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IBM lays off 15,000, HP 1300 [Outsourcing]
The Register ^ | 8/21/2003 | Andrew Orlowski

Posted on 08/21/2003 9:44:06 AM PDT by ZeitgeistSurfer

Veteran IBM-watchers know how testing it is to read one of the company's financial statements. In the early days of the cold war, Churchill described the Soviet Union as "a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma". But compared to earnings releases from companies such as Apple and Sun - who provide terse and lucid declarations - you can be forgiven for thinking of IBM's announcements as a cloud wrapped in a fog containing a temporary heat-haze.

However, this much is clear: IBM has shed 15,000 jobs in the past quarter: 1400 from the microelectronics division and a staggering "14,213 Global Services personnel" in response to "the recent decline in corporate spending on technology-related services". To balance the books, IBM also bunged its recent acquisition, PwC, by almost $400 million.

In an SEC filing posted last week, IBM maintained that demand was strong. So strong, it had to conduct a private pogrom in its own services division. Clearly, something doesn't add up - even by IBM's own admission.

Perhaps an email from a soon-to-be redundant HP employee to The Register sheds some light on the situation. HP announced earnings this week that fell below expectations and added that it would make 1,300 "unexpected" human sacrifices to cover the shortfall. In contrast to previous "sheddings" of fluff in the "labor market", the middle class now feels the pain.

"Sorry but I'm due in early Sunday to train my replacement in Bangalore," the (almost) ex-HPer explained. "It's because of the time difference."

Offshore drilling

Hidden beneath the already hard-to-find news of job cuts is a massive transfer of IT resources to India and China. While only a few years ago we were promised a "Long Boom" of infinite prosperity, by "gurus" such as Wired executive Kevin Kelly, it now appears that every tech job can be cut or outsourced with impunity. Kelly is never happier, by his own admission, than when he's lying down in Pacifica dreaming of insects.

For the rest of us, needs are rather more pressing.

Not to appear to be picking on IBM or HP in particular, there doesn't seem to be a tech job left that's safe.

This has yet to emerge as an election issue, although it represents an assault on middle class expectations that's unparalleled in peacetime. But it is important and needs some context.

As the world's largest democracy, and with a philosophical and scientific tradition that (outside the Muslim world) is second to none, India has every reason to look upon the recent occidental outbreak of what we call "capitalism" as a temporary aberration.

It's worth nothing that in common with his fellow Victorian political economists, Marx found the oriental model so strange that he excluded it from his theories entirely.

But outbreaks of tech independence abound. The People's Republic of China has shown both a cavalier disregard for Western IP (aka "intellectual property") and boasts a proud confidence that its own homegrown talent can transform a pay-for "IP" import into an indigenous social resource. [See Trade Wars II: China shuns Qualcomm - no CDMA tax! - EU frets over China's 3G plan and Motorola gambles big on Linux, Sinocapitalism for more details].

Given China's astonishing historical legacy of engineering excellence, this is far from foolish. Dammit, weren't our kids supposed to bring home the bacon?

On this side of the Gulf, we're sure to hear cries of anguish, as the parents of expensively educated middle-class kids learn that their investment (and, in the US, this can be upwards of $120,000 per child) has gone offshore.

Which brings us to a particularly anxious conundrum. The prosperity that we felt was assured, and by rights, ours in the West no longer belongs to us. Those college dollars look like a poor investment, when a cleverer Indian can perform the same task for a tenth of the salary. So why did we spend all that money? Who, at what point, added enough "value" to justify the investment?

It's a good question. In a historical perspective the Indian, Muslim and Chinese engineers whose forefathers created so much of this intellectual infastructure are only reaping their due rewards. For Western kids, however, this does seem a bum deal. "Weren't we supposed to be clever[-er] than everyone else?" a recent graduate asked me recently. Well, er, actually no.

Smarts is as smarts gets.

Forget your O'Reilly PERL course, and follow the money. A course in Mandarin or Arabic is probably the shrewdest investment a parent can make right now.

Go west, my son... and then keep going

The inexorable logic of digital capitalism has rewarded companies such as Dell, which add no value, and pare costs to the bone, and ruthlessly punished systems companies such as Sun and Apple, which invest in R&D. For reasons best known to themselves, these companies invest in the hard stuff that can't easily be commoditised. Logic suggests that such companies are the bulwark against copy-cat Oriental opportunism.

While you might think much of the above is facetious, the West faces a very real problem: we have a surfeit of well educated kids who, if we accept the orthodoxies of asset-stripping capitalism, simply can't compete with foreign competitors without tilting the playing field.

When capitalism went digital, the first casualties were manual laborers. Now that skilled engineering jobs are being transferred offshore, the middle class is in the firing line, and this poses a very real crisis for a large and not-entirely unimportant section of society. Go to college, learn tech skills and - oops, sorry - you're job has just gone offshore. Please accept this redundancy slip and some small token that your worthless (hard-earned) contribution has enriched the global economy. Or as the creepier types insist, the global "eco-system".

Technology once promised us vistas of endless prosperity, and saw itself aloof from the obligations of political economy or globalisation. Now these pigeons are coming home to roost, and "technology" is more of a liability than it is a blessing.

It's dry, academic stuff to be sure. But when jobs are being lost on such an extraordinary scale, scarcely reported, is there a politician bold enough even to raise the issue?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: hp; ibm; outsourcing
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To: Texas_Dawg
Cuba and Vietnam "guarantee" jobs to people

Statistics show they don't guarantee jobs to everyone.
121 posted on 08/21/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Texas_Dawg
Are we all doomed?

Every man that lives will die it is part of the way of life.

Come on you can do better try harder.

122 posted on 08/21/2003 10:44:40 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
It was not "idle chit chat in a restaurant." It was two laid-off IBM'er's ranting. You've obviously never known any IBM'ers. The ol-timers tend to treat that company as they would their parents, and they get very vocal when mom and dad kick them out of the house. As it were.
123 posted on 08/21/2003 10:45:42 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: hedgetrimmer
Statistics show they don't guarantee jobs to everyone.

No kidding!! Good work!

Your tariffs attempting to guarantee jobs to people don't guarantee jobs either! Can you follow this?

124 posted on 08/21/2003 10:46:00 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
That means everyone else pays for it. No way

I have actually read an idea regarding risk management that could include livlihood insurance. For example an individual could buy a policy against an erosion of income of people in his occupation, against erosion of income of people with his characteristics (in terms of job history or education.)

It is an intersting book and the author puts forward a lot of "outside" the box ideas regarding dealing with the risks that we face and how to deal with them without government intervention, droves of people living in poverty and at the same time not discouraging people from taking the kind of risk that could lead to great success stories.

125 posted on 08/21/2003 10:46:00 AM PDT by riri
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To: ladysusan
It's hard enough in the best of times, and baby, these ain't the best of times.

When were times better?

126 posted on 08/21/2003 10:46:45 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (I will not rest until every "little man" is destroyed.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
If nothing else, it motivated my father-in-law to become wealthy after his arrival here in the U.S. He started with 26 cents, two kids and a pregnant wife, and no English. He's an awesome, intimidating--but unbelievably honest--man.
127 posted on 08/21/2003 10:47:32 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Texas_Dawg
Why have you never anything of value to add to this subject aside from Ayn Rand libertarian arrogance ?

However clever you may think you are, if the GOP takes your position get ready for New Deal II.
128 posted on 08/21/2003 10:48:49 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: ladysusan
They invested so they can become their own CEO's!

Why should they expect a government under a Constitution that sets forth the requirement that our government work toward a "more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity" to actually do any of that out-of-date nonsense.

[/free traitors]
129 posted on 08/21/2003 10:48:49 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Willie Green for President...)
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To: Texas_Dawg
As a self-proclaimed supporter of capitalism and freemarkets, you think people "give" 300 million bucks away with nothing expected in return?
130 posted on 08/21/2003 10:48:58 AM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: hedgetrimmer
In Cuba, people stand in long lines with plastic buckets for their monthly beer ration. Only about half the line gets any, and the rest go home pasively. Castro is smart, in that he lets the malcontents leave every now and then, and what's left is willing to stand in line.
There's a lesson there.
131 posted on 08/21/2003 10:50:23 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Lazamataz
Where do we gain that 20% and how long do you expect it to stay "on-shore"?
132 posted on 08/21/2003 10:50:23 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Willie Green for President...)
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To: LibertyAndJusticeForAll
The poster said the article was jusified by what he heard in a restaurant. I still don't see in the article this thread is based on where the 1,300 jobs are being replaced with foreigners.
133 posted on 08/21/2003 10:50:23 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: warchild9
W can't tell business who to hire and who they can't hire.
134 posted on 08/21/2003 10:50:59 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Lazamataz
Thank the Open Source folks for driving down the costs.
135 posted on 08/21/2003 10:51:14 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican (flame suit ON)
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To: swarthyguy
For years I've debated all those smug, arrogant white collar free traders who thought they were immune. Little did they realize that all those nasty factory jobs supported a whole host of jobs like engineers, accountants, mgt., etc. plus numerous service companies in the surrounding community. I do feel sorry for their plight......but not that sorry.
136 posted on 08/21/2003 10:51:42 AM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: KevinDavis
W can stop using our tax money to subsidize his suit buddy's risk in doing so. He won't, to the tune of three hundred million dollars and growing.
137 posted on 08/21/2003 10:52:52 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: Lazamataz
There is no reason to believe that we can retain the "more interesting stuff".

The whirlwind technological change of the 90's, when everything changed every four years has stopped. I don't see people shifting to .NET. They are staying with Visual Stuudio 6.0. So it has become a commodity.
138 posted on 08/21/2003 10:52:52 AM PDT by Tokhtamish
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To: ZeitgeistSurfer
It's dry, academic stuff to be sure. But when jobs are being lost on such an extraordinary scale, scarcely reported, is there a politician bold enough even to raise the issue?

Answer: No. Politicians avoid confrontation. The only reason that this transfer of wealth (IP and jobs) is possible is that U.S. politicians aid and abet it via public policy. It doesn't take a trade war to protect intellectual property. It doesn't require tariffs to protect American labor.

It just requires courage, selflessness (i.e. resisting lobbyists), and a belief and dedication U.S. Constitutional law. In other words, you have to believe in America, and believe in supporting Americans (i.e. the individuals, not unions or organizations), and most U.S. politicians (i.e. all Democrats, and many Republican RINOs) simply don't. They see the loss of IP and jobs as something "rich and spoiled" Americans somehow deserve. In their popular view, Americans have too much, and these "developing" nations deserve something too. "Spread the wealth" (a.k.a. redistributist policies), even if that means your job, and the economic future of your kids. The answer: "Sorry bud. Wrong time, wrong place. Learn Chinese and Arabic, and get with the new International order of things ..."

And by all means, forget all those old, antequated notions of republican democracy, Freedom, and "the American way".

Excuse me. Break over. I have to get back to training my Indian replacement (...replacement(s); it takes more than one).

SFS

139 posted on 08/21/2003 10:52:57 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: KevinDavis
W can stop using our tax money to subsidize his suit buddies' risk in doing so. He won't, to the tune of three hundred million dollars and growing.
140 posted on 08/21/2003 10:53:00 AM PDT by warchild9
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