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Senators urge Perry to back off - Poll: 62% of Texans opposed to 'RATS bolting to New Mexico
The Dallas Morning News ^ | August 26, 2003 | By GROMER JEFFERS JR. / The Dallas Morning News

Posted on 08/26/2003 3:38:00 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Senators urge Perry to back off

No more special sessions, Albuquerque exiles tell governor

10:09 PM CDT on Monday, August 25, 2003

By GROMER JEFFERS JR. / The Dallas Morning News

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. – As the second special legislative session for congressional redistricting neared its end Tuesday, the 11 Democratic senators self-exiled in Albuquerque urged Gov. Rick Perry not to call lawmakers back for more.

"Stand down from this pointless redistricting," said Leticia Van de Putte, chairwoman of the Senate Democratic Caucus. "Stop wasting tax dollars in your attempt to steal, through partisan redistricting, what you could not accomplish in legitimate elections."

Mr. Perry has not said when he would call another special session.

SURVEY SNAPSHOT
In a new poll, Texans were asked whether the Legislature should redraw congressional districts:
Yes 40%
No 46%
Don't know 14%

... and whether they agree or disagree with the Democrats' decision to leave the state to block redistricting:
Agree 29%
Disagree 62%
Neutral 3%
Don't know 6%

"The governor will announce when the next session will be at the appropriate time," spokeswoman Kathy Walt said.

The Democrats expect to press their case to stop redistricting Wednesday in U.S. District Court in Laredo, where they've filed suit.

The sides are at odds on Republican attempts to increase their numbers within the state's congressional delegation. Democrats enjoy a 17-15 edge, although Republicans control both houses of the Legislature and the governor's mansion.

The latest posturing came as a new Texas Poll suggests that the public is divided over redistricting.

According to the poll, 46 percent of respondents didn't think that congressional maps should be redrawn, while 40 percent felt redistricting was a good idea.

The poll found that Texans overwhelmingly disagreed with the Democrats' decision bolt to New Mexico. Sixty-two percent disagreed with the action, while 29 percent agreed.

About 46 percent of respondents faulted Mr. Perry's decision to call a second special session, compared with 44 percent who supported it.

The poll, conducted by the Scripps Data Center, surveyed 1,000 Texans on Aug. 7-21. The margin of error was 3 percentage points, meaning the results may vary by that much either direction.

Although Democrats have talked tough about staying in Albuquerque "as long as it takes" to kill redistricting, the Senate Democratic Caucus has not decided whether to return for a third special session or continue the boycott.

Republicans have urged their colleagues, some of whom are ill, to come home and make their last stand on the Senate floor. Sen. Frank Madla of San Antonio was taken Monday to the hospital, where doctors said he was suffering from pneumonia. Mr. Madla, who also has a heart condition, returned to the Democrats' hotel later in the day.

"Since Day One, they have attempted to plant seeds of doubt in Texans' minds on whether we would hold together, how long we'd stay and when we'd return," Ms. Van de Putte said. "And since Day One, we have told you we would do whatever it took to defend Texans, especially minority and rural voters."

Dallas Democrat Royce West said the battle was far from over.

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Texas Talkback: Should the Legislature proceed with redistricting?
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Current Texas Congressional districts
House map, passed 7/29
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Special Session: Redistricting hearing schedule, summary, maps
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"We're probably at the beginning of the second quarter," he said. "This is long from being over with."

A primary obstacle to a return to Austin is Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst's decision to remove the Senate's traditional two-thirds rule for consideration of bills. Democrats have used the rule – requiring that 21 of 31 senators favor bringing up a bill before it can be considered – to avoid a vote on redistricting.

Removal of the two-thirds rule is the centerpiece of this week's court skirmishes.

In an example of the legal quicksand surrounding the standoff, lawyers argued for two hours Monday in state district court in Austin over the dismissal of a lawsuit that both sides agreed should be dismissed.

District Judge Darlene Byrne finally ended what she called the "ping pong" match and handed down the dismissal sought by both parties, leading both sides to declare they'd won a significant victory.

Democrats had sought to bar authorities from forcibly returning them to the Capitol and challenged Mr. Perry's authority to call a special session for redistricting. Republicans had countersued, asking for a court order to compel the senators' return. Ultimately, both sides agreed that the state judge should dismiss the case while each side pursues the matter on other fronts.

With that decision, attention will shift to Laredo. The Democratic senators hope that they can persuade a judge to empower a three-judge panel to determine whether the removal of the two-thirds rule violates the voting rights of minorities.

Also Monday, Democrats expressed concern that the U.S. Justice Department had pre-approved Mr. Dewhurst's plan to again remove the two-thirds rule if a third special session was called.

"I don't want to believe that," Mr. West said. "But if it is indeed true, we've sent a letter requesting that before they make a decision to give us an opportunity to have input into the process."

Justice Department officials did not return telephone calls Monday.

Mr. Dewhurst has suggested a cooling-off period, which could give the senators time to go home.

"We would return for a defined cooling-off period with assurances that there would be no dirty tricks," Mr. West said.

Mr. Perry called the second special session for redistricting immediately after the first ended in late July. Many felt it was a ploy to catch and lock the Democrats inside the Senate chambers.

Staff writers Pete Slover and Wayne Slater in Austin contributed to this report.

E-mail gjeffers@dallasnews.com


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/latestnews/stories/082603dntexredist.c11c5.html


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: democrats; newmexico; redistricting; republicans; texas
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Not familiar with this polling organization or how reliable they are ...

The latest posturing came as a new Texas Poll suggests that the public is divided over redistricting.

According to the poll, 46 percent of respondents didn't think that congressional maps should be redrawn, while 40 percent felt redistricting was a good idea.

The poll found that Texans overwhelmingly disagreed with the Democrats' decision bolt to New Mexico. Sixty-two percent disagreed with the action, while 29 percent agreed.

About 46 percent of respondents faulted Mr. Perry's decision to call a second special session, compared with 44 percent who supported it.

The poll, conducted by the Scripps Data Center, surveyed 1,000 Texans on Aug. 7-21. The margin of error was 3 percentage points, meaning the results may vary by that much either direction.


1 posted on 08/26/2003 3:38:00 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Dog Gone; deport; lowbridge; PetroniDE; Flyer; Ron H.
Only 29% of Texans agree with the 'RATS bolting. I think that is significant ...

2 posted on 08/26/2003 3:40:13 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: MeeknMing
They're not gaining much support at home. In fact their contempt for the will of the majority is LOSING them votes. Let em keep it up.
3 posted on 08/26/2003 3:48:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MeeknMing
bttt
4 posted on 08/26/2003 4:01:21 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: MeeknMing
Only 29% of Texans agree with the 'RATS bolting. I think that is significant ...

I think it probably represents the constituency of the Democrats in the Senate.

5 posted on 08/26/2003 4:15:19 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: MeeknMing
I find it rather interesting (NOT!) that the national media has pretty much ignored this story. Can you imagine the 7x24 bombardment from the NY Times, Washingtom Post et al. if it were Republicans pulling this kind of stunt?
6 posted on 08/26/2003 4:32:26 AM PDT by PogySailor
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To: MeeknMing
"Stand down from this pointless redistricting," said Leticia Van de Putte, chairwoman of the Senate Democratic Caucus. "Stop wasting tax dollars in your attempt to steal, through partisan redistricting, what you could not accomplish in legitimate elections."

Just for that disgusting display of ignorance and arrogance, Gov. Perry ought to call special sessions until the next election cycle.

7 posted on 08/26/2003 4:51:19 AM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste
If there were redistricting, the Democrats would be locked out of power in the House for a long time. Perhaps that's why Leticia Van Putte is acting as a shill for Nancy Pelosi. The stakes are high.
8 posted on 08/26/2003 4:55:32 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MeeknMing
ALSO from the same poll...

"At least until the respondents found out that redistricting was killed in the regular session in which case 47% supported the notion and 44% opposed."

9 posted on 08/26/2003 5:05:55 AM PDT by harpu
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To: MeeknMing
"Stop wasting tax dollars in your attempt to steal, through partisan redistricting, what you could not accomplish in legitimate elections."

Change the word "redistricting" to "recall" in the above
quote, and it is almost verbatim what Gray Davis has
been saying.
BJ Clinton must be advising the chicken D's, too.
10 posted on 08/26/2003 5:12:03 AM PDT by MamaLucci (May ALL democrats follow the Clinton's off a steep cliff, never to be heard from again.)
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To: MeeknMing
So when the Republicans draw the lines or redistricting it is "senseless partiasan redistricting" yet when a Rat politician or Rat judge does the same thing, it is a fair and thoughtful and non-political plan?

Yea, right.
11 posted on 08/26/2003 5:45:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: lafroste
I sure hope Perry stays strong. He's doing a great job --- it's got to be very tiring ---- he needs a lot of support.
12 posted on 08/26/2003 5:48:51 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: MeeknMing
Big time. Apparently, the truth is already out there.

Dems can't recast themselves.
13 posted on 08/26/2003 5:51:26 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: MeeknMing
The more they do this the more I believe they are hurting the Dem party.
14 posted on 08/26/2003 5:53:19 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: harpu
Good add-on. I thought I had read there was a little more twist to the poll than the DMN lead would lead us to believe.
15 posted on 08/26/2003 5:55:52 AM PDT by writmeister
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To: PogySailor
find it rather interesting (NOT!) that the national media has pretty much ignored this story. Can you imagine the 7x24 bombardment from the NY Times, Washingtom Post et al. if it were Republicans pulling this kind of stunt?

Now now...the media has to report on "important" things like Kobe, Lacy an whatever else will allow the networks to turn more lawyers into celebrities.

16 posted on 08/26/2003 5:56:56 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: PogySailor
The media, including Fox, only seem to care about California or New York. Anything else is irrelevant.
17 posted on 08/26/2003 6:01:40 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: optimistically_conservative
Yep. And to clarify my original statement, the significance is those
that oppose the Runaways vs those that approve ... 62% vs 29%.

That is MORE than a 2:1 ratio ...


18 posted on 08/26/2003 6:02:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: MamaLucci
Well, we know the DNC and moveon.org are raising money to support them.
19 posted on 08/26/2003 6:03:03 AM PDT by mathluv
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To: MamaLucci
Yep. I heard Davis the other day saying that. He quoted Florida,
the Kalifornia recall and the Texas redistricting in one breath ...

20 posted on 08/26/2003 6:07:06 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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