The message in the Baghdad bombing?

WND ^ | 08-25-03 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[stop_fascism]

Pat and the Palies agree about one thing: the end of Israel.

[St.Chuck]

His colleague Robert D.S. Novak seems to make the same error of judgment. Buchanan and Novak seem to regard Israel as the aggressor, rather than the one under attack.

Hasn't it been Israel's policies in regard to their conquered territories that has fomented much of the universal animosity that Arabs hold for Israeli's. Isn't the U.S. viewed as culpable in the Arab mind, due to it's close association with Israel, it's vast military and financial support of Israel?

[aculeus]

Buchanan is a latter-day Father Coughlin: an ignorant bigot.

For sensible pro-American advice an Arab immigrant [shiite] shows the boorish Buchanan how it is done:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/969947/posts

[St.Chuck]

If the world had let Hitler have Poland, there would have been no war. In theory anyway.

Yes, I've heard about that theory. Interesting, but is only a theory.

[DCPatriot]

It would seem to me that the future profits from oil exports will be enough to cover their own cost of reconstruction.

Why, then, does the press not call anyone on these ridiculous claims that it's the Americans that are going to bear the cost?

[ex-snook]

The Israel-Palestine situation is the heart of our problem with the Arabs. If Bush had advanced Clinton's 95% solution, there would have been no 9/11, no current Iraq war nor killing and counter killing in Israel-Palestine.

Unwanted occupation by anyone = terrorism.

Get on with the final stage of the peace process. Right now it is just a Kabuki dance of endless tit-for-tat death. Deciding who is, or who is not, in control of Palestine or whose turn it is to go lead has proved unfruitful.

Time to set the borders of both nations, require mutual recognition and a US/UN supervised non-aggression pact. Why delay?

[ml/nj]

The message is that Israel is the canary in the mineshaft for the rest of the world. When Muslims started blowing themselves up on busses and pizza parlors in Israel, the rest of us should have been quietly urging massive, and I mean massive (maybe 1000-1 deaths), retaliation against the Islamic Swine. Instead the Great Minds counseled sitting down to tea, and these suicide bombings have become a world wide scourge.

ML/NJ

[caltrop]

I don't agree with Buchanan on everything but he's certainly got this right.

[St.Chuck]

Pat and the Palies agree about one thing: the end of Israel.

I think that is an overstatement, but just for fun....so what? The U.S. doesn't have a problem getting rid of troublesome regimes. We've invaded Panama, Grenada, Afghanistan, Iraq. Israel, has long been troublesome to America; heck, it even attacked a U.S. naval vessel at one point. It's been a drain on our diplomatic energies for decades, not to mention our foreign aid allocations. We had no problem getting rid of a theocracy in Afghanistan. What is so important about Israel, from the U.S. point of view, that we need them around at all? We don't need them to provide a land base to launch attacks. We have Arab allies for that. It is not an area teeming in natural resources. I don't get the knee-jerk defense of Israel that comes so easily from Americans. So if Buchanan and the so-called pallies aren't convinced that Israel is vital to American interests, I don't see anything particularly irrational about that.

[St.Chuck]

With Buchanan everything starts from his hatred of Jews and moves from there.

That's pure calumny. With Buchanan, an American, he rightfully questions his government's relationship with a tiny country whose internal problems have become an eternal nuisance to his country's. If you read hatred into that, then you reveal your own bigotry.

[Theodore R.]

Probably what happened is that I intended to click "WND.com" for source but struck "Washington Times" by error. They are both listed under "W" on my sources.

[St.Chuck]

But reading your little diatribe it makes one see afresh just how the Holocaust occurred.

LOL. Methinks you would see a holocaust around every corner. If genocide is your chief concern, then I submit, that Jews would be far safer dispersed throughout the free, democracized west, rather than corraled together in the most barbaric region of the world.

[robertpaulsen]

"We nuked them. I for one am ready to do the same in the Middle East .."

And your two cities would be ... ?

[robertpaulsen]

So you're saying that Israel would be less safe if they turned over the West Bank and Gaza to the Palestinians? That action will tip the scales and cause Israel's destruction?

That's the stupidest argument yet.

Israel has had two major wars against hostile nations and won both decisively. But the creation of a Palestinian state is the end of Israel. Right.

[ellery]

What was Pat's solution to fighting global terror, again? Anyone?

[doc]

Once again Pat has nailed it.