Special Metals contract rejected (Union Votes Down Contract, Co. Likely To File Ch 7 Within Days)

The Herald-Dispatch ^ | August 25, 2003 | Jim Ross

[Timesink]

HUNTINGTON -- Workers at the Special Metals Corp. nickel alloy plant in Huntington rejected a proposed contract offer Monday that their union leadership and company executives said was necessary to keep the plant open.

The vote, announced at 8:30 p.m. after a full day of voting, was 236 workers for the new contract and 303 against it.

[hchutch]

It's greedy CEOs, it's outsourcing, it's the illegals...

Am I missing any of the standard paleo-con cries?

[eleni121]

Your whole response is full of stereotypes about "paper pushers" and innuendoes about the "boards" and the management not taking cuts.

Is that what you learned in your years as a union steward - class envy?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

"Its the merchants" is the new paleo code word for those who use gentile baby blood to make matzoh....

[Texas_Dawg]

It's greedy CEOs, it's outsourcing, it's the illegals...

Oh, and you forgot the latest category... "Merchants".

At one time or another on FR, I have had not only job losses (I call them "firings") and home foreclosures blamed on greedy CEOs, outsourcing and illegals, but divorces, marital separations, inner-city drug-dealing and murder and even one guy's friend's suicide.

Man, those silly Mexicans are far more powerful than I ever thought.

[gaspar]

When I was going to University I worked as a machinist at a plant that hired some 90 people. The pay was terrific and paid my tuition, room, books, etc. Unfortunately, the workers went out on strike three years in a row. The company warned that if it occured again they would close their doors and return to Illinois. The workers struck, the business was closed.

Such things have happened thousands of times over the years, and It never ceases to amaze me when the American worker gleefully commits suicide.

[Texas_Dawg]

Such things have happened thousands of times over the years, and It never ceases to amaze me when the American worker gleefully commits suicide.

They don't run their own companies for good reason.

[jim_trent]

I don't think the local Union people think that far ahead. From my experience, the people who get elected to local Unions are the most radical people in the Union.

[hchutch]

Yep. You know, I think David Frum was right about the paleo-cons. The second paragraph is quite interesting, IMHO. It's why I have a lot of suspicion about the outcry over outsourcing.

"Francis advocated a politics of uninhibited racial nationalism — a politics devoted to the protection of the interests of what he called the 'Euro-American cultural core' of the American nation. He argued that the time had come for conservatives to jettison their old commitment to limited government: A 'nationalist ethic,' he wrote in 1991, 'may often require government action.'

"So, Chronicles advocated protectionism for American industry and restrictions on nonwhite immigration. It defended minimum-wage laws and attacked corporations that moved operations off-shore."
http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/frum031903.asp

[Texas_Dawg]

You know, I think David Frum was right about the paleo-cons.

Of course. It just took someone finally willing to take the heat and say it in a major forum. (And he took tons of heat from them.)

[Texas_Dawg]

"So, Chronicles advocated protectionism for American industry and restrictions on nonwhite immigration. It defended minimum-wage laws and attacked corporations that moved operations off-shore."

How many times have I seen on FR (and in real life) that when pushed hard enough on the issue, especially when presented with the economic facts of what they support, do these paleos eventually get so flustered or angry that the truth behind their "economic" proposals comes out? Too many times to count.

[Texas_Dawg]

"that these paleos...", I should say.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I frequently find myself trying to recollect the tune to the Horst Wessel when I see what passes as paleo "thought".

[Poohbah]

It's greedy CEOs, it's outsourcing, it's the illegals...

Am I missing any of the standard paleo-con cries?

You forgot "cosmopolites."

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Merchants....

[bert]

....Is that what you learned in your years as a union steward - class envy....

Of course not. He learned that a steward has the ultimate union job. He gets paid for not working at all while most of his associates get paid for not working just some of the time.

[jimt]

Bummer. We buy their products - a LOT of their products. We buy from their competitors, too, but it's a shame to see the company that invented Inconel go down.

When we've had to have cuts in our place everybody took it, from top to bottom. Wages came back to normal after about 9 months, and increased after that.

[SauronOfMordor]

Of course not. He learned that a steward has the ultimate union job. He gets paid for not working at all while most of his associates get paid for not working just some of the time.

Many years ago, I worked at a place that had a unionized computer operations dept. The shop steward was the dumbest and most incompetent guy in the crew. I think he took the steward position because it made him unfirable.

[rdb3]

I've past the point of even engaging them in debate. I know where I stand with them. Therefore, no need to even talk.

[dogbyte12]

"First thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers"--William Shakespeare.

Would you agree OneParticularHarbor?

[MonroeDNA]

I worked for Martin-Marietta, before it was renamed.

I got my little cubicle, and the flourescent light over the desk didn't work. I went to a vacant cubicle, pulled the light out, and changed my light.

My boss went balistic, and said that if the union caught wind, I would be fired.

Unions reward lazy freeloaders. Let each man stand or fall on their own contributions.

I am not surprised at all that the union voted themselves out of a job. They are too stupid to know that nobody owes them a job.