Alan Keyes on Hannity and Colmes LIVE THREAD

[VeryUnprogressive]

Alan Keyes smoking Alan Colmes over the Alabama Ten Commandments issue! Tune in!

[deport]

This separates Keyes and Bush, and perhaps it's what differentiates our opinions about the two.

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Yep that is why one is the leader and the other is the malcontent snipping like a little cur dog. One can achieve leadership and one can only wish...

[Dutchgirl]

Why don't we draft him to replace Graham in the next election? Surely he can become a Florida resident ( a la hitlery) - in time for the next election?

Then we could have a senator that does not induce vomiting when appearing on c-span... or "Meet the Depressed"

[A Citizen Reporter]

"This separates Keyes and Bush,"

That and roughly 100 million votes.

[RLK]

I think W did the best he could...

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For a person with little talent or inclination.

[Miss Marple]

Ah, RLK's obligatory insult about President Bush. Now the thread is complete!

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Jefferson's knowledge of ancient England meshed with the knowledge of his times."

Jefferson's knowledge of ancient England was clearer than ours, or so it seems.

And I haven't quite bought into the whole "Brits are the lost tribes of Judea" thing yet, even if Celtic and Aramaic mesh so perfectly.

[comnet]

Bill Federer’s American Minute:
August 21, 2003
Born in Scotland, he was one of only six founding fathers to sign both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. President George Washington appointed him a Justice on the Supreme Court. One of the most active members at the Constitutional Convention, he spoke 168 times. His name was James Wilson and he died this day, August 21, 1798. The first law professor of the University of Pennsylvania, James Wilson wrote: "It should always be remembered, that this law, natural or revealed, flows from the same divine source; it is the law of God.... Human law must rest its authority, ultimately, upon the authority of that law, which is divine."

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Here, take the True Conservative test:

Sitting in your chair, make clockwise circles on the floor in front of you with your right foot.

Now as you do that, tilt yourhead back, reach up high with your right hand and draw the figure "6" in the air.

What happened to your foot?

Let me know, and I'll grade you.

[Amelia]

You (and seemingly the other detractors) view Keyes' unwavering conservative positions, and refusal to capitulate on principle as a negative attribute, something that makes him "unelectable" "divisive" and therefore not a welcome, or electable, member of the GOP.

Keyes is entertaining, and he's a great orator, but he's not electable, because he "doesn't play well with others".

When Keyes was campaigning for president, he said many things, and most of them sounded really nice -- but all of us, if we were honest, knew that (1) he didn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell of being elected, and (2) even if he was, he stood an even smaller chance of getting his proposals through Congress.

.......a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more: it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
(Shakespeare, MacBeth)

[Luis Gonzalez]

First Fred Mertz, then RLK...it's not that these anti-Bushies lack a brain, but rather that the one they do have is shared amongst so many!

[Robert_Paulson2]

I TEACH CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND YOU ARE FULL OF HOT AIR!!

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Then take it up with thomas jefferson. As he is the one who said it.
Just because you teach it that way don't make it so... a good teacher knows, they could on occasion have a faulty foundation for their alleged knowledge.

[RedBloodedAmerican]

He's the President of the United States.

What are you?

[RedBloodedAmerican]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day!!

[RedBloodedAmerican]

great orator

And I love spiral sliced ham at Xmas. But it still comes from a pig.

[Imal]

Keyes has smoked Colmes through the first commerical break!

I always wondered what Keyes was smoking...

[Blessed]

Madison would not have disagreed with Patrick Henry's claim that our legal rights were granted by the creator. They disagreed on collecting religous taxes.
Read Madison's words in the document you sited.

1. Because we hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, "that religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence." The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right. It is unalienable, because the opinions of men, depending only on the evidence contemplated by their own minds cannot follow the dictates of other men: It is unalienable also, because what is here a right towards men, is a duty towards the Creator. It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage and such only as he believes to be acceptable to him. This duty is precedent, both in order of time and in degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can be considerd as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governour of the Universe: And if a member of Civil Society, do it with a saving of his allegiance to the Universal Sovereign. We maintain therefore that in matters of Religion, no man's right is abridged by the institution of Civil Society and that Religion is wholly exempt from its cognizance. True it is, that no other rule exists, by which any question which may divide a Society, can be ultimately determined, but the will of the majority; but it is also true that the majority may trespass on the rights of the minority.

2. Because Religion be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body. The latter are but the creatures and vicegerents of the former. Their jurisdiction is both derivative and limited: it is limited with regard to the co-ordinate departments, more necessarily is it limited with regard to the constituents. The preservation of a free Government requires not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained; but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the great Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The People who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are slaves.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"I TEACH CRIMINAL JUSTICE, AND YOU ARE FULL OF HOT AIR!!"

Well folks, if you want to know what's wrong with our Justice system, here's a prime example. This individual teaches our future Judges.

Uhmmm....Ms. Stewart, that was a direct quote from Thomas Jefferson.

Read the text fully, try to comprehend what's being said and WHO IS SAYING IT before posting your next "woopsie".

[Robert_Paulson2]

I keep expecting Askel5 to show up and call Bush evil names...

[RedBloodedAmerican]

I am going to do some research, and seriously attempt to find at least TWO things I agree with Keyes on. I'll get back to you.

[deport]

For a person with little talent or inclination.

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Ahhhhhhh.... but elected