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IBM lays off 15,000, HP 1300 [Outsourcing]
The Register ^ | 8/21/2003 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 08/21/2003 9:44:06 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer

Veteran IBM-watchers know how testing it is to read one of the company's financial statements. In the early days of the cold war, Churchill described the Soviet Union as "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". But compared to earnings releases from companies such as Apple and Sun - who provide terse and lucid declarations - you can be forgiven for thinking of IBM's announcements as a cloud wrapped in a fog containing a temporary heat-haze.

However, this much is clear: IBM has shed 15,000 jobs in the past quarter: 1400 from the microelectronics division and a staggering "14,213 Global Services personnel" in response to "the recent decline in corporate spending on technology-related services". To balance the books, IBM also bunged its recent acquisition, PwC, by almost $400 million.

In an SEC filing posted last week, IBM maintained that demand was strong. So strong, it had to conduct a private pogrom in its own services division. Clearly, something doesn't add up - even by IBM's own admission.

Perhaps an email from a soon-to-be redundant HP employee to The Register sheds some light on the situation. HP announced earnings this week that fell below expectations and added that it would make 1,300 "unexpected" human sacrifices to cover the shortfall. In contrast to previous "sheddings" of fluff in the "labor market", the middle class now feels the pain.

"Sorry but I'm due in early Sunday to train my replacement in Bangalore," the (almost) ex-HPer explained. "It's because of the time difference."

Offshore drilling

Hidden beneath the already hard-to-find news of job cuts is a massive transfer of IT resources to India and China. While only a few years ago we were promised a "Long Boom" of infinite prosperity, by "gurus" such as Wired executive Kevin Kelly, it now appears that every tech job can be cut or outsourced with impunity. Kelly is never happier, by his own admission, than when he's lying down in Pacifica dreaming of insects.

For the rest of us, needs are rather more pressing.

Not to appear to be picking on IBM or HP in particular, there doesn't seem to be a tech job left that's safe.

This has yet to emerge as an election issue, although it represents an assault on middle class expectations that's unparalleled in peacetime. But it is important and needs some context.

As the world's largest democracy, and with a philosophical and scientific tradition that (outside the Muslim world) is second to none, India has every reason to look upon the recent occidental outbreak of what we call "capitalism" as a temporary aberration.

It's worth nothing that in common with his fellow Victorian political economists, Marx found the oriental model so strange that he excluded it from his theories entirely.

But outbreaks of tech independence abound. The People's Republic of China has shown both a cavalier disregard for Western IP (aka "intellectual property") and boasts a proud confidence that its own homegrown talent can transform a pay-for "IP" import into an indigenous social resource. [See Trade Wars II: China shuns Qualcomm - no CDMA tax! - EU frets over China's 3G plan and Motorola gambles big on Linux, Sinocapitalism for more details].

Given China's astonishing historical legacy of engineering excellence, this is far from foolish. Dammit, weren't our kids supposed to bring home the bacon?

On this side of the Gulf, we're sure to hear cries of anguish, as the parents of expensively educated middle-class kids learn that their investment (and, in the US, this can be upwards of $120,000 per child) has gone offshore.

Which brings us to a particularly anxious conundrum. The prosperity that we felt was assured, and by rights, ours in the West no longer belongs to us. Those college dollars look like a poor investment, when a cleverer Indian can perform the same task for a tenth of the salary. So why did we spend all that money? Who, at what point, added enough "value" to justify the investment?

It's a good question. In a historical perspective the Indian, Muslim and Chinese engineers whose forefathers created so much of this intellectual infastructure are only reaping their due rewards. For Western kids, however, this does seem a bum deal. "Weren't we supposed to be clever[-er] than everyone else?" a recent graduate asked me recently. Well, er, actually no.

Smarts is as smarts gets.

Forget your O'Reilly PERL course, and follow the money. A course in Mandarin or Arabic is probably the shrewdest investment a parent can make right now.

Go west, my son... and then keep going

The inexorable logic of digital capitalism has rewarded companies such as Dell, which add no value, and pare costs to the bone, and ruthlessly punished systems companies such as Sun and Apple, which invest in R&D. For reasons best known to themselves, these companies invest in the hard stuff that can't easily be commoditised. Logic suggests that such companies are the bulwark against copy-cat Oriental opportunism.

While you might think much of the above is facetious, the West faces a very real problem: we have a surfeit of well educated kids who, if we accept the orthodoxies of asset-stripping capitalism, simply can't compete with foreign competitors without tilting the playing field.

When capitalism went digital, the first casualties were manual laborers. Now that skilled engineering jobs are being transferred offshore, the middle class is in the firing line, and this poses a very real crisis for a large and not-entirely unimportant section of society. Go to college, learn tech skills and - oops, sorry - you're job has just gone offshore. Please accept this redundancy slip and some small token that your worthless (hard-earned) contribution has enriched the global economy. Or as the creepier types insist, the global "eco-system".

Technology once promised us vistas of endless prosperity, and saw itself aloof from the obligations of political economy or globalisation. Now these pigeons are coming home to roost, and "technology" is more of a liability than it is a blessing.

It's dry, academic stuff to be sure. But when jobs are being lost on such an extraordinary scale, scarcely reported, is there a politician bold enough even to raise the issue?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: hp; ibm; outsourcing
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To: swarthyguy
"You need two?"

I guess it would depend on the size of the object in question...

Further, I call dibs on helping Ann coulter and/or Sandra Bullock when and if they need help in finding theirs!

261 posted on 08/21/2003 12:14:50 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: theDentist
Actually I remember reading that Canucks are heading down south for dentistry work cause they have to spend too long for crappy nationalized, government sponsored work. So, I guess they are outsourcing their uh tooth jobs to us!
262 posted on 08/21/2003 12:16:14 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Would someone please tell me what's attractive about Ann Coulter? Is it what he spouts? Is it that she needs a bridle? What?
263 posted on 08/21/2003 12:16:37 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9; harpseal
Here's some contrary news about Intel hiring again: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/968061/posts
264 posted on 08/21/2003 12:20:40 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: warchild9
Q: Would someone please tell me what's attractive about Ann Coulter.
A:Blonde, slim, great hair, great figure, great mind, great views.
265 posted on 08/21/2003 12:21:53 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: warchild9
"Is it that she needs a bridle?"

Hmmm can't see that one in my mind's eye...

Instead, toss in a pair of thigh-high black leather boots and a riding crop.... well now that is a definite ye haaaaa!

266 posted on 08/21/2003 12:24:06 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (French: old Europe word meaning surrender)
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To: Tokhtamish
Obviously you did not grow up in a blue collar neighborhood in the industrial Northeast in the 60's. Obviously you don't know anyone who did. Obviously you did not have aunts and uncles who were blue collar working class in the 60's. Obviously you have never driven through the run down neighborhoods of Northern cities, neighborhoods that you can clearly see were nice 40 years ago but whose economic base was destroyed by deindustrialization.

Oh, I've seen them. But they definitely weren't "destroyed" by deindustrialization. I'm sorry you blame the loss of faith in Jesus Christ in the black communities on economics. That might be part of the overall problem.

267 posted on 08/21/2003 12:24:11 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: Cronos
Fake blonde, skinny as a rail, and the usual "Clinton and media bad! Bad!" that we can hear from a dozen others.
I mean, like, Raquel Welch...Ann Coulter. Huh?
268 posted on 08/21/2003 12:24:45 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
Now that skilled engineering jobs are being transferred offshore, the middle class is in the firing line, and this poses a very real crisis for a large and not-entirely unimportant section of society.

Which is why the country must be totally, completely, absolutely disarmed. Hence, the relentless erosion of the Second Amendment by Democrats and Republicans alike.

It's dry, academic stuff to be sure. But when jobs are being lost on such an extraordinary scale, scarcely reported, is there a politician bold enough even to raise the issue?

No. There's too much corporate money in it for both sides to do little more than roll over, play dead, and sell out the very citizens they are sworn to serve.

269 posted on 08/21/2003 12:26:03 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: y2k_free_radical
If this many conservatives are P.O.'ed about this ,how will BUSH carry the middle ground independents

You make the mistake of assuming that these are conservatives.

270 posted on 08/21/2003 12:26:34 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
My DH's last day is Sept 30 ... resumes going out the door now.
271 posted on 08/21/2003 12:30:40 PM PDT by zeaal
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To: lelio
If you don't mind worshipping a cow, wondering what the quality of your water is, and if Pakistan is going to drop a nuke on you, I hear India is hiring.

That's the good news. The bads new is they're not hiring Americans.

272 posted on 08/21/2003 12:34:15 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum
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To: Texas_Dawg
And another piece of non doom and gloom news Hints of optimism point to (economic) rebound
273 posted on 08/21/2003 12:34:21 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: Cronos
And another piece of non doom and gloom news Hints of optimism point to (economic) rebound

It's all a big government lie. We're all doomed, especially urban union blacks.

274 posted on 08/21/2003 12:35:28 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: swarthyguy
>>...how many Indians have you known who can find their ass with both hands?

>Most people find it with one hand.

I've heard that some people stick one hand in "a hole in the ground" (for comparison), while the other hand is free to search.

275 posted on 08/21/2003 12:38:09 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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To: searchandrecovery
Strange tag: "America will not exist in 25 years". What's gonna be there then? Kalifornistan, Texania and the unlit east?
276 posted on 08/21/2003 12:40:18 PM PDT by Cronos (Reagan waz best, but Dubya's close!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
How silly you are.

Economics has everything to do with how you view the world. You, for instance, talk like a gated community. Yours is the fat cat conservatism of a 1935 Liberty Leaguer, of offshore money. A sure fire election day loser in hard times.
277 posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:16 PM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: lelio
With 6.5% inflation over 40 years $2018 becomes $26974. To be 2.5x as bad, inflation will only have to creep up to 8.6% for the 1960 salary of $2k to be worth $54k.

But that's really mental masturbation over compound interest. The real world is a lot different.

True, but the inflation rate is a terrible way to measure that because it does not account for substitution. A better way is via the CPI. Using the CPI inflation calculator you can see that $1 in 1960 was the equivalent of $6.08 in 2002. So whereas per capita take-home income is 12 times higher today, the dollar has only lost 6 times its value. (Again, not to mention all the amazing technologies in education, travel, entertainment, etc. that we have today that we didn't have then.)

278 posted on 08/21/2003 12:48:16 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: Texas_Dawg
You make the mistake of assuming that these are conservatives.

And they voted for Bush, putting him in office by 500 votes. What does he think the outcome will be in '04 with this base looking to the other side for answers?
One can say "they're just nuts thinking the dems can fix this" Well maybe they are. But do their reasons matter? No, just the single vote does.
279 posted on 08/21/2003 12:51:20 PM PDT by lelio
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To: Tokhtamish
Economics has everything to do with how you view the world. You, for instance, talk like a gated community. Yours is the fat cat conservatism of a 1935 Liberty Leaguer, of offshore money. A sure fire election day loser in hard times.

Are we talking economic efficacy of tariffs and trade protectionism or political expediency? Two very different topics. I understand why Bush has passed so many trade protection and subsidy measures. Pure politics, and if he judges that necessary, fine. Funny though that even though he has been much more economically in line with you on trade, your side of this is the one screaming at him and that hates him, yet my side generally supports him. Then again, my side doesn't normally look to cut off its nose to spite its face like the Buchanan Brigade and its sympathizers.

280 posted on 08/21/2003 12:51:32 PM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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