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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This year's highly publicized job losses in North Carolina manufacturing, including the Pillowtex bankruptcy, could mean trouble next year for President Bush in a region that was a stronghold in 2000.

Bush won more than 56 percent of the vote in both North Carolina and South Carolina in 2000. But his strong support of free trade has turned some against him in the South, where U.S. trade policies are blamed for the loss of jobs in textiles and other manufacturing sectors.

Andy Warlick, chief executive officer of Parkdale Mills in Gaston County, said he doubts he will repeat his 2000 vote for Bush next year.

"He made a lot of promises and he hasn't delivered on any of them," Warlick said. "I've had some firsthand experience of him sending down trade and commerce officials, but they're just photo ops. It's empty rhetoric."

Fred Reese, the president of Western N.C. Industries, an employers' association, said executives are beginning to raise their voices against Bush and are planning education and voter drives.

"We're seeing a new dynamic where the executives and employees are both beginning to see a real threat to their interests. You're going to see people who traditionally voted Republican switch over," Reese predicted.

The hard feelings were on display days after Pillowtex's July 30 bankruptcy filing, when Republican U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes walked into a Kannapolis auditorium to meet with former workers.

"Thanks for sending the jobs overseas, Robin!" shouted Brenda Miller, a longtime worker at the textile giant's Salisbury plant.

In December 2001 Hayes -- who is an heir to the Cannon family textile fortune -- cast the tie-breaking vote to give Bush the authority to negotiate "fast-track" trade agreements, trade treaties that Congress must vote up or down with no amendments.

At the time, Hayes said he won promises from the Bush administration that it would more strictly enforce existing trade agreements and pressure foreign countries to open their markets to U.S. textiles.

"Are we pleased with the way they responded? Absolutely," Hayes said. "Are we satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not."

Jobs in many industries have fled overseas since 1993, when Congress passed the Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. About half the textile and apparel jobs that existed in 1994 are gone.

Since Bush took office in January 2001, it is estimated North Carolina and South Carolina have lost more than 180,000 manufacturing jobs.

And even more textile jobs could be out the door once quotas on Chinese imports expire at the end of next year.

Republican U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger voted for NAFTA and fast-track, and has seen his 10th District lose nearly 40,000 jobs, primarily in the textile and furniture industries.

"Certainly, there's a political cost to any controversial vote no matter which side you take," he said. "People are casting stones, but we're trying to pick them up and build something."

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards voted against fast-track in 2002 after voting for an earlier version. In 2000 he voted for permanent normal trade relations with China.

Recently, though, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, Edwards has attacked Bush's trade policies and called for fairer trade measures.

Robert Neal, vice president of the local chapter of the Pillowtex workers' union, said Hayes has worked to try to ease the impact of job losses in his district.

"Though he (Hayes) voted for fast-track, he is really concerned about the workers and their conditions in the state of North Carolina," Neal said.

Not everyone feels that way.

Reese is organizing 1,500 manufacturing companies across North Carolina in an effort to leverage what he calls a new voting bloc.

In South Carolina, voter drives are planned for the first time at Milliken & Co., which has about 30 plants in the state. Mount Vernon Mills of Greenville, S.C., is forming a political action committee.

The company's president Roger Chastain, a one-time Bush voter, doesn't expect to support the president or Jim DeMint, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Ernest Hollings.

"We're basically liquidating our whole middle class, polarizing people on the two extremes, have and have-nots," Chastain said of the manufacturing job losses. "We'll be a Third World country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: economy; fasttrack; jobs; manufacturing; nafta; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pillotex; treetrade
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To: FITZ
Do you honestly believe that an engineer or computer programmer should be washing balls at the golf course or working as a dishwasher in a restaurant?

If someone is going to go on the internet and complain about not having had a job in a year? Hell yes. Get a job. Do something in the meantime. How ridiculously wealthy are people in this country that they can choose not only to sit around and not do certain jobs while looking for better ones, but they can complain about it on their home computer as well? Amazing.

321 posted on 08/25/2003 7:34:53 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
Bro, I can swear on my life that if you ever see me unemployed, which I fully realize is absolutely possible and God could do it tomorrow should He choose... you will NEVER hear me blaming my unemployment on any President or asking for the federal government to do something like put tariffs on Americans to get me a new job. You know why? Because unlike you, I am a conservative.

As I have repeatedly stated tariffs are for the protection of the nation from government interference in the American market if you had actuually read Adam Smith and David Ricardo you would fully understand this. I owuld hope you would support tariffs on imports to America as sound policy based upon teh proven net benefits of tariffs in some situations not because of your personal unemployment.

Now I have asked you before and I am asking you again have you come accross any such net quantitaive analysis showing a net economic harm from a tariff? I would really appreciate the refernce. Does the fact that not even the Cato institute has such a net analysis lead you to any conclusions when clearly such a net analysis would butress the theory that tariffs are harmful a theory that is widely touted by them. I am starting to think that maybe I was wrong about my presumption that there were cases when a protective tariff caused a net harm to this nation. After all the result from supposing protective tariffs were usually bad for this nation should produce a plethora of such studies and tehy should be easy to find. The fact that they are not easy to find logically calls into question the theory that many protective tariff are in the net harmful to the USA. Think about it.

322 posted on 08/25/2003 7:35:22 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Dane
Oh, that's right, things got better under free trader, Ronald Reagan.

Did Reagan say that we should trade with the Soviet Union or China?
323 posted on 08/25/2003 7:35:24 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Dane
All I have to say is thank God, Ronald Reagan didn't have Pat Buchanan as an economic advisor.

Any wonder why the overwhelming majority of Reagan advisors and people in his administration have disowned the Buchanan Brigade as well?

324 posted on 08/25/2003 7:36:21 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: harpseal
Now I have asked you before and I am asking you again have you come accross any such net quantitaive analysis showing a net economic harm from a tariff?

I showed you one from 2002 and you said it was biased. Whatever. Not wasting my time trying to convince you that economic isolationism is a bad thing.

325 posted on 08/25/2003 7:38:58 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
I would love to see you try to pitch this "Return to the Economy of 1960" platform to people.

I think you believe that they still didn't have electricity in the 60s and that things were very primitive and backward. They weren't. I think most people would love to have a nice middle class average house they could get if they only had a high school diploma, a bunch of kids with a stay-at-home wife, a new car paid for in 2 years. A full health insurance policy with a low deductible, low property taxes etc

As for the 60's being primitive deprived times the only thing I can think of that I have in my home that they didn't have is a computer and the VCR.

326 posted on 08/25/2003 7:39:10 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: A. Pole
No not good for government to tell company what to pay. Market does that. Government can use tariff to slam any product not made in country or better made in specific country. That way you only control trade with those who not good trade with.
327 posted on 08/25/2003 7:39:47 PM PDT by RussianConservative (Hristos: the Light of the World)
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To: Texas_Dawg
All I have to say is thank God, Ronald Reagan didn't have Pat Buchanan as an economic advisor.

No, but he did have his sister as United States Treasurer.

328 posted on 08/25/2003 7:39:54 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: FITZ
Which of Clinton's economic policies (NAFTA, free trade,

Sorry, that was Reagan's. Give credit where credit is due.

329 posted on 08/25/2003 7:41:38 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Texas_Dawg
I have two jobs actually ---- but it's not just me that determines the health of this country --- and I am able to see that. Again --- it is what happens to a sizeable number of people, many people with falling wages, unemployment, permanently NAFTA displaced ---- a climbing welfare rate with very high government social spending. A health insurance crisis that Bush can only answer with a Nationalized (Marxist) plan.

It really doesn't matter if I get a pay raise tomorrow if 500 people in this town get a pink slip.

330 posted on 08/25/2003 7:42:33 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Mo1; null and void
If I recall much of the bust of jobs happened due to the Clinton Administration and their policies

Clear fact it was Clintin who implemented the Uruguay Round principles into our trade policies. Bush has not fully changed them. The current rumour going arround Demopcratic circles according to a relative who is very close to a DemocRAT senator is saying, "Hillary is the anti-Dean." In short the powers taht be ralize that with Dean maintaining a lead teh only figure who can unite the Democrat party is Hillary should it look like there is a good chance to win. She will run on a platform of government jobs and training programs along with public works to stimulate the economy. She will also supplement this by national health care. thsi she hopes will appeal to all the unemployed.

There are some fates that are worse than death living undr a Hillary clinton Presidency might well be one of them IMHO.

331 posted on 08/25/2003 7:42:36 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Texas_Dawg
you will NEVER hear me blaming my unemployment on any President or asking for the federal government to do something like put tariffs on Americans to get me a new job.

You might have noticed that I didn't either. I have commented that jobs are scarce, something you might have noticed if you gave so much as a popcorn fart about anyone else. I have observed that a typical voter might/would react to being jobless for way too long.

You know why? Because unlike you, I am a conservative.

If being a conservative means acting like you, I'm glad I'm NOT.

332 posted on 08/25/2003 7:44:24 PM PDT by null and void (<---- Card Carrying Capital "L" Libertarian. Flame away...)
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To: Gunslingr3
Excuse me the reality of Nafta was not what Ronald Wilson Reagan backed. he started the negotiations and teh American stand changed. what he was proposing included a tariff wall arround teh Mexico Canada USA zone untli Mexico was fully prosperous. what we git instead was a world trade regimine that was based on wealthtransfer from teh rich nation to the poor nations. i note the rich European nations had higher tariff walls than teh USA and tehy claimed to be not as rich.
333 posted on 08/25/2003 7:46:25 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: snopercod
To blame Bush for this insane. It was Clinton that put in NAFTA. This is an agenda driven story-- just reading it makes it seem like the Democrats are against free trade. The truth is the textile workers don't have anywhere to go. I want more American jobs, I want to protect our manufacturing base, but there is little that can be done. The world has moved and America has been designater an information economy. It is a shame, but it seems to be something that can't be undone.
334 posted on 08/25/2003 7:46:35 PM PDT by faithincowboys (Are we headed down hill like a snowball headed for Hell?)
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To: null and void
I have commented that jobs are scarce, something you might have noticed if you gave so much as a popcorn fart about anyone else.

It's all about pride, my friend. "Look at me... I care so much more for the little man than you..."

Really dumb, typical Democratic populism, and terrible economic policy.

335 posted on 08/25/2003 7:47:16 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Proudly posting without the </sarcasm> tag for at least a few months.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You are honestly telling me there is not a restaurant, store, home owner, golf course, convenience store, etc., etc., in your area that will not give you a job?? Am I supposed to believe THAT?

Rofl. That's gotta be the quote of the day.

This quote genuinely show's you're complete ignorance of reality.

I currently make a great living...of course, I'm a technical guy who's involved in moving much of my companies manufacturing assets to mainland China. I've been there and I'll be going back.

There's not a company in any of those lines of businesses that would hire me.

I've determined that the only way to stay alive is to be part of the problem. Of course, once they tire of me and i'm on the skids, I'm going to do my damnded best to suck the wallets dry of folks like you who think free trade is great for business.

I'm certain you're brand me with any number of labels. Feel free...once the domestic job market consists almost entirely of VP+ jobs, you'll be on the skids too and you're attitude will change. I certainly don't expect the light to pierce your eyes until then.

Until there is FAIR trade, the US will suffer except for those folks who leech off of the trade superhighway direct into the USA. You can't see it yet because you benefit from it. I'm part of that superhighway...building the road even and making a good living at it. Too bad it's a one way road. However, us roadbuilders look across the median and see grass and K-rails. Nothing seems is being built the other way and in fact is obstructed the other way.

Nevermind that though. You're making a killing now...right? heh. Reality will hit you at 2pm on some tuesday and you're vision will become crystal clear. Nevermind those blinkers now though...full speed ahead.
336 posted on 08/25/2003 7:47:21 PM PDT by Malsua
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To: Jhoffa_
I like Bush, but I think he needs to do something about this.

There you go... IMHO, Expect to hear allot more of this in the next year or so.

People have been conditioned since Herbert 'The Engineer' Hoover's interventionism to expect the government to 'do something' about the economy. 'Doing something' about the Fed induced credit bubble of the 20's gave us the Great Depression. The ansewered to failed government intervention in the economy is invariably more intervention. Why not liberty instead?

337 posted on 08/25/2003 7:47:51 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3
Ronald Reagan used tariffs and quotas and spoke of Free Trade in tehterms of Adam Smith and david Riccardo not teh unilateral removal of American tariffs on imports or the Uruguay Round Trasfer of wealth priciples.
338 posted on 08/25/2003 7:48:08 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Dane
And 15 years ago, the all knowing press was saying that the Japanese would be owning everything.

This has nothing to do with the press or the Japanese (or any other foreign country). It has to do with the wealth distribution and class structure of the United States. I don't see any foreign power having any influence over this at all.

339 posted on 08/25/2003 7:48:55 PM PDT by templar
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To: Mad Dawgg
Apparently anyone who believes in the free market is also a Red Chinese Commie Pinko. (according to all the anti-business-save-my-job-at-any-cost types)

I wouldn't say that. What I would say is that people such as yourself are quite naive and deluded to believe anything good can come from pursuing One-Way Industry Destroying Trade Deals with a Communist Nation where Freedom and Liberty are non-existent and slave labor is a way of life.

Just 2 years ago we were locked in a bitter conflict with Red China over that “little” air incident over international waters. Yeah, China is a good friend that means no harm. They don't want to take over Taiwan. Their rapid military build up is just for defensive purposes. Their tenacious pirating of our technology is only because they want to be just like us. Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you can sleep better at night.

340 posted on 08/25/2003 7:49:31 PM PDT by WRhine
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