good one and would you please put it on your approved list."

In October 1958 the Bureau prepared a formal review of the Overstreet book. It was described as a welcome "new aid" in combatting the Communist menace. Quoting from the review memo:

"This new book presents cogent advice to the thinking public. It reflects ideas common to the thinking which has gone on in the Bureau for many years."

FBI Director Hoover told the Attorney General that it "would be a good idea (to) encourage everyone in the Justice Department to read it" and he remarked that he was disappointed that reviews of the book had been cool.

The controversy over Overstreet and his book continued for years due, largely, to the JBS smear campaign against him which took the form of attempting to get Harry's speaking engagements around the country cancelled due to his alleged pro-Communist sympathies or planting hostile questioners in his audiences.

At one point Harry's wife Bonaro wrote to their primary contact within the Bureau (Lou Nichols) to express their frustration and anger at being attacked in Texas by American Legion representatives. Nichols and the Bureau's liaison to the Legion (Asst Director C.D. DeLoach) contacted officials of the American Legion to set the record straight about Harry and his wife, whereupon attacks by Legioneers stopped.

In February 1961 J. Edgar Hoover responded to an inquiry about the Overstreet book. The Bureau file copy has the following notation: "We have had cordial relations with Dr. and Mrs. Harry Allen Overstreet and have furnished them considerable assistance in connection with their books."

The Bureau subsequently assisted Harry with other books that he wrote, including: "The Strange Tactics of Extremism" (1964) and "The FBI In Our Open Society" (1969). In "Strange Tactics" Harry devoted a chapter to former FBI agent (and Birch supporter) Dan Smoot. Harry dissected falsehoods that Smoot published in his newsletter, Dan Smoot Reports.

FBI Assistant Director DeLoach prepared a review of "Strange Tactics" and he specifically applauded Harry's discussion of Smoot because the Bureau thought Smoot was propagating extreme rightwing viewpoints and was wrongly capitalizing on his former association with the Bureau to inflate his credibility.

Smoot, along with Fred Schwarz (Christian Anti-Communism Crusade), Billy James Hargis (Christian Crusade), and Edgar Bundy (Church League of America), were often described sarcastically in Bureau memos as "professional anti-Communists."

Incidentally, Harry Overstreet probably belongs in the Guiness Book of Records since he would be the only alleged Communist sympathizer ever to author a highly commendatory review of J. Edgar Hoover's 1958 book "Masters of Deceit" which appeared in the June 1958 issue of National Parent-Teacher (national PTA magazine). Upon learning about it, J. Edgar Hoover sent Harry a thank-you note.

When Harry died in 1970, Hoover sent a condolence telegram to his wife, Bonaro. It praised Harry's "many contributions" to the fight against Communism and offered deepest sympathies from "his many friends at the Bureau".

Robert Morris, the former Chief Counsel of the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, had a close personal relationship with the Overstreets. Morris wrote to me in March 1989 about the Overstreets. Here is an excerpt:

"I did know Harry and Bonaro Overstreet in the late 1950s and 1960s. They were introduced to me by Louis Nichols when he was Assistant Director of the FBI. They were most helpful to me in my capacity of Chief Counsel to the U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee...They became my friends and I am still grateful for their friendship."

Former FBI Security Informant Herbert Philbrick of "I Led 3 Lives" fame, and the California Senate Factfinding Subcommittee on UnAmerican Activities both referred to Harry Overstreet as an expert with extensive knowledge about how to fight Communism.

This is merely one example of how the Birch Society did enormous damage to our country by impugning the integrity and loyalty of Americans who did not share their warped viewpoints.

Anyone interested in further details about Overstreet or the FBI's negative evaluations about Robert Welch and The John Birch Society, feel free to contact me at: ernieinps@aol.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anticommunism; birch; bircher; birchsociety; catholiclist; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; fbi; jbs; johnbirch; johnbirchsociety; johnmcmanus; newamerican; thenewamerican; williamfjasper
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To: Ernie.cal
Would the JBS be the Right's version of the New York Times and Washington Post? Good to see inaccuracy is an equal-opportunity kind of thing...
21 posted on 08/26/2003 9:59:13 AM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: MizSterious
Yeah, that would be a fair analysis.

They're just a prone to wishful thinking, blindly accepting anything that suits their agenda, and abject close-mindedness as the most doctrinaire, politically correct, smarmily self-righteous liberal.
22 posted on 08/26/2003 10:00:58 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine; hchutch; Poohbah; Dane; ArneFufkin; rdb3
Art Bell/JBS/Illuminati/KingofLichtenstein/ShadowGovernment/NWO ping


23 posted on 08/26/2003 10:01:21 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: quidnunc
Would those be the self-same Chicom troops that were in the Sudan? According to DEBKA...???
24 posted on 08/26/2003 10:03:44 AM PDT by donozark
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
We had a local cable access program in which a local guy would spend an hour reading The New American. He'd read a paragraph, then re...peat...it...slow...ly...in...case...we...didn't...under....stand...it....

And then he'd move on to the next paragraph.

He had a sidekick named Bob. Bob was hyperactive. When Bob would read a paragaph from The New American, he'dreaditfast then explainitrealfast in kind of a gerbil-chattering sort of way.

The day they had on William Norman Grigg as a guest, I thought Bob would explode from excitement.

It's too bad the show isn't on anymore. Gosh, I miss it.

25 posted on 08/26/2003 10:05:10 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: Ernie.cal
JBS hates the United Nations. Therefore, they ain't all bad...
26 posted on 08/26/2003 10:05:27 AM PDT by donozark
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To: donozark
donozark wrote: Would those be the self-same Chicom troops that were in the Sudan? According to DEBKA...???

Yes, and Debka once also reported them crossing over into northern Afghanistan.

Those guys really get around.

27 posted on 08/26/2003 10:09:39 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Ernie.cal
Are the NY Times., Wash Post or the latest dnc rax sheet read from a teleprompter at ABCNNBCBS credible either?
28 posted on 08/26/2003 10:10:27 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Wonder what the subject of that pic is using as an FR nickname?
29 posted on 08/26/2003 10:10:39 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (This is the fault of outsourcing, offshoring, immigration and PC. We're all doomed.)
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To: quidnunc
I guess our money is better served by sending it the RP?
30 posted on 08/26/2003 10:12:20 AM PDT by Stew Padasso (pro-rock.com - bsnn.net - libertyteeth.com - BFD - Puff Puff Ping)
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To: BlackElk
Thanks for injecting some non-biased facts about the JBS.
Have read much of their stuff, some I've found to be a little whacky, and some of it is right on - like their early rail against the UN, and the Commusnist under-pinnings of the Civil-rights movement.
Ann Coulter's "Treason" actually covers a lot of the JBS beliefs about Communist infiltration of the State Dept, stuff she is being lauded for, but JBS'ers were branded as nuts for saying.
It's easy for some of these Freepers to just parrot things that they have heard, rather than do any serious research - this is what the Demoncrats do, come-on we're better than that.......
31 posted on 08/26/2003 10:15:00 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is a war room".)
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To: Stew Padasso
Stew Padasso wrote: I guess our money is better served by sending it the RP?

If RP=Republican Party then yes, it is immeasureably better to send it to the GOP.

32 posted on 08/26/2003 10:17:20 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: rrrod
"...a bunch of catholic and jew hating whackos!"

That's a mighty broad brush you're painting with. For the better part of the last 35 years the local leader of the JBS in my area is or was an Orthodox Jew. There are many Blacks within the JBS. You're believing the left wing press.

33 posted on 08/26/2003 10:20:40 AM PDT by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: quidnunc
If you are into pissing away money, they are as about as reliable and trustworthy as the JBS.
34 posted on 08/26/2003 10:21:22 AM PDT by Stew Padasso (pro-rock.com - bsnn.net - libertyteeth.com - BFD - Puff Puff Ping)
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To: sauropod; goldilucky
"...when I read the New American, it contains information that I have seen elsewhere from independent sources."

I subscribed to "The New American" for a few years and found it to be quite informative.

35 posted on 08/26/2003 10:24:04 AM PDT by sultan88 ("He didn’t see the station wagon car, the skunk got squashed and there you are ")
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To: quidnunc
I don't disagree that they don't have an agenda of their own. Do not mistake me, I view all such organizations and things political with a wary eye. All I have to do is ask myself "What would things be like if these guys were in charge?". Most such individuals and organizations, left, right and most in between fail this test very quickly.

As do you, from your prejudicial and insulting tone.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

36 posted on 08/26/2003 10:26:41 AM PDT by Joe Brower ("Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe." - H.G. Wells)
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To: Ernie.cal
I'm shocked!

All these years I thought it was The Birch John Society.

37 posted on 08/26/2003 10:34:22 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: Joe Brower; sauropod
I agree with you both.

During our attempts to boot Clinton from office, I had occasion to meet the local JBS chapter head, and he was a perfect pleasant guy- oddly, his first name is Clinton!

38 posted on 08/26/2003 10:42:25 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: sultan88
I also subscribe to The New American as it is the most informative magazine that actually educates me on important issues like the communist United Nations.

As for the John Birch Society, I salute the founder all the way.
39 posted on 08/26/2003 11:12:09 AM PDT by goldilucky
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To: sultan88
I also subscribe to The New American as it is the most informative magazine that actually educates me on important issues like the communist United Nations.

As for the John Birch Society, I salute the founder all the way.
40 posted on 08/26/2003 11:12:51 AM PDT by goldilucky
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