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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This year's highly publicized job losses in North Carolina manufacturing, including the Pillowtex bankruptcy, could mean trouble next year for President Bush in a region that was a stronghold in 2000.

Bush won more than 56 percent of the vote in both North Carolina and South Carolina in 2000. But his strong support of free trade has turned some against him in the South, where U.S. trade policies are blamed for the loss of jobs in textiles and other manufacturing sectors.

Andy Warlick, chief executive officer of Parkdale Mills in Gaston County, said he doubts he will repeat his 2000 vote for Bush next year.

"He made a lot of promises and he hasn't delivered on any of them," Warlick said. "I've had some firsthand experience of him sending down trade and commerce officials, but they're just photo ops. It's empty rhetoric."

Fred Reese, the president of Western N.C. Industries, an employers' association, said executives are beginning to raise their voices against Bush and are planning education and voter drives.

"We're seeing a new dynamic where the executives and employees are both beginning to see a real threat to their interests. You're going to see people who traditionally voted Republican switch over," Reese predicted.

The hard feelings were on display days after Pillowtex's July 30 bankruptcy filing, when Republican U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes walked into a Kannapolis auditorium to meet with former workers.

"Thanks for sending the jobs overseas, Robin!" shouted Brenda Miller, a longtime worker at the textile giant's Salisbury plant.

In December 2001 Hayes -- who is an heir to the Cannon family textile fortune -- cast the tie-breaking vote to give Bush the authority to negotiate "fast-track" trade agreements, trade treaties that Congress must vote up or down with no amendments.

At the time, Hayes said he won promises from the Bush administration that it would more strictly enforce existing trade agreements and pressure foreign countries to open their markets to U.S. textiles.

"Are we pleased with the way they responded? Absolutely," Hayes said. "Are we satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not."

Jobs in many industries have fled overseas since 1993, when Congress passed the Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. About half the textile and apparel jobs that existed in 1994 are gone.

Since Bush took office in January 2001, it is estimated North Carolina and South Carolina have lost more than 180,000 manufacturing jobs.

And even more textile jobs could be out the door once quotas on Chinese imports expire at the end of next year.

Republican U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger voted for NAFTA and fast-track, and has seen his 10th District lose nearly 40,000 jobs, primarily in the textile and furniture industries.

"Certainly, there's a political cost to any controversial vote no matter which side you take," he said. "People are casting stones, but we're trying to pick them up and build something."

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards voted against fast-track in 2002 after voting for an earlier version. In 2000 he voted for permanent normal trade relations with China.

Recently, though, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, Edwards has attacked Bush's trade policies and called for fairer trade measures.

Robert Neal, vice president of the local chapter of the Pillowtex workers' union, said Hayes has worked to try to ease the impact of job losses in his district.

"Though he (Hayes) voted for fast-track, he is really concerned about the workers and their conditions in the state of North Carolina," Neal said.

Not everyone feels that way.

Reese is organizing 1,500 manufacturing companies across North Carolina in an effort to leverage what he calls a new voting bloc.

In South Carolina, voter drives are planned for the first time at Milliken & Co., which has about 30 plants in the state. Mount Vernon Mills of Greenville, S.C., is forming a political action committee.

The company's president Roger Chastain, a one-time Bush voter, doesn't expect to support the president or Jim DeMint, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Ernest Hollings.

"We're basically liquidating our whole middle class, polarizing people on the two extremes, have and have-nots," Chastain said of the manufacturing job losses. "We'll be a Third World country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: economy; fasttrack; jobs; manufacturing; nafta; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pillotex; treetrade
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To: scottlang
I AM LOOKING FOR IT TO STOP GIVING AMERICAN JOBS TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEIR CITIZENS.

Let me know when it starts doing this and I'll be against it too.

701 posted on 08/26/2003 11:37:38 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: scottlang
I am not looking for the government to give me a job. I AM LOOKING FOR IT TO STOP GIVING AMERICAN JOBS TO OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEIR CITIZENS

What stops you from giving yourself a job. Yes it is hard to do with the high taxes and regulations manadted from the federal, state, and local governments.

And you even make it harder for yourself, with your screeching for tariffs and more regulations.

JMO, but you have an animus against self-employment.

702 posted on 08/26/2003 11:39:25 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Lael
I saw Dean perfecting his attack before a small group on C-SPAN...trotted out Bush's assurance to the Indian Government that NOTHING will be done to reign in "OUTSOURCING".

When it hits, it will be a Lightning Bolt!!!

The real tragedy is not that they won't see it coming. It's that they won't even recognize it when they have been quick fried to the spot...

703 posted on 08/26/2003 11:39:50 AM PDT by null and void
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To: Texas_Dawg; scottlang; All
701+ and counting...

Bushco...Big Trouble...BIG TIME!!!

704 posted on 08/26/2003 11:40:52 AM PDT by Lael (It is time to make "OUTSOURCING" the litmus test!!)
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To: null and void; All
The real tragedy is not that they won't see it coming. It's that they won't even recognize it when they have been quick fried to the spot...

All you Bush-hating anti-capitalist trolls on here keep making this prediction and I keep offering to bet you anything you want on it yet none of you will take me up on it. You don't sound so sure of yourselves. Why not?

705 posted on 08/26/2003 11:42:00 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: null and void; harpseal
The whole argument, ongoing on FR for months, is over 1) the definition of "free" trade--that is, the interference of various domestic Gummints with business, which is not matched by various foreign Gummints; and 2) the definition of 'providing for the general welfare,' found in the Declaration.

Aside from the dedicated Libertarians and the dedicated Socialists, the middle seems to understand the arguments and the consequences. Harpseal has a good handle on it.
706 posted on 08/26/2003 11:42:08 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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To: Lael
So bet me on it. Whatever you want. $10? $100? $1,000? You name it.
707 posted on 08/26/2003 11:42:34 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: luckystarmom
*sigh*

Some people* just can't see a flood coming no matter how many raindrops fall...

708 posted on 08/26/2003 11:43:04 AM PDT by null and void (*I'm not naming names, he doesn't know who he is...)
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To: null and void
True Bush will have to wake up and at least seen to care soon if he wants a second term.
709 posted on 08/26/2003 11:43:04 AM PDT by scottlang
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To: Lael
Lael, when a 700 post thread involves the same 20 active participants, that signals no groundswell.
710 posted on 08/26/2003 11:43:39 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: harpseal
"Now perhaps you could gain an economic advantage by offering to do this job for free that is up to yoru and of course the exporter and importer."

Back in the late 80's I made a deal with a local "businessman", a very successful businessman I might add. The deal was I would work for him in the evenings each day of the workweek and my financial compensation would be nothing.

That is right absolutely no money whatsoever. All I wanted was his knowledge. I did errands and paperwork, I even helped unload cargo. I was allowed to ask questions and I was given detailed information on how this businessman made money.

Working for nothing was the best Money I ever made in my life!

711 posted on 08/26/2003 11:44:49 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: scottlang; null and void; Lael
True Bush will have to wake up and at least seen to care soon if he wants a second term.

Bet me on it. Please. Put your money where your mouth is.

712 posted on 08/26/2003 11:44:49 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: null and void
And Dean won't do anything but extend current programs. That ofcourse, will lead to a worsening of the situation. The way will then be paved for programs and movements such as broader earned income tax credits, negative income taxes guaranteeing a minimum income, federal health insurance, etc.
713 posted on 08/26/2003 11:45:07 AM PDT by riri
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To: luckystarmom

This is a repost. THis is the median family income over the last 40+ years

http://www.usc.edu/schools/sppd/research/casden/research/data_folder/us_fainco.pdf

And this is the median price of a home over the last 40 years

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/cenc25/c25m01

The family income to price of home ratio was 2.75 in 63, 3.05 in 85 and it is 3.6 today, all the while the percentage of familes with both parents working has increased. Again this thread shows the Neo-Cons are a clueless bunch, and they are self destructing before our eyes in this thread.
714 posted on 08/26/2003 11:46:26 AM PDT by JNB
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To: riri
I think it will be worse with the dems. That's why I want the republicans to do something about it. I don't want the dems in office because all they do is make everything worse.

However, if the repubilcans don't do anything then a dem could be elected. I don't think in 2004, but I do think it could happen in 2008. I think that person could be Hitlery, and that is a very scary prospect.
715 posted on 08/26/2003 11:47:31 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: ArneFufkin; Lael
You mean Republican, Arne.

Let Lael and those at the Dean headquarters have their little fantasy.

716 posted on 08/26/2003 11:47:35 AM PDT by Dane
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To: riri; All
It's nice to know that none of y'all truly seem to think Bush will lose. That's good. Neither do I.
717 posted on 08/26/2003 11:48:00 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (We must always keep FR pure and Merchant-rein.)
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To: dfrussell
Everyone's for stiffing the rich guys... until they find out that they're someone else's "rich guy" :)

Saddly, that doesn't happen until AFTER the election...

718 posted on 08/26/2003 11:49:09 AM PDT by null and void (At least I can be grateful that at this point I'm no-one's "rich guy"...)
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To: ninenot

To be fair, the Libertarians are at least consistent. Libertarians are are against corporate welfare, the FED and currency and economic minipulations that Neo-Conservatives support. The Libertarians are also honestly for the smallest govrenment possible, unlike Neo-Conservatives. i Do not agree with many of the Libertarian positions, but they are consistent at least.
719 posted on 08/26/2003 11:50:02 AM PDT by JNB
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To: Mad Dawgg
And I utterly support your Freedom to do so but legally you were not an employee becuase were you an employee you would have been subject to the minimum wage law. I would use this as an argument to support point 13 but I am afraid most would not sign on to that.
720 posted on 08/26/2003 11:51:27 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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