[warchild9]

It was not "idle chit chat in a restaurant." It was two laid-off IBM'er's ranting. You've obviously never known any IBM'ers. The ol-timers tend to treat that company as they would their parents, and they get very vocal when mom and dad kick them out of the house. As it were.

[LibertyAndJusticeForAll]

It was not my implication, but the so-called RedBloodedAmerican's. My posting simply validates what you overheard in the restaurant.
IBM is clearly no longer run they way it once was. It no longer deserves any loyalty or admiration. In fact, I it is now a multi-national corporation, not American, and deserves none of the benefits of being an American corporation.