Posted on 08/22/2003 2:40:17 PM PDT by Pokey78
Orlando Salinas broke in a few minutes ago and announced this on Fox News.
Not a word...not even a hint of a Creator.
But alot of power imagry...orbs flying around peoples heads...energy bolts flying from Eye Balls....Incantations....body Tatooing.
Then we can delve into the "Subcutinous Implant"....imagry.
This starts up again around 3:00 PM...then the News run..an behold..at 7:00 pm,
The Homosexual/Gay programming begins..[most are comedies..so you will Laugh while the Gays flit about]
Hardly a word about God all day..except in the Gay programming...strange that God gets encorporated into the Humor..[Or is is designed so]
The 10 Commandments and Judge Moore.
Doubtfull this will rival anything like "Rorkes Drift" valiant stand...Guadalcanal etc.
Why does it seem like WW-2 was the last time period when anything made sense..when people worked as one for their Freedom?
A quick read thru the Hebrew narrative reveals a people carted off to oblivion..crying by the River Bank of a foreign land.
No math needed on this one...the Jew has been banished..bludgeeoned and nearly obliterated frmo the face of the Earth...yet they remain with us..they are actually back in their old environs...and they still hold to the Law from so very Long ago.
If the [Law] was what mattered..Israel would never have been defeated or disburssed to the four winds...for we all know how the Jewish people observe the Law with passion.
They got handed over..why?..if they were to obey..they did..so why?
I doubt the Creator is hurting for attention..or is an aspireing novelist working thru abstracts to get the perfect action,drama romance Book for us to read.
So it seems that ** If God exists..this entity requires more than obedience to Law as foundation.
I think it is very much like the Hebrew narratives convey..its a relationship...first personal..then national.
God screams and vents in frustration thru the entire Book we know as the Bible.
Appeal upon appeal to Adam to return..to come back..to stay awhile.
The free will reality kicks in..the final proof of Love.
The Creator simply lets Adam go off to his/her other Gods.
Theres an intersting analogy in the story of Abraham and Lot.
Both are prospering..land and economic concerns become a pressing issue...Abraham goes on way..Lot another.
A few paragraphs later...Lot is very much trapped in the City of Sodom.
Lot heads to the plains near Sodom cuz **He knows its a better PC move.
Abraham heads of to dusty wastes....something about the Sodom region tells him the move that way is trouble.
Soon Lot and his family are about to be done in the nightly orgies.
In Sodom,,,everybody takes it up the Kazoo...no deferments here.
The systems final social act is to brutalize your humanity.
As far as North America..the Western world,..the brutalizing is on in so many ways.
Soon..that Verichip bus will not be comming around to do demo's..but the real deal will occur.
The Children..Gramma and Grandpa..they will be chipped first ..Insurance companies and Liberal concern groups will see to that.
The Economic base...the "Worker"..the 20-40- then ..discard group.
They will be chipped too..under different social influence..like Money concerns and employment.
Unless a Crisis ocurs soon..which shatters the common folks perception of security and future hope...a crisis where the people see.[Eye's open]..That they are doomed if they do not rally and fight...the inevitable will occur.
In just a few hundred years...God has been nearly erased from our social conscience.
Soon the enslavement will come....ADAM will gather and cry beside some river....reflecting on how he abdicated common sense..for personal persuit.
Like before...God will simply let Adam go to his other Gods.
Adam will be brutalized by his choice...in his bondage..he will cry.
History does repeat itself...often.
Tilton is a supposed evangelist, and Moore is from the South, where he is supported by a large constituency of evangelicals.
I can't read your mind, but I can add 2+2.
Simply put, why confuse the messenger with the message and the Big Picture?
I didn't. I didn't mention Moore in my post about southern evangelists. You, however, did. It appears you're making some sinister connection, not me.
Sorry, but you're just plain wrong. Sikhs recognize just about all of the Judaistic morality enshrined in the 10 commandments; your example was a very bad one.
This is indefensible.
Your position, perhaps. Having obviously known far more Sikhs than you, I am confident that they don't feel any of your "ooooh, what trouble I am in" at all; all the ones I know follow the 10 commandments a whole lot more than most Christians I know.
It is Judge Moore who is intolerant of other beliefs, and, as an official of the State of Alabama, he simply is not free to "do his thing."
He can believe whatever he wants personally, but he cannot sanction a particular religious expression.
Here, in the US Constitution:
by the unanimous consent of the states present the seventeenth day of September in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven
Of course, such usage isn't relevant to any preceeding section of the Constitution (or to the particular argument on this thread), but it does show "Once-Ler"'s "irrefutable" comment as being hyperbole.
Ok; I'll use small words so you can understand. Your comment using "irrefutable" was wrong, because of the fact that the Constitution still mentions Jesus, just not by proper name.
Go back to the sandbox kid.
Hey, I just figured I would give you a chance to correct your own error before doing it for you. It's not my fault you've never actually read the Constitution in full.
I wouldn't characterize it as "sinister," just obvious.
Very Good! Thank you for correcting me.
That all men are equally free and independent; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
That all political power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their benefit; and that, therefore, they have at all times an inalienable and indefeasible right to change their form of government in such manner as they may deem expedient.
That no religion shall be established by law; that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship; that no one shall be compelled by law to attend any place of worship; nor to pay any tithes, taxes, or other rate for building or repairing any place of worship, or for maintaining any minister or ministry; that no religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under this state; and that the civil rights, privileges, and capacities of any citizen shall not be in any manner affected by his religious principles. [except Judge Moore's]
That all courts shall be open; and that every person, for any injury done him, in his lands, goods, person, or reputation, shall have a remedy by due process of law; and right and justice shall be administered without sale, denial, or delay.
That no power of suspending laws shall be exercised except by the legislature.
The nation these men were citizens of.
"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
"The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded." James Madison
No truth is more evident to any mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people." Noah Webster
It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and the Bible." George Washington
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