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"These women are in such a difficult position. Nobody would want to be in their shoes," says Katherine Rachlin, a clinical psychologist and gender specialist in Greenwich Village. ...

"At any stage, they can be beaten up by customers, by lovers, by family members," says Rachlin. "And some of them don't feel the need to disclose because they have a sense of rightness: They are female regardless of their body and regardless of what anyone else says. I'm overgeneralizing here, but for a transgender woman to tell a man that she is a male goes against everything in yourself. So they use their own moral compass, they decide how to handle the situation. There's not a right or wrong answer here."

1 posted on 08/22/2003 5:58:42 AM PDT by mountaineer
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There is right and wrong. Perverts make me want to throw up!
2 posted on 08/22/2003 5:59:41 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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"These women are in such a difficult position. - You cannot change chromosomes from an xy to an xx, men are men, women are women. never the 2 will change. Nobody would want to be in their shoes," </i. - That's for sure, they need help badly says Katherine Rachlin, a clinical psychologist and gender specialist in Greenwich Village. ...

There's not a right or wrong answer here.

Yes, there is! God is the creator of absolutes. Man/Woman, Right/Wrong...To think otherwise makes a mockery out of God.

6 posted on 08/22/2003 6:08:33 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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Here's an important cause: making life easier for transgender prostitutes.

Apparently men who pay for sex with streetwalkers at 3 AM get extremely angry when they learn that that the person who just performed a sex act on them was not actually a woman.

Obviosly what we need is federal funds for a sensitivity training class for johns, so that they'll be more accepting of being duped by transgender prostitutes.

7 posted on 08/22/2003 6:09:06 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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You forgot the obligatory photo!


10 posted on 08/22/2003 6:11:30 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (I seem to be the source of gravity, everything seems to fall on me....)
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To: mountaineer
They are female regardless of their body and regardless of what anyone else says.

In other words, they're completely delusional.

But now the push is on to force everyone to play "Let's Pretend" right along with these freaks. Sorry, I am not playing.

11 posted on 08/22/2003 6:11:49 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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This person's decision to support herself through criminal activity is what exposes her to physical risk. She should change that now.

I'm sure this thread will provoke a lot of chest-thumping about perverts and gays but it needs to be recognized that some people are not clearly male or female at birth. Sometimes the confusion is physical structure, sometimes it is psychological but it is real, rare but real. We are not all neatly divided into two groups. Once you actually know someone who is in this middle state and come to understand their situation you realize how lucky you are to be "normal".

13 posted on 08/22/2003 6:22:14 AM PDT by muir_redwoods
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15 posted on 08/22/2003 6:27:54 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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Let's see - we're talking about a two-fer: prostitution and transgenderism. Mix the two and you're a walking target.

Just damn.

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20 posted on 08/22/2003 6:30:41 AM PDT by mhking
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Law of the harvest still in effect - you will always reap what you sew.
26 posted on 08/22/2003 6:35:47 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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because they have a sense of rightness
They are female regardless of their body
they use their own moral compass
There's not a right or wrong answer

These people are very confused, and need to seek counselling

27 posted on 08/22/2003 6:37:23 AM PDT by bird4four4
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Just because a man dressed up as a woman or mutilates his body does NOT make him a woman. This is nonsense. I bet you if these men lived under the Taliban where they can't dress up as sluts they would not have an urge to declare they are female.
31 posted on 08/22/2003 6:40:51 AM PDT by Dante3
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bump
33 posted on 08/22/2003 6:47:03 AM PDT by expatguy
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Nobody would want to be in their shoes

And it's so hard to find a nice pump in size 12 triple-E.

35 posted on 08/22/2003 6:57:22 AM PDT by Sender
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"At any stage, they can be beaten up by customers, by lovers, by family members," says Rachlin. "And some of them don't feel the need to disclose because they have a sense of rightness: They are female regardless of their body and regardless of what anyone else says. I'm overgeneralizing here, but for a transgender woman to tell a man that she is a male goes against everything in yourself. So they use their own moral compass, they decide how to handle the situation. There's not a right or wrong answer here."

Must be the pay and working conditions that draw them in.

44 posted on 08/22/2003 8:51:16 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Look, guys who go for prostitutes are not the most moral people in the world. To make a living that way is asking for trouble whether you're "real" or not.
45 posted on 08/22/2003 9:24:25 AM PDT by Keyes2000mt
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For Transgenders, Meaner Streets

It should read “For Prostitutes”

50 posted on 08/22/2003 10:28:21 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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52 posted on 08/22/2003 10:33:07 AM PDT by putupon (I'm doing the best I FReeping can under the circumstances!)
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I'm sorry, but I can find nothing in this story that would make me feel sorry these people. They, male or female, have chosen their own life-style or as my Momma use to say "They made their own beds, now they have to lie in it."

The possibilities for education and a job that is not demeaning are there. Why they won't take advantage of it, I don't know.

No, I pity them - not feel sorry for them.
62 posted on 08/24/2003 10:03:21 AM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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