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Free trade's victims turning against Bush, GOP
The Herald Sun ^ | August 25, 2003 | associated press

Posted on 08/25/2003 2:05:47 PM PDT by snopercod

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- This year's highly publicized job losses in North Carolina manufacturing, including the Pillowtex bankruptcy, could mean trouble next year for President Bush in a region that was a stronghold in 2000.

Bush won more than 56 percent of the vote in both North Carolina and South Carolina in 2000. But his strong support of free trade has turned some against him in the South, where U.S. trade policies are blamed for the loss of jobs in textiles and other manufacturing sectors.

Andy Warlick, chief executive officer of Parkdale Mills in Gaston County, said he doubts he will repeat his 2000 vote for Bush next year.

"He made a lot of promises and he hasn't delivered on any of them," Warlick said. "I've had some firsthand experience of him sending down trade and commerce officials, but they're just photo ops. It's empty rhetoric."

Fred Reese, the president of Western N.C. Industries, an employers' association, said executives are beginning to raise their voices against Bush and are planning education and voter drives.

"We're seeing a new dynamic where the executives and employees are both beginning to see a real threat to their interests. You're going to see people who traditionally voted Republican switch over," Reese predicted.

The hard feelings were on display days after Pillowtex's July 30 bankruptcy filing, when Republican U.S. Rep. Robin Hayes walked into a Kannapolis auditorium to meet with former workers.

"Thanks for sending the jobs overseas, Robin!" shouted Brenda Miller, a longtime worker at the textile giant's Salisbury plant.

In December 2001 Hayes -- who is an heir to the Cannon family textile fortune -- cast the tie-breaking vote to give Bush the authority to negotiate "fast-track" trade agreements, trade treaties that Congress must vote up or down with no amendments.

At the time, Hayes said he won promises from the Bush administration that it would more strictly enforce existing trade agreements and pressure foreign countries to open their markets to U.S. textiles.

"Are we pleased with the way they responded? Absolutely," Hayes said. "Are we satisfied with where we are? Absolutely not."

Jobs in many industries have fled overseas since 1993, when Congress passed the Clinton-backed North American Free Trade Agreement, or NAFTA. About half the textile and apparel jobs that existed in 1994 are gone.

Since Bush took office in January 2001, it is estimated North Carolina and South Carolina have lost more than 180,000 manufacturing jobs.

And even more textile jobs could be out the door once quotas on Chinese imports expire at the end of next year.

Republican U.S. Rep. Cass Ballenger voted for NAFTA and fast-track, and has seen his 10th District lose nearly 40,000 jobs, primarily in the textile and furniture industries.

"Certainly, there's a political cost to any controversial vote no matter which side you take," he said. "People are casting stones, but we're trying to pick them up and build something."

Democratic U.S. Sen. John Edwards voted against fast-track in 2002 after voting for an earlier version. In 2000 he voted for permanent normal trade relations with China.

Recently, though, while campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, Edwards has attacked Bush's trade policies and called for fairer trade measures.

Robert Neal, vice president of the local chapter of the Pillowtex workers' union, said Hayes has worked to try to ease the impact of job losses in his district.

"Though he (Hayes) voted for fast-track, he is really concerned about the workers and their conditions in the state of North Carolina," Neal said.

Not everyone feels that way.

Reese is organizing 1,500 manufacturing companies across North Carolina in an effort to leverage what he calls a new voting bloc.

In South Carolina, voter drives are planned for the first time at Milliken & Co., which has about 30 plants in the state. Mount Vernon Mills of Greenville, S.C., is forming a political action committee.

The company's president Roger Chastain, a one-time Bush voter, doesn't expect to support the president or Jim DeMint, a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Democrat Ernest Hollings.

"We're basically liquidating our whole middle class, polarizing people on the two extremes, have and have-nots," Chastain said of the manufacturing job losses. "We'll be a Third World country."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: economy; fasttrack; jobs; manufacturing; nafta; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; pillotex; treetrade
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To: Poohbah
Good tactics. But what is the proactive strategy to deal with the accumulated macroeconomic impacts and effects on long term US and Western geopolitical power?
1,201 posted on 08/29/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Poohbah
Do you think it was wrong for us to withhold technology from the Soviet Union? Do you favor the current embargo on Cuba, DPRK, Iran and Myanmar?
1,202 posted on 08/29/2003 11:18:57 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Poohbah
Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

Gunny Highway, did you have that cigar in your mouth when you said that?

1,203 posted on 08/29/2003 11:19:31 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: belmont_mark; hchutch
So you oppose the existing export controls?

Yes, because they do notcome even close to accomplishing their stated goals. Their sole use is as a means of extorting political donations from businesses.

1,204 posted on 08/29/2003 11:22:33 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: belmont_mark
Do you think it was wrong for us to withhold technology from the Soviet Union?

When we were the only technology producer of note, yes.

Do you favor the current embargo on Cuba, DPRK, Iran and Myanmar?

I prefer invading Cuba, maintaining the embargo on the DPRK, "regime change" in Iran, and ignoring Myanmar.

1,205 posted on 08/29/2003 11:25:25 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Yup. And it wasn't a contraband Cuban one, either.

That line sums up my success in life.
1,206 posted on 08/29/2003 11:26:33 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: belmont_mark
Good tactics. But what is the proactive strategy to deal with the accumulated macroeconomic impacts and effects on long term US and Western geopolitical power?

The same.

1,207 posted on 08/29/2003 11:27:53 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
RE: "I prefer invading Cuba, maintaining the embargo on the DPRK, "regime change" in Iran"

At last! Points of agreement! I knew we could get here!

1,208 posted on 08/29/2003 11:27:54 AM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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To: Poohbah
"Improvise. Adapt. Overcome"

I have too, 2x now. I was, and still am, better prepared than most.

However, I'm finding it much tougher this time round (still have a job and preparing for the inevitable). The environment has changed dramatically, good jobs are getting scarcer.

If I am feeling the pinch, what about those who aren't as well prepared (which is the average American), what about those who don't have jobs?

If this group keeps growing, it may very well impact the next election. We may very well end up with exactly what this country doesn't need, another Clinton.

Thus, if the election is a close one answers such as "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome" won't push Bush over the top.
1,209 posted on 08/29/2003 11:29:29 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: belmont_mark; All
No one is categorically doomed. However there are consequences, both short and long term, to decisions and behavior.

We're all potentially doomed.

1,210 posted on 08/29/2003 11:35:03 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I just don't get it, do I?)
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To: PigRigger
OK, then we'll try to protect Americans from their own stupidity and the stupidity of the politicians they elected...using more of the same stupid ideas that got them into this mess to begin with.
1,211 posted on 08/29/2003 11:36:47 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: Poohbah
"OK, then we'll try to protect Americans from their own stupidity and the stupidity of the politicians they elected...using more of the same stupid ideas that got them into this mess to begin with."

I'm not sure what the answer is, but if Bush doesn't, Dean or some other Dem will. That thought gives me nightmares.
1,212 posted on 08/29/2003 11:55:51 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: PigRigger
I'm not sure what the answer is, but if Bush doesn't, Dean or some other Dem will. That thought gives me nightmares.

Huh? What if Bush gets re-elected and still doesn't do what you want (hopefully)? Then your little prediction will be false because Bush won't have done this and neither will have Dean or any other Democrat.

1,213 posted on 08/29/2003 12:03:53 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I just don't get it, do I?)
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To: Texas_Dawg
What if Bush gets re-elected and still doesn't do what you want (hopefully)? Then your little prediction will be false because Bush won't have done this and neither will have Dean or any other Democrat.

That would be very unfortunate. If the political process fails and the problem is ignored and allowed to linger, then it will start to spill into the streets.
1,214 posted on 08/29/2003 12:53:06 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA; All
That would be very unfortunate. If the political process fails and the problem is ignored and allowed to linger, then it will start to spill into the streets.

We're all doomed.

1,215 posted on 08/29/2003 12:54:32 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I just don't get it, do I?)
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To: Texas_Dawg
We're all doomed. I am not, but perhaps you are.
1,216 posted on 08/29/2003 1:07:37 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: ARCADIA
We're all doomed. I am not, but perhaps you are.

Sure you are. Once we free traitors sell out this country and China invades, you will be doomed just as much as anyone else.

1,217 posted on 08/29/2003 1:33:20 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Little man? I don't even care about the upper-middle class.)
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To: PigRigger; Constitution Day; joanie-f
Your #1189 may have been the best post on the entire thread (the one that Constitution Day made me start ;-)

Americans have always prospered by adapting; This is just another adjustment, even if a painful one. But all we Americans want is a level playing field.

All we want is tariff parity with countries like China. Don't slap 75% duties on our goods and services when we let your 500Lb. cast-iron bathtubs into our country for free.

All we want is to be able to compete under the same rules as everybody else.

Memo to President Bush: Roll back the federal behemoth and all it's "hoards of officials sent to eat out our substance". Our air and water is cleaner than every other country on earth. So let's declare that the Clean Water/Air Acts have been a success and are therefore no longer needed. Turn all that over to the States where it rightfully belonged in the first place.

Unchain the powerhouse that once was America and could be again. Otherwise, you're going to be a one-term president.

1,218 posted on 08/29/2003 2:04:41 PM PDT by snopercod (The moving finger writes...)
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To: snopercod
BTTT!!!
1,219 posted on 08/29/2003 2:38:52 PM PDT by Lael (It is time to make "OUTSOURCING" the litmus test!!)
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To: Lael
Thanks for the bump.

My neighbor, who is probably 65, is a partner in a company that historically has acted as a middle-man between companies that had a need, and companies that could fill that need.

He started out by designing a powdered-metallurgy replacement for a formerly-machined valve assembly for air conditioners. They were cheaper and better, and he traveled around the country and sold a whole lot of them.

They branched out into doing the same kind of thing in other industries - finding vendors who could supply improved (cheaper) versions of things that big companies needed.

Over the last few years, his company has lost almost all their business because his "principles" are going overseas for the kinds of things he sells.

So he (reluctantly) has joined them. His business now is as an intermediary between American companies who need metal parts, and the Chinese, who will make them for a fraction of the cost for which they can be made in America.

American foundries, machine shops, forges, mills, etc. simply can't compete under the current rules.

Maybe abolishing absurd EPA regulations won't help, but Bush should try. Unless he wants to be a one-termer, he needs to do SOMETHING (other than tell us that things are really OK and we unemployed are a bunch of whiners.)

Like my primary flying instructor (back when I could afford to fly) told me, "Dammit John, do something, even if it's wrong!"

1,220 posted on 08/29/2003 3:08:18 PM PDT by snopercod (The moving finger writes...)
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