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LBJ was behind JFK's assassination, upcoming book contends
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Aug. 20, 2003 | HYE JEONG

Posted on 08/20/2003 6:18:44 PM PDT by new cruelty

GULFPORT, Miss. - (KRT) - The father of the White House press secretary claims in his upcoming book, "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.," that former President Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Barr McClellan, father of White House press secretary Scott McClellan and Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Mark McClellan, is preparing for a Sept. 30 release of a 480-page book by Hannover House that offers photographs, copies of letters, insider interviews and details of fingerprints as proof that Edward A. Clark, the powerful head of Johnson's private and business legal team and a former ambassador to Australia, led the plan and cover-up for the 1963 assassination in Dallas.

Kennedy was shot and killed while throngs watched his motorcade travel through Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Vice President Johnson was sworn in as president shortly after on Air Force One.

"(Johnson) had the motive, opportunity and means," said McClellan, 63, who was a partner in an Austin law firm that served Johnson. The book, McClellan said in an exclusive interview at his Orange Grove home, is about "(Johnson's) role in the assassination. He was behind the assassination, how he was and how it all developed."

McClellan and his wife have lived in Gulfport since 1998, where his wife's family lives. McClellan consults for some businesses on the Coast and writes books.

McClellan said he includes information in the book that alludes to Johnson's role in the assassination. An example is a story that was told to him by the late Martin Harris, former managing partner at the law firm, as told to Harris by Clark.

McClellan writes in his book that in a 1961 meeting on Johnson's ranch outside Johnson City, Texas, Johnson gave Clark a document that may have helped the assassin:

"Johnson suddenly let Clark go. `That envelope in the car,' he said quietly, almost an afterthought, `is yours.' Stepping toward the car, he muttered, `Put it to good use.' He turned, putting his arms across Clark's shoulders, pulling him along, (and) the two walked toward the convertible.

"As they drove back to the ranch, Clark opened the envelope. It contained the policy manual for protection of the president."

Barry Bishop, senior shareholder of Clark's former law firm, defended the attorney.

McClellan's theory is "absurd," Bishop said over the phone. "Mr. Clark was a big supporter of Mr. Kennedy. The day that President Kennedy was assassinated, there was going to a be a dinner that evening in Texas. Mr. Clark was a co-sponsor of that dinner."

McClellan's book is just one of numerous conspiracy theory books that criticize the conclusion of the FBI's investigation of the assassination, that found that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman.

According to the Warren Commission's 1964 report, "Examination of the facts of the assassination itself revealed no indication that Oswald was aided in the planning or execution of his scheme."

But that hasn't stopped people from writing books that challenge the Warren Commission's findings. Other ideas about who was behind the assassination include U.S. intelligence agents, the Mafia, Nikita Khrushchev, the military-industrial complex and Cuban exiles.

So why should people believe McClellan? What makes his book different?

"The big beauty is, (readers) don't have to believe a word I say," McClellan said. "They can believe the fingerprint examiner. They can believe the exchange of memos and letters."

"The book is the evidence," said Cecile McClellan, McClellan's wife, who has edited much of the book. "When you read that book and look at those exhibits, and say, `Do I believe this?' There it is … It's like (McClellan is) a lawyer presenting this book to the jury. You make your own decision. He's putting it all out there."

The theory that Johnson was involved is "exceedingly unlikely," said John C. McAdams, who is an outspoken supporter of the Warren Commission's findings and teaches a course on the JFK assassination at Marquette University in Milwaukee. "What did he (McClellan) find in the documents, and what does it, in fact, indicate? If he's looking at all the documents everyone else is looking at, I would want to know which documents he's interpreting as L.B.J."

Eric Parkinson, president of Truman Press Inc., the parent company of Hannover House, said the book comes out at a good time.

"Now, 40 years later, it's appropriate that this additional information be brought to light. It (the book) will provide closure for a lot of people."

McClellan began working with Clark in 1966 and said he had no role in the conspiracy. But he did hear rumors about it.

"When I first started work there and was told that Clark was behind the assassination, I didn't believe it. It was, `This guy you really liked, John Kennedy - he was killed by the guy you're working for now.' I think I went into a bad case of denial."

McClellan said he learned of Clark's role several times, from Clark and others in the law firm, including while he was acting as Clark's lawyer. The case involved the 1969 application for Clark to drill an oil well and name it after himself.

At the time, McClellan said he asked Clark about the rumors he had been hearing. He said Clark talked in code, but he said, "He wanted the payoff for it. When you mention Dallas, you were talking about the assassination. We had a discussion about it. That's in the book, pretty much verbatim."

But why didn't McClellan go public with the information back then?

"When you get inside the attorney-client privilege, you find out a whole lot," McClellan said. "At the time I thought everything I learned was privileged. I've since found out that there's no privilege for lawyers who plan crimes," he said, referring to Clark.

McClellan said he left the law firm in 1982 because Clark wanted him to represent a company that would conflict with interests of McClellan's other clients. Then, he said, Clark sued him over a personal loan. McClellan counter-sued. Then the bank holding the loan sued.

"When I found out what they were going to do to me, I got mad. The gloves came off. I said, `Forget it. They're not going to get away with this anymore.'"

But it took years before McClellan was able to publish the book that he said supports his assassination theory.

Finally in 1994, the 14-year legal battle with the lawsuits ended with dismissals. By that time, Clark had been dead for two years.

McClellan said he was trying to get a book out in 1984, while Clark was alive. "He knew I was going public - from the affidavits in one of those three lawsuits," McClellan said. And he said a book agent he approached in 1984 told him to "do an investigation."

So he began.

"I wanted to be comfortable with what I knew," McClellan said. He said it took a long time to verify fingerprints with several experts and to find a publisher.

"A lot of it wouldn't have been available except that old Clark's records" were bequeathed to Southwestern University, McClellan said, making them available for research. Previously "they were stored in his private records. I'm sure if he had thought about it before he died, he would have probably thrown away a few."

McClellan had been writing bits and pieces of the book since he left the law firm. He logged numerous hours of research and 10 researchers helped him, he said.

Supporters and detractors have talked to McClellan about possible repercussions from the book, McClellan said, but he's not losing any sleep.

McClellan said he hasn't had any overt threats. He said people imply retributions, like suggesting that "I'm not going to make it in Austin. `You're going to be out of here.'"

McClellan said at least some in his family accept his work on the book.

"They said, `OK, I guess that's what Dad's doing now,'" McClellan said.

But he said he has not had the chance to ask sons Scott and Mark for their reactions.

"I assume that they know about it," McClellan said. "They know what I'm doing. They're not going to comment on it. The oldest, Mark, was then maybe 15 when I left the law firm."

When asked if he was concerned for the safety of his twin sons, Dudley, an Austin lawyer in private practice, and Bradley, a Texas state associate attorney general, McClellan said: "The Democrats are pretty much out of power, really, in the state of Texas. So as far as Republicans go, they're in good shape. My ex-wife (Carole Keeton Strayhorn) - she's the comptroller of the state of Texas. There's really none of this influence or anything like that."


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To: Shooter 2.5
I never said no ammo existed but that Mr. Greener indicated it was scare and that his shop never sold it. Are you claiming that Western made the ammo for the Italian government?

There is no way of showing that fragments came from any particular rifle. And the Magic Bullet did not cause seven wounds including smashing a rib destroying five inches of bones and lose only 1% of its weight.

On the one hand you claim that the head shot exploded JFK's head because hitting the skull caused the bullet to flatten yet, on the other hand Magic smashed a rib, smashed a wrist and went through seven layers of skin and winds up looking like someone just twisted the bullet out of the shell. Oh, yeah I believe that.

That MC was junk then and junk now. It is no Urban legend. Those who tried to use it were reluctant to do so because they felt it to be unsafe, the sight was junk and not attached properly, the bolt was hard to work and caused the aim to be compromised, the firing pin rusted and it was not the same length as the gun ordered.

I seriously doubt ANY MC sold today is the same as THAT gun so their quality is irrelevent.

Any Enfield sold for that price earlier is probably also junk and suffering from defects as was the MC part of a lot which were sold for $3 each in lots of 25.
621 posted on 09/05/2003 8:17:37 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
For you to peruse: A Critique of The Warren Report
622 posted on 09/05/2003 8:25:28 AM PDT by Tares
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To: Tares
Butch Burroughs sold LHO popcorn shortly after 1.

Jack Davis said LHO sat down next to him while the movie credits were running (before 1:20). He moved and sat next to another man then moved again. Julia Postal was another employee.

There are no statements taken by the WC from Davis. And those from Postal and Burroughs indicate they did not see Oswald enter the theater. Postal says there were 24 tickets sold prior to 1:15.

That is all the info I have so take it or leave it.
623 posted on 09/05/2003 9:29:03 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Tares
What do videos have to do with anything? Postal records are kept of transactions at P.O. Boxes. When I pick up anything at a Post Office I am required to show I.D.s and sign for them. This did not occur with the rifle. No records of a pickup, no witnesses to a pick up. NOTHING.

However, this is standard operating procedure with this investigation. Critical information and evidence is missing time after time. Certain information is revealed but rarely enough to answer any critical questions. Other information contrary to the pre-ordained conclusion or witnesses with contrary information are simply ignored in dozens or hundreds of instances. Then we are buried in irrelevencies and unnecessary details.
624 posted on 09/05/2003 9:35:30 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
None of those required questions have anything to do with proving the rifle was in the bag.

Bolts are well-oiled in all military rifles and soldiers are required to keep them properly cleaned and maintained. It takes a long time for mud or water to remove lubrication.

In this case the bolt was very difficult to operate and it was said to be well-oiled. If it weren't that could explain both the inability to work the bolt properly and the lack of oil stains on the bag. But the experts claim otherwise.
625 posted on 09/05/2003 9:42:48 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: new cruelty
My family (esp. my Dad and Granddad) despised the Kennedys. They read books like "Teddy Bare" which came out after Chappaquiddick (anybody remember that one?!) They would've loved this theory.
626 posted on 09/05/2003 9:46:12 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: aimhigh
Headed off to amazon.com now.
627 posted on 09/05/2003 9:47:13 AM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: justshutupandtakeit
On the one hand you claim that the head shot exploded JFK's head because hitting the skull caused the bullet to flatten yet, on the other hand Magic smashed a rib, smashed a wrist and went through seven layers of skin and winds up looking like someone just twisted the bullet out of the shell. Oh, yeah I believe that.

I'm not even going to bother commenting on this because you have no idea what you're writting. Do some research before you even try to put a sentence together because it's getting more and more apparent you have never fired a rifle in your life.

That MC was junk then and junk now. It is no Urban legend. Those who tried to use it were reluctant to do so because they felt it to be unsafe, the sight was junk and not attached properly, the bolt was hard to work and caused the aim to be compromised, the firing pin rusted and it was not the same length as the gun ordered.

I would suggest you talk to a independent expert before trying to write something. Again, you have no idea what you're writting. By the way, the velocity of the rearward motion of the bolt was sufficient to flatten the mouth of one of the cases. Do some research.

628 posted on 09/05/2003 9:56:25 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
I have fired rifles (.22s, 30.06) and shotguns (12 and 16 gauge) and pistols (.38 Specials, .45s, and .44 Magnums) as well and was actually a good shot. I have shot bolt action and semi-automatic rifles, revolvers and automatic pistols. None of that has anything to do with bullets smashing bones without deformation. As the former Chief Medical Examiner of New York City, Dr. Milton Helpern, said;
"I cannot accept the premise that this bullet thrashed around in all that bony tissue and lost only 1.4-2.4 grains of its original weight. I cannot believe either that this bullet is going to emerge miraculously unscathed, without any deformity, and with its lands and grooves intact...You must remember that next to bone, the skin offers greater resistance to a bullet in its course through the body than any other kind of tissue...This single bullet theory asks us to believe that this bullet went through seven layers of skin, tough, elastic, resistant skin. In addition...this bullet passed through other layers of soft tissue; and then shattered bones!" I am sorry if I prefer the word of a man who had conducted 10,000 autopsies of gunshot victims to yours.

It should also be noted that neither Congressman Hale Boggs, Senator John Sherman Cooper nor Senator Richard Russell (all members of the WC and all hunters) accepted the Magic Bullet theory.

I have seen discussions by many firearm experts indicating the MC advertised by Kleins was crap and I have discussed the rifle and shots with others more expert than I including hunters, shooters and firearm experts. Only defenders of the WC Report claim it was anything but and they cannot explain how it could have been used with that scope or any scope given the treatment it had been subjected to with no opportunity to sight it after reassembly or practice with it before 11/22/63.

Two of the gunshop owners interviewed by the WC say that it was next to impossible for a gun such as the MC (or any gun actually) to have been capable of firing accurately using the scope without adjustment and practice. One of them stresses that merely a slight bump could cause misses by 2 to 3 feet without re-adjustment. Particularly by an average (at best) shot like Oswald.
629 posted on 09/05/2003 10:49:32 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
You have claimed the scope was mounted for a left handed shooter. If your claims of shooting are true, explain what you mean by that scope mount and why you think the mount was created for that purpose.
630 posted on 09/05/2003 11:34:24 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
What do videos have to do with anything? Postal records are kept of transactions at P.O. Boxes. When I pick up anything at a Post Office I am required to show I.D.s and sign for them. This did not occur with the rifle. No records of a pickup, no witnesses to a pick up. NOTHING.

More nonsense from the alimentary canal. I have a PO Box, do you? I have received packages that I have had to pick up at the desk because they are too large to fit in the box. I hand the clerk the yellow card placed in my box to notify me of the package, and the clerk goes in back and gets the package for me. The yellow card is all I need. I do not have to show ID, and I don't have to sign for anything. Not a very memorable event for the clerks. And nobody checks my ID before I place my key in the box and get the mail.

However, this is standard operating procedure with this investigation. Critical information and evidence is missing time after time. Certain information is revealed but rarely enough to answer any critical questions. Other information contrary to the pre-ordained conclusion or witnesses with contrary information are simply ignored in dozens or hundreds of instances. Then we are buried in irrelevencies and unnecessary details.

President Kennedy is dead and buried. Officer Tippit is dead and buried. But the conspiracy theorists live forever, feeding on contrary information, dubious witnesses and irrelevant details, refusing to acknowledge the uncomfortable but unavoidable truth. Instead, they bury it under their odious excretions of conspiracy and pollute the airwaves, leaving Oswald's grave as the only one undisturbed by mountains of crap. Excuse me while I wretch.

631 posted on 09/05/2003 11:49:14 AM PDT by Tares
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Butch Burroughs sold LHO popcorn shortly after 1.

Jack Davis said...

Both Burroughs and Davis waited until the late 1980's to reveal these critical eyewitness accounts. More crap for the mountain.

632 posted on 09/05/2003 11:55:10 AM PDT by Tares
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To: cornelis; betty boop
I don't know what your takes are on the Kennedy assassination, but I believe you will both enjoy reading the article linked to in post 622.
633 posted on 09/05/2003 11:58:13 AM PDT by Tares
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To: Tares
Burroughs was interviewed by the Warren Commission. He seemed to be of limited intelligence having been rejected by the Army for failing its mental tests. He was 22 at the time and finishing high school.

Davis' name was taken by the Police and never interviewed so I can't cast any blame on him there. There were many people who were not interviewed.
634 posted on 09/05/2003 12:37:33 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: Servant of the Nine
I don't know, he could have facilitated the assasination simply through inaction. Why did the motorcade take that turn by the depository? Why were they going slower than normal speed for a motorcade? Why was the security detail reduced that day? There is a still photograph of the faces in the second, enclosed, limo containing the vice-president. They all appear to be grinning.

So many people wanted this man and his brother dead all security had to do was slow down and look the other way.
635 posted on 09/05/2003 12:43:50 PM PDT by BabsC
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To: BabsC
Why did the motorcade take that turn by the depository?

Whoever laid out the original motorcade route was unfamiliar with the road layout at Dealey Plaza. The Triple Underpass is called the Triple Underpass for a reason. There are three distinct travel lanes, separated by raised concrete medians. The original route would have sent the motorcade through the center of the Triple Overpass. The exit to the freeway leading to the Trade Mart is only accessible from the right side of the Triple Underpass. The route the motorcade took was the only way to the Trade Mart that didn't involve driving over curbs.

Why were they going slower than normal speed for a motorcade?

Because President Kennedy requested the motorcade drive slow, so that the people of Dallas could see him better. The Secret Service argued against this, but Kennedy prevailed.

Why was the security detail reduced that day?

Two Secret Service agents normally rode on the back of the Pesidential limo. President Kennedy changed this for the trip through Dallas. Same goes for the bubble top to the limo. Kennedy wanted to be more visible to the spectators.

636 posted on 09/05/2003 1:18:01 PM PDT by Tares
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To: Tares
I have had P.O. boxes in the past decade and was required to give ID and sign for packages.

Perhaps much of the skepticism would be alieviated had the Report not depended upon an event which is UTTERLY unbelievable, the Magic Bullet.

Or if someone could come up with ANY kind of plausible motive for Oswald since everyone who knew him claimed he admired JFK and spoke of it. All the other "lone nut killers" gleefully admitted their actions. Not only did Oswald deny it but his interogators claimed he seemed to have been schooled in the art of resisting interogation. If he wished a place in history by doing this thing why would he not have admitted it? It is a contradiction in the official story which will not go away not something concocted by doubters. Now doubters who concoct false information or make multiple mistakes I have no regard for. But questioners when things do not make sense are doing the right thing by questioning.

Or if so many people were not claiming to have seen, heard or smelled evidence of a shooter on the Knoll.

When there are numerous events that are suspicious such as "Secret Service" agents shooing people such as Gordon Arnold, a young soldier, away from the Knoll area before the shooting, who can blame the public from being skeptical?

The Zapruder film itself is bad enough (I was stunned when I first saw it) but to have Mr. Zapruder himself claim the head shot came from behind him makes it less easy to dismiss the idea of a conspiracy.

Nor does it help when the bodies start piling up and witnesses die at alarming rates. So a Giancana gets bumped off, maybe that is not so strange, but when around the same time Roselli is whacked, de Mohrenschield dies and William Sullivan is killed all right before testifying before the HSCA red flags go up. They aren't lowered when Nicoleti is killed and Richard Cain is killed and they are claimed to have been part of the assassination team. And this is the second round of deaths initially set off by David Ferrie's, Betty Mooney MacDonald, Gary Underhill, Darrell Wayne Garner, Hank Killam, Bill Hunter, Mary Meyer, Jim Koethe, Tom Howard, Rose Cherami, William Whaley, Dorothy Killgallen, Karen Bennett Carlin, Lt. William Pitzer, Eladio del Valle, Dr. Mary Sherman, Clyde Johnson are just some of those associated with the assassination and its figures. The probability of all these deaths being benignly explained is very low and many of them, Roselli, Giancana, Ferrie and del Valle (on the same day) cannot be easily dismissed.

If there were just questions about a few things it would be easy to wave them off but not with hundreds. In fact, there is not ONE element of this case which I can accept at face value.

And this doesn't even get into the Ruby connection.
637 posted on 09/05/2003 1:39:12 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: BabsC
Colonel Fletcher Prouty discusses the collapse of normal security precautions. He mentions the lack of sealed windows along the route, the lack of sharpshooters along the route, the failure to weld shut manholes, and the order for a team of Army security specialists at a nearby military base to stand down rather than go to Dallas.

Prouty was Kennedy's briefing officer and a liason between the CIA and Joint Chiefs.

There had been numerous reports of threats by Mafioso against Kennedy including Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa and Santos Traficante. It is claimed at least two prior plots against JFK had been thwarted: one in Miami and one in Chicago.

Another intriguing tidbit is the fact that the then Mayor of Dallas, Charles Cabel, was the brother of the Cabel who Kennedy had fired from the CIA. Allan Dulles, WC member, had been fired by Kennedy as head of the CIA. Hoover was going to be forced by JFK to retire. Johnson rescinded that order.

The more this mess is examined the worse things look.
638 posted on 09/05/2003 1:49:42 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies foreign and domestic agree. Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have had P.O. boxes in the past decade and was required to give ID and sign for packages.

And so, having yet another conspiracy balloon popped, we get another post throwing out scads of manure. For example:

Nor does it help when the bodies start piling up and witnesses die at alarming rates. So a Giancana gets bumped off, maybe that is not so strange, but when around the same time Roselli is whacked, de Mohrenschield dies and William Sullivan is killed all right before testifying before the HSCA red flags go up. They aren't lowered when Nicoleti is killed and Richard Cain is killed and they are claimed to have been part of the assassination team. And this is the second round of deaths initially set off by David Ferrie's, Betty Mooney MacDonald, Gary Underhill, Darrell Wayne Garner, Hank Killam, Bill Hunter, Mary Meyer, Jim Koethe, Tom Howard, Rose Cherami, William Whaley, Dorothy Killgallen, Karen Bennett Carlin, Lt. William Pitzer, Eladio del Valle, Dr. Mary Sherman, Clyde Johnson are just some of those associated with the assassination and its figures. The probability of all these deaths being benignly explained is very low and many of them, Roselli, Giancana, Ferrie and del Valle (on the same day) cannot be easily dismissed.

Do you know anything more about the people above other than their names and that they are dead? Every single one of their deaths can be plainly explained without resorting to conspiracy theories. Many of the people listed above have nothing to do with the assassination whatsoever. The “mysterious death” list is a joke. The mountain of “evidence” exonerating Oswald is getting smellier by the post.

P.S. You left off a lot of names. Where is Lee Bowers? Albert Bogard? Thomas Davis? Gene Rodenberry? DeForest Kelly? The Klingon High Commander?

Really So Mysterious? "Strange" and "Convenient" Deaths Surrounding the Assassination

639 posted on 09/05/2003 2:30:27 PM PDT by Tares
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To: Tares; justshutupandtakeit
we get another post throwing out scads of manure. For example:

Gene Rodenberry? DeForest Kelly? The Klingon High Commander?

640 posted on 09/05/2003 5:35:17 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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