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I do not recommend the book by Stephen Schwartz who is a crypto-Muslim convert and tricks you into accepting one form of Islam for another in his crypto-propaganda book (he praises Mullah ruled Iran for example).

Feel free to add your recommendations.

1 posted on 08/21/2003 1:51:05 PM PDT by Destro
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2 posted on 08/21/2003 1:54:25 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Bump and bookmark.
3 posted on 08/21/2003 1:55:01 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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The Rage and The Pride by Oriana Fallaci

What Went Wrong: Western Impact and Middle Eastern Response by Bernard Lewis

4 posted on 08/21/2003 2:07:43 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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The Crisis of Islam: Holy War and Unholy Terror by Bernard Lewis
5 posted on 08/21/2003 2:21:12 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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I know many Christians believe Revelation has to do with Russia etc.. but it's been my belief for many years that much of Revelation has to do with Islam.
8 posted on 08/21/2003 2:34:35 PM PDT by Zipporah
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The Dream Palace of the Arabs by Fouad Ajami.
9 posted on 08/21/2003 2:35:51 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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I agree with your comments about Schwartz. Spencer's book is excellent. From the standpoint of Muslims who converted to evangelistic Christians, there's "Unveiling Islam" by Ergun and Emir Caner.

For anyone who's read Schwartz's book, I'd recommend Michael Ledeen's "The War Against the Terror Masters" for the real scoop on Iran and the very real anti-US cooperation between Sunnis (Iraq, Saudi Arabia, etc.) and Shiites (Iran) that the State Department and Schwartz insist doesn't exist.

12 posted on 08/21/2003 2:50:04 PM PDT by browardchad
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And also the web site www.faithfreedom.org. Great post.
13 posted on 08/21/2003 3:28:32 PM PDT by ValenB4 (I doubt you're a neocon)
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Thanks, quite valuable, I've bookmarked it.

There was another book called "Dhimmitude" by a female author that was reviewed on FR favorably. Forget the author.

And I recommend :

http://www.answering-islam.org

as the best place on the internet for skeptical information about Islam and Muhammed, etc. Somewhere in that site is a biography of Muhammed written by an English historian of 100 years ago, Muir. Real good, and follows Hadith (this is important because it is what the Islamicist believe Muhammed was):

http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Muir/Life1/index.htm

some great blod-curdling scenes in that book!

It also should be noted that Karen Armstrong is an apologist for Islam with anti-Wetern biases. Her "popular" books are wrong and bad.

14 posted on 08/21/2003 3:33:12 PM PDT by WOSG
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The Closed Circle: An Interpretation of the Arabs by David Pryce-Jones

I have not read this book but have heard good things about it.

16 posted on 08/21/2003 3:34:59 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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Review Later BUMP
17 posted on 08/21/2003 3:56:28 PM PDT by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug, Holier - Than - Thou Socialist)
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A couple of my favorites,

The Closed Circle by David Pryce-Jones - excellent read from the early 1990’s about the nature of the Arab mind and how western principles of culture, freedom and the individual are completely incompatible with the Arabs and Islam.

The Haj – fiction written by Leon Uris about the forming of Israel and the pathetic nature of the Arabs. Slanted by an easy read and informative.

Great list, thanks.

18 posted on 08/21/2003 3:56:33 PM PDT by schu
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I would also highly recommend David Pryce-Jones' book "The Closed Circle, An Interpretation of the Arabs" , now reprinted and available at amazon.com.

You will never read a more powerful, intimately revealing book about Arabs and their culture.

There are so many myths about Arab Muslims' history. Pryce-Jones grew up among the Muslim Arabs, has a deep love for them, but he's one of those people who refuse to accept sentimental deceits in the place of reality.

Bat Ye'Or has written several books on Islam and its treatment of 'infidels'. Every one of her books is packed with specific, brutal, historical information. She is an exacting professional historian, and is another who refuses the mish-mash of sentimental multiculturalism.

I have bought and read nearly all the authors you list, Destro, though there's a couple I haven't read and will now get. Thanks for the post.

(PS....immediately following September 11, I began reading about Islam, which I knew nothing about. I looked everywhere for a copy of Pryce-Jones' book The Closed Circle, but everyone had already sold out their used copies. It was out of print at that time. Finally, I found a copy listed by a little book shop in India and ordered it...paid something like $8 total for the book and shipping. When the postman brought my package to the door, he gave me a very hard looking-over. I quickly explained what the package was, even tore the flimsy paper off to show him. He looked relieved and left. I was so glad he was so alert at that scary time!)

21 posted on 08/23/2003 6:08:52 PM PDT by WaterDragon (America the beautiful, I love this nation of immigrants.)
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Feel free to add your recommendations.

Why in the world would anyone want to discredit an entire religion based on the few wacko radicals, even if there are major elements within the faith that are pure evil? I can't think of a single race, creed, or religion that hasn't currently, or in the past, used the devout to reek havoc on others.

You are what you pretend to despise, a hate monger, whether you like it or not, and I for one couldn't sleep tonight if I let you pass without being exposed in the light, like the vermin you undoubtedly are!

I want this thread to remain so others can read my post and make up their own mind! There is no doubt that you and your comrades would be the first to condemn anyone that would say such things about your faith or race... You sick hypocritical creep!

23 posted on 08/23/2003 8:07:40 PM PDT by carlo3b (http://www.CookingWithCarlo.com)
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Why I Am Not a Muslim by Ibn Warraq

The Quest for the Historical Muhammad by Ibn Warraq (Editor), Ibn Warraq (Translator

What the Koran Really Says, Edited and Translated by Ibn Warraq

Leaving Islam: Apostates Speak Out, Edited by Ibn Warraq

I saw Ibn Warraq (pseudonym) on C-SPAN2 recently. This guy is incredible. He was reading from the last book on the list above. He had to appear wearing large dark glasses and a wig because of a Rushdie-type problem. He has a fascinating website where the statements of people who have left Islam are collected: www.secularislam.org

28 posted on 08/23/2003 10:13:38 PM PDT by wideminded
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The Blight of Asia

By G. Horton

The long out of print, well known book "THE BLIGHT OF ASIA" was published in 1926 in the USA and written by the American General Consul in Smyrna in 1922, who was an eye witness of all the perils of that city and of its Christian inhabitants at the hands of the Muslim Turks. This testimony comes from a high-ranking American diplomat, who served in this capacity in that part of the world for about 30 years, and was therefore a knowledgeable and impartial source.

This book is made available in web format thanks to S. Georgiadis, a Rear Admiral of the Hellenic Navy (Ret). [March 2001]

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34 posted on 08/23/2003 11:17:17 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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43 posted on 08/25/2003 2:57:40 PM PDT by TEXOKIE
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46 posted on 08/27/2003 7:06:33 AM PDT by TEXOKIE
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A great compilation. May I humbly add a great interview done by preacher R.C. Sproul
about Islam (with a Muslim-converted to Christian, IIRC).
It's a good audio series that aired on Sproul's radio show "Renewing Your Mind":

https://ecom.ligonier.org/ecom/product.asp?idProduct=DAR01AC
47 posted on 08/30/2003 8:40:37 AM PDT by VOA
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Smyrna 1922: The Destruction of a City by Marjorie Housepian Dobkin, Marjorie Housepian Dobkin (Introduction), Majorie Housepian Dobkin
48 posted on 08/30/2003 1:27:41 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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