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Canada Arrests 19 in Case with Sept 11 Parallels....[flight lesson's}
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Posted on 08/22/2003 8:43:43 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Canada Arrests 19 in Case with Sept 11 Parallels 37 minutes ago Add Top Stories - Reuters to My Yahoo!

TORONTO (Reuters) - Canadian police arrested 19 men last week in a case that, according to court documents obtained by a newspaper, has eerie parallels to the preparations for the Sept. 11 attacks on the United States.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police spokeswoman Michele Paradis on Friday confirmed the arrests but declined to offer details.

"We arrested 19 people last Thursday," Paradis said, adding the operation had involved four police departments from across the Greater Toronto area.

"They're all related and it's all part of, what we're alleging, has to do with a group taking advantage of a system -- the immigration system here in Canada."

The Toronto Star newspaper said the men were arrested after a "pattern of suspicious behavior" which featured one man taking flight lessons that took him directly over an Ontario nuclear power plant.

In court documents obtained by the newspaper, the student pilot was described as "unmotivated" and he raised suspicion because he has trained for nearly three years to obtain a commercial pilots license that normally takes only a year.

"He often brings with him an unknown male as a passenger," the document read.

The alleged incidents evoke chilling memories of the Sept. 11 attacks, where the suicide hijackers who flew commercial planes into New York's World Trade Center and the Pentagon (news - web sites) in Washington took lessons at U.S. flight schools.

The newspaper said two other men were considered suspicious after police found them in April 2002 outside the same nuclear plant, which sits near the shores of Lake Ontario.

"They requested that they be allowed to enter the perimeter in order to go for a walk on the beach," the document said.

Police said the detained men, who are from Pakistan, tended to "reside in clusters of 4 or 5" and changed addresses as a group, according to the newspaper.

Paradis said the investigation, called Project Thread, began last February. She referred questions to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, which did not immediately return calls seeking more information.


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada; captured; jihadnextdoor; projectthread

1 posted on 08/22/2003 8:43:43 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
Good news.
2 posted on 08/22/2003 8:44:53 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Sub-Driver
That Koranic number, 19, again.
3 posted on 08/22/2003 8:47:27 AM PDT by per loin
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To: Sub-Driver
In court documents obtained by the newspaper, the student pilot was described as "unmotivated" and he raised suspicion because he has trained for nearly three years to obtain a commercial pilots license that normally takes only a year.

"Unmotivated" meaning that maybe he was a little conflicted and didn't want to hurry-up-and-die.

I think there was maybe a bit of that in all the 9/11 hijackers, and Mousaoui as well -- i.e., the 9/11 guys did a lot to bring attention to themselves, but the various US authorities always seemed to look the other way.

4 posted on 08/22/2003 8:49:49 AM PDT by WL-law
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To: Sub-Driver
I keep thinking these are tests designed to measure current security practices. We keep seeing groups of Arab/Islamic men getting caught in obviously suspicious activities. Asking for permission to enter the perimeter of a nuclear facility for a stroll on the beach? Come on...
5 posted on 08/22/2003 8:51:59 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Sub-Driver; All
'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629
6 posted on 08/22/2003 8:52:14 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com ..)
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To: Sub-Driver
Good job, RCMP! These suspects obviously weren't too bright, asking to enter a nuclear site to 'take a walk on the beach', but it does show that folks are paying attention. It's encouraging to see that common sense still exists amongst the Canadian people - in spite of the Chretien government.
7 posted on 08/22/2003 8:54:57 AM PDT by SolutionsOnly
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To: SolutionsOnly
The key to getting into Canada as an immigrant is you have to fall into one of 3 groups called the 3 T's

Tits
Turban
Tanned

Bonus points for being in 2 or more of the 3 T's

That being said, I have friends in Canada that fall into the 3 T's but they are living in Canada because they are sick and tired of the same old crap that goes on in the country that they came from, they are educated and hard working and are not looking for a government hand out.

8 posted on 08/22/2003 9:04:44 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: per loin
Please fill me on on '19' in the Koran.
9 posted on 08/22/2003 9:06:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SolutionsOnly
The head of the RCMP is appointed by the PM and RCMP investigations into government crimes rarely result in anyone being charged with anything, but for most other things they don't do too bad.

CSIS on the other hand is a purely political organization that is too PC to be of any use in defending Canada. That's why an RCMP guy did an end run around CSIS to alert the CIA of a potential terrorist last month.
10 posted on 08/22/2003 9:08:03 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
The 3rd Caliph, Uthman or Osman, apparently hired what were then mathematicians to put the Quran in some kind of order - before then it was just collections of poetry with no order - the mathematicians supposedly deleted enough and added enough to make the number 19 very special to the Quran - an Islamic reformer named Rashad Khalifa wrote books about it, and translated the Qoran himself to explain the mathematical ideosynchacies(sp) of the Quran ("Quran the Final Testament."

Khalifa was murdered about 11 years ago, supposedly by Fuqua, a radical Islamist organization that makes bin Laden look like a puppy dog.
11 posted on 08/22/2003 9:58:33 AM PDT by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost
What wonderful people.
12 posted on 08/22/2003 10:48:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Here's a start:

------------------------------------

SIMPLE FACTS OF THE MATHEMATICAL MIRACLE OF THE QURAN

Like the Quran itself, the Quran's mathematical Miracle ranges from the very simple ,
to the very complex. The simple facts are those observations that can be
ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a
calculator or a computer.

The following facts do not require any tools to be verified,
but please remember they all refer to the original Arabic text:

1- The first verse 1:1 known as "Basmalla" consists of 19 letters.

2-This verse was revealed to Muhammed after 74:30, which states
"Over it is 19". not a coincidence.

3-The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is 19X6.

4-The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or 19X334 (6234 numbered
verses and 112 unnumbered verses (Basmalla). 6234+112=6346. notice also that
6+3+4+6= 19

5-The Basmalla occurs in the Quran 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence
from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) and 114 = 19 X 6

6-From the missing Basmalla of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalla of Sura 27, there are
precisely 19 Suras.

7-It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 9+10+11+12..... . +26+27)
is 342, or 19X 18

8-This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmallas of
sura 27. and 342 = 19X18

9-The famous first revelation (96:1-5) consists of 19 words.

10-This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters, & 76=19X4

11-Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of 19 verses.

12-This first Chronological sura is placed atop the last 19 suras.

13-Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters and 304 = 19X16

14-The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of 19 words.

15-14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (Such as
A.L.M., of 2:1) and prefix 29 suras.These numbers add up to 14+14+29=57 19 X 3

16-The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic initials occur is

2+3+7....+50+68=822, and 822 +14 (14 sets of initials)=836 =19X44

17-Between the first intialed Sura (Sura 2) and the last intialed Sura (Sura 68)
there are 38 un-initialed suras , 38=19X2

18-Between the first and last initialed sura there are 19 sets of alternating
"initialed" and "uninitialed" Suras,

19-The Quran mention 30 different whole numbers throughout,
1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,19,20,30,40,50,60,70,80,99,100,200,300,1000,2000,
3000,5000,50,000, & 100,000.
The sum of these numbers is 162146 = 19X8534

The following 2 facts may need some help with a calculator.

20- The word God (ALLAH) occurs throughout the Quran in its 114 Suras
2698 times and 2698= 19X142.

21-The number of verses where the word God occurs add up to 118123
also a multiple of 19, = 19X6217

22-The Quran's dominant message is that there is only "ONE GOD"
The word 'One", in Arabic "Wahid" in reference to God occurs 19 times
throughout the Quran.

23-The word "Wahid" itself, (one) has a numerical value of 19.
W=6, A=1, H=8, D= 4. These are a well known values.

24-The word "Quran" occurs in the Quran 58 times, with one of them referring to
"another Quran" in 10:15, therefore, if excluded, the frequency of "this Quran" in
the Quran is 57, or 19X3

25- The first Pillar of Islam is stated in 3:18 as "La Elaaha Ella Hoo".(There is no
other God besides Him). This most important expression occurs in 19 suras.


13 posted on 08/22/2003 10:21:50 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
More on that here
14 posted on 08/22/2003 10:24:00 PM PDT by per loin
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...RCMP - O Division (Toronto, Ontario)
15 posted on 08/22/2003 10:41:11 PM PDT by Consort
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To: per loin
Now I understand where Disco Louie gets his numerology...
16 posted on 08/23/2003 9:27:18 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: per loin
Hardly a miracle.
17 posted on 08/23/2003 9:29:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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