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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This year's highly publicized job losses in North Carolina manufacturing, including the Pillowtex bankruptcy, could mean trouble next year for President Bush in a region that was a stronghold in 2000.

Bush won more than 56 percent of the vote in both North Carolina and South Carolina in 2000. But his strong support of free trade has turned some against him in the South, where U.S. trade policies are blamed for the loss of jobs in textiles and other manufacturing sectors.

Andy Warlick, chief executive officer of Parkdale Mills in Gaston County, said he doubts he will repeat his 2000 vote for Bush next year.

"He made a lot of promises and he hasn't delivered on any of them," Warlick said. "I've had some firsthand experience of him sending down trade and commerce officials, but they're just photo ops. It's empty rhetoric."

Fred Reese, the president of Western N.C. Industries, an employers' association, said executives are beginning to raise their voices against Bush and are planning education and voter drives.

"We're seeing a new dynamic where the executives and employees are both beginning to see a real threat to their interests. You're going to see people who traditionally voted Republican switch over," Reese predicted.

The hard feelings were on display days after Pillowtex's July 30 bankruptcy filing, when Republican U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes walked into a Kannapolis auditorium to meet with former workers.

"Thanks for sending the jobs overseas, Robin!" shouted Brenda Miller, a longtime worker at the textile giant's Salisbury plant.

In December 2001 Hayes -- who is an heir to the Cannon family textile fortune -- cast the tie-breaking vote to give Bush the authority to negotiate "fast-track" trade agreements, trade treaties that Congress must vote up or down with no amendments.

At the time, Hayes said he won promises from the Bush administration that it would more strictly enforce existing trade agreements and pressure foreign countries to open their markets to U.S. textiles.

"Are we pleased with the way they responded? Absolutely," Hayes said. "Are we satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not."

Jobs in many industries have fled overseas since 1993, when Congress passed the Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. About half the textile and apparel jobs that existed in 1994 are gone.

Since Bush took office in January 2001, it is estimated North Carolina and South Carolina have lost more than 180,000 manufacturing jobs.

And even more textile jobs could be out the door once quotas on Chinese imports expire at the end of next year.

Republican U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger voted for NAFTA and fast-track, and has seen his 10th District lose nearly 40,000 jobs, primarily in the textile and furniture industries.

"Certainly, there's a political cost to any controversial vote no matter which side you take," he said. "People are casting stones, but we're trying to pick them up and build something."

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards voted against fast-track in 2002 after voting for an earlier version. In 2000 he voted for permanent normal trade relations with China.

Recently, though, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, Edwards has attacked Bush's trade policies and called for fairer trade measures.

Robert Neal, vice president of the local chapter of the Pillowtex workers' union, said Hayes has worked to try to ease the impact of job losses in his district.

"Though he (Hayes) voted for fast-track, he is really concerned about the workers and their conditions in the state of North Carolina," Neal said.

Not everyone feels that way.

Reese is organizing 1,500 manufacturing companies across North Carolina in an effort to leverage what he calls a new voting bloc.

In South Carolina, voter drives are planned for the first time at Milliken & Co., which has about 30 plants in the state. Mount Vernon Mills of Greenville, S.C., is forming a political action committee.

The company's president Roger Chastain, a one-time Bush voter, doesn't expect to support the president or Jim DeMint, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Ernest Hollings.

"We're basically liquidating our whole middle class, polarizing people on the two extremes, have and have-nots," Chastain said of the manufacturing job losses. "We'll be a Third World country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: economy; fasttrack; jobs; manufacturing; nafta; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pillotex; treetrade
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To: SGCOS
LOL! I won't ask...
781 posted on 08/26/2003 1:01:28 PM PDT by snopercod (Our research showed that good grammar is now used only half as much as it was 10 years ago.)
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To: StolarStorm
That's why I'm convinced that Texas_Dawg isn't for real.

I also never said anything even close to that.

782 posted on 08/26/2003 1:01:33 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: citizen
I've had my fill of big-spending, RINO-politics, migrant-loving Bush.

My sentiments exactly. I'm also writing in the name of Tom Tancredo for President.

783 posted on 08/26/2003 1:02:28 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen
RE-YAWN.

Keep yawning but you've said repeatedly you will be voting against Bush in 2004.

784 posted on 08/26/2003 1:02:47 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
the business owners have no duty to provide sinecures for white underachievers who just happened to be born here.

Clearly this is true but why did you specify white? Doesn't it apply to everyone everywhere?

You can blast your trumpet regarding sovereignty and European culture all you want, but neither of those give you or your race mates the legal ability to sap the lifeblood out of a business.

Now i have posted my plan numerous times and a consensus seems to be building behind it here on Free Republic can you tell me one element fo my plan that in any way infringes on business so that it is sapping the life blood from them.

I am for getting the government out of uneccessary regulation using law enforcement, tax cuts and tariffs to improve the investment climate in the USA. i want to endan internationalist wealth transfer program sold as Free Trade when it contradicts adam Smith's definitions of Free trade.

Here again is the plan.

In no particular order of importance.

1. Get rid of government subsidies for offshore investment of US companies. OPIC is the first such program which should go but support of World Bank programs that subsidize the outflow of Capital would be another.

2. Use tariffs on those nations which are engaged in unfair trade practices such as currency manipulation (China and India for example), those nations which refuse to open their markets to US products (China for example with its 50% tariffs on US consumer goods and non tariff barriers), those nations that subsidize competition to American Industry (airbus for example) and those nations which have slave conditions for their workers.

3. Use tariffs and other means to prevent the relocation of jobs offshore that are essential to the national defense. If necessary take control of the company seeking to export vital technology or industry by means of eminent domain (No I do not like this last option and I will only defend its use as an absolute last resort like say in the case of rare earth magnets essential to smart bomb technology). Provide a hardened, widely distributed infrastructure to supply all that is needed for our military units and civil defense that can be continued to be deployed in the event of any military attack.

4. An immediate end to guest worker programs. If people wish to come to the USA to work and make a life let them immigrate according to the rules.

5 Provide economic development zones where the corporate income tax is zero for operations within these zones. In order to operate in this zone a company must agree to only purchase American components if available and employ only American citizens or legal immigrants in these operations. These economic development zones shall be eventually be expanded to include every bit of every state once the benefits are shown I would like them to be totally implemented immediately but I realize4 that may be overreaching. It must be stated for clarification that simply being in the geographic area of the zones does will not subject any company to any new mandatory regulation. Everything is voluntary for getting the exclusion from corporate taxation. The profit attributable to direct imports is subject to the same rules that exist everywhere else in this nation for corporate taxation. Only free from such taxation is the profit attributable to American content and any American improvement. In short no new mandatory regulation will be a part of this. It is my opinion that there will not be a lack of companies seeking this tax relief. And no the regulation implied is absolutely minimal in order to get this through.

6. Scale back unnecessary regulation including the tort system. Institute a cap on punitive damages, limits on class action suits, and limits on liability to the actual percentage of liability with no plaintiff able to collect if said plaintiff was involved in the commission of a felony at the time of the alleged tort or was more than 49% negligent in the alleged tort. Note that the loser in a frivolous lawsuit shall pay the attorney fees of the winner. There are many other regulatory structures that also need to be included that need to be included such as repealing the Family leave mandate, getting rid of OSHA etc.

7. Increase the domestic content in purchases by the Department of defense and give absolute preference in non-domestic content to proven allies of the USA over say the French or Germans. The only reason any content for DOD purchase may come from non US allies is that content is not available elsewhere and is essential.

8. Do not allow expense involved in moving operations overseas to be included in business expenses under the IRS code.

9. Prosecute for perjury anyone who has made a false statement in order to employ an H1B or L1 visa worker. I will be lenient on the actual perjurer if he/she was ordered to make this false statement and he/she provides testimony to aid in the conviction of the person ordering the perjury. Just because a person is a CEO does not give them a pass on criminal behavior.

10. Prosecute anyone who orders the transfer of vital defense technology or funds a R&D project that could be of use to our military overseas except to strong allies of the USA. Make the necessary enhancements to our espionage laws so that continued support or funding of any R&D in a nation whose government has threatened the USA is guilty of espionage. The UK and Australia come to mind as meeting these criteria for being eligible for transfer of technology first. There will be other nations and a gradation of what can be transferred to which specific nation. Under no circumstances may technology be transferred to any nation whose government has threatened the USA within five years without a complete change of government or specific exemption from Congress and the administration.

11. Deport all illegal aliens immediately and take measures that prevent the entry of any more illegal aliens. Fine all companies knowingly employing illegal aliens Criminal sanctions should be imposed on anyone helping an illegal alien stay in the USA in violation of our laws.

12. Decrease the punishing levels of taxation on companies and eliminate the double taxation on corporate dividends. See effects of item 5 for how minimal this will be if item 5 covers the entire USA. Eliminate all IRS provisions that inhibit free use of independent contractors by businesses for example section 1706.

13. Eliminate the minimum wage so that the worker can be paid based on productivity. Overtime compensation will remain the same but instead of 150% of the "wage" the worker would receive 150% of the production pay. If one through 13 are enacted # 14 becomes an irrelevancy as no one will be working for that low a wage.

Now since I started posting this plan another idea has come up that in my opinion is a very good policy that stands on its own. Now I give credit to Jim Gibson and Freeper Ed_in_NJ for coming up with the idea, separately to the best of my knowledge. However I can be corrected on that. The tariff phrasing is from Jim Gibson.

“I suggest that the US Customs Department charge a $1,000-per-container inspection fee on every container entering the United States. This fee would be used to completely fund the cost of inspections. If we assumed that a four-man team could fully inspect two containers a day or about 500 per year, it would require 48,000 inspectors. Allowing for at least 2,000 support personnel, we would need at least 50,000 workers. Because these workers would require high intelligence and skill levels they should earn at least $30 per hour. At 40-hour weeks plus benefits, I estimate the cost per worker to be over $75,000 per year, all paid by the foreign manufacturers. Even so, this would still leave over $2.25 billion to cover all other costs. Any revenue not used would be used to compensate American workers displaced by foreign imports. “

I urge and encourage everyone who agrees with this plan and or the terror tariff idea to communicate this to every politician you can think of.

785 posted on 08/26/2003 1:03:51 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Texas_Dawg
See post #783.
786 posted on 08/26/2003 1:03:54 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: harpseal
I am for removal of command elements from the American economy whereever they are sourced.

Except for when you want to command someone to pay more for something...

787 posted on 08/26/2003 1:04:04 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: janetgreen
I've had my fill of big-spending, RINO-politics, migrant-loving Bush.

I agree.
788 posted on 08/26/2003 1:04:31 PM PDT by scottlang
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To: janetgreen
"My sentiments exactly. I'm also writing in the name of Tom Tancredo for President."

If I were you I would save time and effort and just write in Ross Perot. I mean all of us who did in 92 proved how vaulable it all was!

789 posted on 08/26/2003 1:04:49 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: janetgreen
See post #783.

See post #784.

790 posted on 08/26/2003 1:04:57 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: Mad Dawgg
I note my plan did not get a mention from you.
791 posted on 08/26/2003 1:05:51 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: scottlang; All
I've had my fill of big-spending, RINO-politics, migrant-loving Bush.

Don't forget "Merchant"-loving as well.

792 posted on 08/26/2003 1:05:53 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: harpseal; All
I note my plan did not get a mention from you.

Your plan gets 5 proposals longer every day.

793 posted on 08/26/2003 1:06:59 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

I dont support restricting the amount of money CEOs make, but what I support along with most people who debate in these threads is fair trade. If a country wont float its currency, use tariffs, if a country has tariffs against US goods and services, then have similar tariffs against them. Its a two way street.

I will be the first to agree that there needs to be Tort reform and reform in enviromental laws, but guess what, its a GOP congress they are doing nothing on these fronts.

That said, I know many Neo-Conservatives do not like to hear this, but the US is not a every man for themselves society, never has been and never will be. If you support companies moving to China as fast as they can, again, there will be severe rammifications on society and politics at home.
794 posted on 08/26/2003 1:08:24 PM PDT by JNB
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To: harpseal
"I note my plan did not get a mention from you."

Uh Huh, and your point would be...?

795 posted on 08/26/2003 1:08:37 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: JNB
Well if you do a search on the Uraguay(sp?) Round tariff ageements you will see a frank admission by those who set upthe curremnt tarde structure taht is a wealth transfer program from America and to a lesser extent other wealthy nations to poor nations. I had a link a couple days ago but today is not a good day for links for me.
796 posted on 08/26/2003 1:10:12 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Say what you will, but I will NEVER again vote for the "lesser of two evils" like I did in 2000. Bush fooled many Americans (including me) into believing that he was a conservative. HE LIED.
797 posted on 08/26/2003 1:10:14 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen; ArneFufkin
Yeah, right.

At least the other Brigadiers had enough sense to register new screen names after 2000.

You didn't. And you're on record as supporting Buchanan in 2000.

Nice try.
798 posted on 08/26/2003 1:12:06 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: janetgreen
While in no way I will vote for a Democrat, Bush does not have my vote at this point. Just because somone is a Republican does not mean they are a conservative. Right now the economic numbers have been dramatically padded by a record amount of re-fis brought on by artifically low intrest rates, due to Asian countries buying US tresuries non stop, and since the 10 year tresury finally stopping its 3 year decline in mid June, the re-fi money is going to dry up by the end of this year.
799 posted on 08/26/2003 1:14:09 PM PDT by JNB
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To: JNB
"If you support companies moving to China as fast as they can, again, there will be severe rammifications on society and politics at home."

I am a realist. My extensive dealings with folks who have an addiction problem prepares me well for the matter at hand.

As in addictive behavior, government will not truly change until it hits rock bottom. This ship has sailed my friend and we can only hope to lessen the devastation of liberalism. Yet, the majority of thought on this thread is more of the same and tariffs will just cause more problems right now for a lot of businesses still hanging on in America.

800 posted on 08/26/2003 1:15:51 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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