New York’s empire is shrinking

Press Republican ^ | 8/25/03 | Matt Smith

[PBRSTREETGANG]

To no one’s surprise, those fleeing New York cite high taxes, the high cost of living and the lack of good-paying jobs.

That'll do it!

[Joe Brower]

Insanely high real estate taxes are my my relatives who live in the Catskills are most disenchanted. The rates are sky-high, and none of it stays in their area -- it all goes to feed the socialist hive called New York City.

[.cnI redruM]

New York remains a high-tax, high regulation state. Anyone with a functioning brain leaves this type of state. If it costs too much to live, people have to leave.

[Fraulein]

BTTT

[volchef]

They're all fleeing NY due to high taxes and moving here to South Florida where they routinely vote for the same failed economic policies they say they're trying to get away from. Idiots.

[KellyAdmirer]

A life-long New Yorker, I left it a couple years ago for the reasons in the article among other things (Hillary contributed, too), though I still maintain a place there. It has a lot of good points, but not if you want a good quality of life. Upstate? It is gradually turning into a wildlife preserve.

[publius1]

You've got a lagging economy, a command-and-control government given to nanny legislation, and a tax system that soaks you for everything--as much as 25% of the utility bill, for example, is taxes. At some point common sense says, "I've got no opportunities, the government tells me what to do, and then taxes it all, what the hell am I doing here?"

How odd is this government? Recently a developer said he wanted to invest $2.3 billion Upstate. In return, he asked that the State agree that certain tax credits for which he would be eligible under current law not be tampered with, that is, that he be treated exactly as the law provides. So far, the State has refused to make that pledge--obviously because it would limit its options in the future!

Command and control; or, to put it another way: own it, control it, or destroy it, that's the governing philosophy.

[lelio]

Meanwhile, in Buffalo, the state?s second-largest city, the population plunged by 10.8 percent.

Yowzers!

[goldylight]

They think upstates bad, they should try living on LI

[lelio]

Recently a developer said he wanted to invest $2.3 billion Upstate...

Did he forget to give a 1% tithe to Hillary? Worked for TATA the Indian offshoring company (which actually will take away jobs) to setup shop in Buffalo. When will the peons wake up that the government doesn't really like them that much?

[SkyPilot]

The only businesses in Syracuse that seemed to be thriving when I last visited there were: funeral homes and private adult care centers.

If the officials could figure out a way to tax each camp or home on Skaneatles and Otisco lake $15,000,000 each---they would do it.

[.cnI redruM]

Yeah, but they have Cynthia McKinney and the rest of us don't. Oops, that's actually a bad thing, a very bad thing. Not only is their population in decline, but so is the state's average IQ.

[1Old Pro]

Liberal Democrats and Left leaning Republicans run the state. Is it any wonder it is deteriorating?? When will people learn.

[mewzilla]

Hmmmm...Rochester, Syracuse and Buffalo. The blue bits of the state. If the red bits could just secede...

[RJL]

Apparently liberals didn’t learn from their debacle in the big cities and they are now busy exporting failure to the big states.

[q_an_a]

i thought the Klintons moved to NY to fix all the employment problems. What happpened, did they forget how the magic they created in the WH was not something they did but happened in spite of the,?

[Woodman]

Bu!! real estate taxes are set and collected by the local government, not a penny of that money goes to NYC. NYC BTW has much lower real estate taxes than LI, NJ or Upstate, locals I have talked to from those areas are proud of their high taxes which keep the "wrong" people from moving to their area.

[Alberta's Child]

Something doesn't sound right about that post. I believe real estate taxes in New York are assessed at the municipal and county levels, not at the state level. I don't doubt that the real estate taxes are high, but I don't think it's for the reason you mentioned.

In fact, upstate New York is a "recipient" region when it comes to state taxes -- it pays less in state taxes than it receives in state spending. So you can imagine how high the tax burden must be in New York City.

[wayoverontheright]

To no one’s surprise, those fleeing New York cite high taxes, the high cost of living and the lack of good-paying jobs.

Those same high taxes make business feel unwelcome, which creates the lack of good-paying jobs, and of course, the high cost of living.