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A communist life with no apology
The New York Times ^ | August 23, 2003 | SARAH LYALL

Posted on 08/22/2003 10:53:14 PM PDT by LadyDoc

A Communist Life With No Apology By SARAH LYALL

ONDON, Aug. 22 — Born in 1917, the year of the October Revolution, the historian Eric Hobsbawm has lived through much of "the most extraordinary and terrible century in human history," as he describes it, from the rise of Communism and fascism to World War II, the cold war and the dissolution of the Soviet Union.

Recent events, he says, "fit in with the gloomy picture" he has had of world affairs for the last three-quarters of a century.

But for an unapologetic pessimist, Mr. Hobsbawm is remarkably robust, bordering on cheerful.

As he describes in "Interesting Times: A 20th-Century Life" (Pantheon), his new memoir, Mr. Hobsbawm has overcome considerable odds, including a fractured childhood in Weimar Germany, to become one of the great British historians of his age, an unapologetic Communist and a polymath whose erudite, elegantly written histories are still widely read in schools here and abroad.

He turns his analytical historian's eye on himself, examining with wry, rich detail the history of the century "through the itinerary of one human being whose life could not possibly have occurred in any other," he writes. The title's twin meanings — interesting times, according to the old Chinese curse, inevitably carry tragedy and upheaval, too — neatly capture the tensions between his personal history and his life as a historian.

"Do you remember what Brecht said — `Unlucky the country that needs heroes'?" Mr. Hobsbawm asked. "From the point of view of ordinary people, uninteresting times, where things aren't happening, are the best. But from the point of view of a historian, obviously, it's completely different."

Mr. Hobsbawm, a gangly 86-year-old with thick horn-rimmed glasses and an engagingly lopsided smile, spoke in his living room in Hampstead, long the neighborhood of choice for London's leftist intellectuals, in between sips of coffee. The room was lined with books; the front hall was full of the toddler paraphernalia that comes when one's home is a destination of choice for grandchildren (he has three). The telephone rang constantly as various family members and friends called to discuss plans that Mr. Hobsbawm invariably said would require further consultation with his wife, Marlene, who was out for the morning.

Mr. Hobsbawm is that unlikeliest of creatures, a committed Communist who never really left the party (he let his membership lapse just before the collapse of the Soviet Union) but still managed to climb to the upper echelons of English respectability by virtue of his intellectual rigor, engaging curiosity and catholic breadth of interests. He is an emeritus professor at the University of London and holds countless honorary degrees around the world, from Chile to Sweden.

Yet he will always be dogged by questions about how he can square his long and faithful membership in the Communist Party with the reality of Communism, particularly as it played out under Stalin. In "Interesting Times," he denounces Stalin and Stalinism but also praises aspects of Communist Russia and argues that in some countries, notably the former U.S.S.R., life is worse now than it was under the Socialist system.

Some people will never forgive Mr. Hobsbawm for his beliefs. In an angry review of his new book in The New Criterion, David Pryce-Jones said that Mr. Hobsbawm was "someone who has steadily corrupted knowledge into propaganda" and that his Communism had "destroyed him as an interpreter of events."

"Interesting Times" has gathered mostly glowing reviews across Britain. But the book again raises the problem that even Mr. Hobsbawm's admirers find dismaying.

In The Times Literary Supplement, the historian Richard Vinen said that "Interesting Times" does not give a satisfactory explanation of its author's motivations. "The closer that he comes to such questions, the more confusing he becomes," Mr. Vinen wrote.

Mr. Hobsbawm does address the issue in a section explaining why he did not abandon Communism in 1956 when Nikita S. Khrushchev's electrifying denunciation of Stalin sent waves of revulsion at Stalin's crimes through the worldwide movement. But while many of his colleagues resigned from the party in horrified protest, Mr. Hobsbawm did not.

He says he was "strongly repelled by the idea of being in the company of those ex-Communists who turned into fanatical anti-Communists." More important, perhaps, was the childhood he spent in interwar Germany, where he was part of the generation "tied by an almost unbreakable umbilical cord to hope of world revolution, and of its original home, the October Revolution, however skeptical or critical of the U.S.S.R.," he writes.

Asked the same question in his living room, Mr. Hobsbawm sighed. It is a question he is always asked. "Let's put it this way," he said. "I didn't want to break with the tradition that was my life and with what I thought when I first got into it. I still think it was a great cause, the emancipation of humanity. Maybe we got onto it the wrong way, maybe we backed the wrong horse, but you have to be in that race, or else human life isn't worth living."

Communism, he said, was much more than Stalinism and meant different things around the world in Spain, in Italy, in South America, in South Africa, for instance. "The idea that the only thing about this movement was that you were for the Soviet Union and that when you then discovered how awful Stalin was that you should have left is not a historic way of looking at it," he said.

Mr. Hobsbawm's book is about far more than his Communism, though politics and life to him are symbiotic. Born a Jew in Alexandria, Egypt, to an English father and an Austrian mother, he lived until his early teens in Vienna and then in the disastrous dying days of Weimar Germany. Both his parents died by the time he was 14. His father, struggling hand to mouth to make a living, collapsed one day on the doorstep of their home. His mother died after a wasting illness some two years later.

Mr. Hobsbawm fled into himself, finding relief in the life of the mind. "Clearly it marked me very deeply, but I was covered to some extent because I had, as it were, my private escape into curiosity, into fantasy," he said. "It probably also left me with an unwillingness to be too outgoing. I kept a lot of my troubles to myself."

His youth, particularly as Hitler's fascists began their rise to power, propelled him into Communism and into a lifelong sympathy for revolutions, for contrary thinking, for the ideal of revolutionary utopia. This took root in many ways, from his love of jazz (for a time, he was the jazz critic for The New Statesman) to the wide range of subjects in his books.

He is best known for his books surveying the history of the world since 1789: "The Age of Revolution" (1962), "The Age of Capital" (1975), "The Age of Empire" (1987); and "Age of Extremes" (1994). He commands a loyal following, particularly in Latin America. The author Julian Barnes appeared with him at a literary festival in Parati, Brazil, and in a recent article in The Guardian described how Mr. Hobsbawm was accosted by fans demanding his autograph as he walked around town.

As a youth, Mr. Hobsbawm moved to England with an aunt, eventually earning a place at King's College, Cambridge, on the strength of his obvious brilliance. He later became a lecturer and then a professor in Birkbeck College in London.

Famous friends, colleagues and public figures flit in and out of the pages of his book. Arthur Schlesinger Jr., E. M. Forster, Che Guevara (for whom Mr. Hobsbawm was once an impromptu interpreter, though he was no admirer of Che's guerrilla strategy) all make appearances, along with scores of others. Mr. Hobsbawm also describes the inner workings of the Historian's Group in the British Communist Party; the almost physical agony that Communists in Britain suffered when the truth about Stalin became clear; and various debates in the Labor Party, which has occasionally turned to him for advice.

"If anything, I was an extremely right-wing Communist and generally attacked by the leftists, including the leftists in the Labor Party," he said.

His travels took him all over the world, and along the way, he picked up the ability to speak German, French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese and to read Dutch and Catalan. Mr. Hobsbawm visited the Soviet Union only twice, finding that it was dispiriting and that he had a much greater affinity with Communists elsewhere. He remains as busy as ever, preparing papers for conferences abroad in the next year.

Mr. Hobsbawm wrote his book, he writes, not for "agreement, approval or sympathy" but for "historical understanding," as a way to explain himself and his thinking. It ends on a pessimistic note, with a discussion of Sept. 11 and America's thrusting new role in the world.

The Sept. 11 attacks, as horrific as they were, were not comparable as a crisis either to World War II or to the cold war, he said, and the United States made a grave mistake in reacting the way it did.

"At present, pessimists like myself look forward to a very disturbed next 10 or 20 years, very largely because of the present policy of the people who are in charge in Washington," Mr. Hobsbawm said.

Over his many years and against considerable odds, Mr. Hobsbawm has somehow maintained his belief in human resilience, in man's ability to live through the most appalling personal and public tragedies and still go on. Speaking of the blitz, he said that survival during that time required a suspension of fear, a willful pushing aside of reality.

"Once you actually lived under bombardment, for instance, as Great Britain did, you recognized that you could survive," he said. "I think that human beings can manage to square a lot of things. The truth is that except for short periods, ordinary life goes on, so long as it's allowed to."


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"Let's put it this way," he said. "I didn't want to break with the tradition that was my life and with what I thought when I first got into it. I still think it was a great cause, the emancipation of humanity. Maybe we got onto it the wrong way, maybe we backed the wrong horse, but you have to be in that race, or else human life isn't worth living."

Right. You backed the "horse" that killed 100 million people in the twentieth centruy, but it's okay, becaue it made YOUR life "worth living"....

1 posted on 08/22/2003 10:53:14 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
A typical New York Times view of someone like this: an apologist for murder, but his intentions were good.
2 posted on 08/22/2003 11:04:20 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: LadyDoc
And notice he did his propagandizing in NON-COMMUNIST countries....
3 posted on 08/22/2003 11:09:06 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: LadyDoc
He needs a baseball bat to the head.
4 posted on 08/22/2003 11:10:35 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats have stunted brain development!)
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To: LadyDoc
Maybe we got onto it the wrong way, maybe we backed the wrong horse, but you have to be in that race, or else human life isn't worth living.

That is not good enough. That is so far from good enough as to make me wonder if Mr. Hobsbawm is quite sane. It is the ultimate abdication of the intelligence that is a gift of God to to be so cowardly as to refuse to use it to examine one's own precepts and those tangible results that are the proof of the worth - or lack of it - of one's life's work and the dearest apple of one's heart. On the standard of a Hook, a Chambers, or even such as a Horowitz, this gentleman fails the test.

I say this because it is plain to even the most self-deluded ivory-tower academic that the aspirations of improving humanity that are the core of Marxism are so far the diametrical opposite of the reality that it is more than ironic, it is a bitter, mocking parody of human credulity to maintain the fiction. If I might characterize Mr. Hobsbawm in a word, "credulous" would be very close. Fond illusions are the currency of children and fools, and there is no excuse for it when the price to pay is the shattered lives of an appreciable fraction of humanity. None. May his grandchildren hold onto the illusion as long as possible. The cruel fruit of Mr. Hobsbawm's wasted life will be the horror they experience should the scales fall from their eyes.

5 posted on 08/22/2003 11:27:13 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: LadyDoc
All commies are delusional or just plain evil. But at least this man, unlike the demorats, can admit he is a communist.
6 posted on 08/22/2003 11:43:43 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: Billthedrill
You have obviously done some thinking about this phenomenon. Have you been exposed to the Frankfurt School?
7 posted on 08/22/2003 11:57:05 PM PDT by nathanbedford (qqua)
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To: LadyDoc
Maybe we got onto it the wrong way, maybe we backed the wrong horse, but you have to be in that race, or else human life isn't worth living.

Maybe if we back the right horses, maybe if we try socialism with the right socialists in charge, we can get it right this time. Maybe we won't kill 100 million this time, maybe only 50 million or so. That's it, the problem with socialism was not that it was a bad idea but that we backed the wrong socialists. If we back the right socialists.... How about Hillary?

8 posted on 08/23/2003 12:04:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford (qqua)
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Marxist Student Has Capitalist Parents

Marxists' Apartment A Microcosm Of Why Marxism Doesn't Work

9 posted on 08/23/2003 12:40:42 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: LadyDoc
This mans philosophy has caused more pain and suffering than any other.

And he has the nerve to tell us were “doing it all wrong” on the war on terror???

What an ass.
10 posted on 08/23/2003 1:19:21 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: LadyDoc
Gosh, I was wondering if the writer would stop off in argentina and interview a couple of old nazi. The write beautifully and they never apologize either.

Isn't it amazing how the Times still thinks that ink should be wasted on old communists.

God help them if they wrote a story about religous people helping people in need in every part of america and the world. Those evil capitalist God loving Americans should not get this kind of glowing tribute, because we need to take heros and God out of our times.

11 posted on 08/23/2003 4:16:17 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: LadyDoc
Thank you for the post. I sometimes forget for a millisecond or so just what we are up against...

Mr. Hobsbaum's poisonous pen, corrupted intellect and godless spirit will all be there with him as he walks through life's other door. Then he will know better. No doubt he has a fine mind by human standards - but there are some dear hearts with double digit IQ's in this world who will be far, far ahead of all the Hobsbaums in the end.

(Lord, I am so weary of the NY Times and their elite media brethren)
12 posted on 08/23/2003 4:33:29 AM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere)
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To: LadyDoc
I almost posted this myself as a clinical example of the Times biased reporting.

The New York Times: home of the greatest fraudualent reporter in history: Walter Duranty, the great Stalinist enabler and propagandist.

13 posted on 08/23/2003 4:35:55 AM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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“Mr. Hobsbawm is that unlikeliest of creatures, a committed Nazi who never really left the party (he let his membership lapse just before the collapse of the third Reich) but still managed to climb to the upper echelons of English respectability by virtue of his intellectual rigor, engaging curiosity and catholic breadth of interests. Yet he will always be dogged by questions about how he can square his long and faithful membership in the Nazi Party with the reality of Nazism, particularly as it played out under Hitler. In "Interesting Times," he denounces Hitler and his “Final Solution” but also praises aspects of Nazi Germany and argues that under Hitler the trains at least ran on time.”

Doesn't sound so great when you replace a few of the words, eh, New York Times?

14 posted on 08/23/2003 6:09:50 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Excellent!!!
15 posted on 08/23/2003 6:11:25 AM PDT by friendly ((Badges?, we don gots to show no stinkin' badges!))
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To: LadyDoc
Another disgusting puff piece for totalitarianism. No apology, eh? With treatment like this, there's no need.
16 posted on 08/23/2003 11:00:18 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: LadyDoc
In the late thirties Hobsbawm kept voluminous diaries in German. In these he listed the basis of his communism as a sense of "mass ecstasy," "pity for the exploited," and the "aesthetic appeal of a perfect and comprehensive intellectual system - dialectical materialism." The aesthetic appeal of perfection --- not the pursuit of truth --- led naive intellectual systematizers like Hobsbawm to believe that all of reality could be shoe-horned into a utopian castle in the sky. The history of Marxism can rightly be thought of, in part, as a sad testimony to the misplaced confidence of intellectuals in their ability to interpret and describe reality, as if thinking something true, something that has "aesthetic appeal," could make it so.

Here's David Pryce-Jones' piece, mentioned above, in The New Criterion.

17 posted on 08/23/2003 1:26:14 PM PDT by beckett
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To: beckett
thnks for the link
18 posted on 08/23/2003 3:49:14 PM PDT by LadyDoc (AND)
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To: LadyDoc
Comminism is evil. This guy is just stupid.
19 posted on 08/23/2003 4:34:22 PM PDT by RusIvan
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As he describes in "Interesting Times: A 20th-Century Life" (Pantheon), his new memoir, Mr. Hobsbawm has overcome considerable odds, including a fractured childhood in Weimar Germany, to become one of the great British historians of his age, an unapologetic Communist...

Can anyone put me in touch with the Fox News attorneys?

20 posted on 08/23/2003 4:36:32 PM PDT by Interesting Times (Tag line. You're it.)
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