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To: Laur; The Other Harry
Laur, you have it right, Harry on the other hand is not using his mind, just his heart.

What I don't understand about people who "feel" their way through this problem is how they can ignor the plight of the legal immigrant, waiting for his/her turn at residency in America. The illegal is a line jumper, a claim jumper who deserves much worse than simple deportation. (He is taking the future of another, what is the proper price when you take someone's future?)

And Harry, you moved from Santa Cruz, (a left leaning city) to Virginia. I presume to retire as did I, moving from a largely hispanic Bay Area neighborhood to Alabama. I was frankly happy to leave that neighborhood even though the people were friendly, they did not study in school and called the paramedics for every medical emergency. they lived in squalor, 14 or more to a two bedroom home. They send money back to Mexico instead of bettering their lives here. In no way are they supporting this country. Harry, you would not want them in Virginia-- even if they would mow your lawn for free. this is the tradgedy (of the commons) that people like you feel your personal benefit to outweigh the loss to everyone else in society.

PS, I also prefer the conservative mood of Alabama over the liberal slant of everything in California. How do you find the Virginians Harry?
134 posted on 08/25/2003 11:23:11 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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To: KC_for_Freedom
How do you find the Virginians Harry?

I snipped almost all your message. But I do agree with just about everything you said.

I like it here. It does get a bit hot in summer. On the other hand, we have great nature and the political climate is much more to my liking than that of Santa Cruz. You can also afford to buy a house here. I paid $92,000 for a house that would have cost me well over $400,000 in Santa Cruz. It needs some work, but I'm getting there.

As to the immigrants, I have often wondered whether something like temporary worker passes might not be a bad idea. We used to have those.

There are a lot of problems. I know about them. But I think they can be fixed. Number 1 on my list would be to require English to be learned and spoken. I think speaking any other language should be prohibited.

You are right about line jumping. I was married to a New Zealander, and we tried to comply with the laws. It was not easy, and we went to a lot of trouble to do it.

Still, "those people" do work hard. I would see them in the fields when I was driving to Sunday brunch, stooped over, picking. Not the easiest of jobs. Not something either of my kids would ever do.

I once wanted a juniper plant removed. I don't know how much you know about juniper plants, but they have very deep roots. They are an absolute bitch to remove. I couldn't do it myself. I tried.

So, I drove down to KMart and hired a couple of the day laborers who hang around out in the front. Two hours and $40 later, the bush was gone. A perfect job.

Now, let's say $10 of that $40 went to buy quart bottles of cervaza. Another $5 went to buy gas for their beat up old car. $5 went to pay rent. The remaining $20 got sent back to Mexico.

There is no harm in any of that. Every dollar that gets sent to Mexico winds up back here. Taxes are ultimately paid on everything. And my juniper bush was gone.

You think I could have hired a couple local school kids to do that job? I could have hired a contractor for $500, but I would not have done that.

You go look in the produce section of your local market and think about this. If there were no illegal immigrants, there would be no produce section.

139 posted on 08/25/2003 12:16:10 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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To: KC_for_Freedom
How do you find the Virginians Harry?

I might have missed your question on the first pass.

Virginians are just fine. They tend to leave other people alone. That is the way I think it should be. (Comments do not apply to northern VA.)

We have illegals here too. And, since you mentioned paramedics, I am starting EMT training in about three hours. That should be a good way to become better acquainted with everyone. All the better elements of the community.

One thing I am wondering about is whether they will allow me to take an Ithaca 16 gauge shotgun with me when I go on calls. I think probably so.

147 posted on 08/25/2003 12:36:32 PM PDT by The Other Harry
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