Clintons and other left-wing liars [what I KNOW about election 2000]

Precinct counts, voting machine data, AP election data, eye-witnesses....etc. | August 20, 2003 | Me

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

As a Florida Republican, I listened to the press lie through the 2000 recounts, pause for an obscenely short time after 9-11, and pick up the refrain - the campaign of lies..."Gore won" "Bush is selected."

Remember when the press "discovered" the old mildly-intoxicated-while-driving Bush "scandal" a week before the election? Coincidentally, earlier that same day, Janet Reno told the press that she would be opening an investigation into Al Gore's pulling the plug on a multi-year drug investigation (after the Houston detectives cried foul at the cover-up) because the #1 suspect made a BIG $$$ donation to Al's campaign. A mob of "mainstream" journalists chased the ancient DUI story. The Washington Times reported the Gore story, too.

When I asked a local SW Florida NBC-TV news manager why the Gore story was being covered-up, following three days of "DUI" coverage into the weekend before election day, this news boss said of the Washington Times, "That right-wing rag?! It's owned by the Moonies." I asked him whether he believed that Janet Reno would grant the Washington Times an exclusive? He conceded the point, but no mention of the Gore story appeared on his news channel or in the mainstream media. No daily reports from NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Times, Boston Globe, NPR + the INTER-national press - or press mobs chasing Gore across parking lots demanding that he spill all.

Can we say "left-wing" media? Popular vote?

Florida Republicans fought the attempted election theft by the Florida Dem. election machine and their army of lawyers who descended on our fair state during election 2000. Surprise, we didn't let them steal the election. We bypassed the DNC press and informed ourselves and our neighbors. We now have the internet, can go directly to sources and share information with neighbors and friends.

 

Two years later: Fla., pre-election 2002:

 

 "Jeb is gone!" Mr. McAuliffe declared brazenly, brushing aside the determination of the White House to protect the president's brother. "There won't be anything as devastating to President Bush as his brother's losing in Florida."    --Terry McAuliffe, DNC Chairman, NY Times, Oct. 23, 2002

 

Dem leaders based election 2002 on the revenge of the disenfranchised Dem 2000 voters.

 

On Nov. 5, 2002, Florida voters, both Republican and Democrat, voted fair and square (again) and 1) re-elected Jeb Bush - first Republican Governor re-elected in Florida's history; 2) elected Katherine Harris to Congress; 3) elected a 100% Republican Cabinet; 4) elected a majority of Republicans to the Florida House;  5) didn't elect Al Gore's Fla. campaign manager and former Fla. A.G. Bob Butterworth or 6) Carol Roberts, Palm Beach County Democrat and election accuser; 7) Republicans took back the federal Senate; 8) Republican Governors won across the nation.

 

After being told by the DNC leaders that Florida voters would turn out in droves to avenge election 2000 - Florida voters did turn out and overwhelmingly validated election 2000.

 

How did the 'unbiased press' deal with this PRO-GOP election?  By giving "we the people" a week of NANCY PELOSI, newly elected Democrat House minority leader.

 

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Some of what the left-wing media left out of the 2000 election re-re-recount coverage:

While the Democrats are still blaming those Votomatic punch card machines (like the one in Palm Beach) for Gore's loss, it was Bush who was hurt in the Votomatic counties...including my Republican Lee County. Impeachment manager Bill McCollum received more votes for Senate than did George W. Bush for President in Lee, Palm Beach, Charlotte counties. Think about that. Voters voted for Bill McCollum and Al Gore?

Oh, and those "hick" counties, the "red" counties in Florida with fewer than 10,000 voters? All but one of those 22 Florida counties voted for BUSH and they are ALL Democrat-majority counties with Dem. election personnel...and ALL recounted (as did EVERY county in Florida (just not 2 or 3 times 'til ballots could be manipulated for Gore))- and the HONEST Democrats in the small Florida counties showed mostly single digit changes in the recounts, mostly insignificant. As a friend said, "my Democratic neighbors are southern Democrats with family values and they don't trust Gore."

Did you hear of a Republican* voting twice? Republican* felons voting in large blocks? Republican* illegal immigrants? Republicans* in nursing homes and hospitals "helping" incompetent patients vote? Republicans* adding non-resident names to the voting rosters at the polling locations? Republicans* poking holes in ballots/ eating chads? Writing books about recounts and how to win elections by manipulating ballots? Did Republicans* have a GOTV center set up in a Palm Beach law office, with "ballot protest" forms and a telecom company (a little bankrupt firm called Telequest that sold to a company from India days later for millions $$), set up in advance, as well as a team of lawyers ready to put the "recount" campaign in place? Did a Republican* lawyer lie about an Illinois "dimple decision" to the national press and in court? Did Republicans* go into the inner cities and tell the voters that George W. Bush would send them back to slavery? Did a Republican* Florida Supreme Court ignore existing state law to allow carefully selected Republican* counties  recounts, and then change the laws as it was necessary to help Republicans*? Did a Republican* send a memo to every one of 67 counties - not based on Florida law - telling poll workers how to disqualify military ballots? Did Republicans* prevent over  500 Florida students from Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's school) from receiving their absentee ballots? Did Republicans* misdirect military mail? Make it exceedingly difficult for military overseas to vote? Did the Republican* press cover up the massive Dem. dirty tricks? Did a Republican* Florida elect our Republican House, Republican Governor and GHW Bush over Bill Clinton in 1992? Is the Republican* press still lying?

No.

* Democrat(s)

The false charge of "racism" was the most destructive lie of all...the DNC knew exactly how that lie would play in the inner cities where they frightened young children and incited hatred. Teachers and parents comforted children who were  terrified that Pres. Bush would make them slaves.

"Racist" Republican Bush was a topic of discussion at the UN conference on racism, where American "civil rights" "leaders" carried out their post-election 2000 campaign of deceit in front of an international audience and sympathetic left-wing press.

Leaders from over 180 nations  listened as speakers railed against the "racist" American leadership during a week of Bush, American and Israel bashing, taking home the message to their respective countries. What enemy of America wouldn't be encouraged by this display of international enmity against US? The UN "racism" conference ended two days before 9-11-01.

Don't bother trying to find this info in America's textbooks, University websites, press accounts. You probably won't find the AP graph showing the before and after recount totals from all 67 Florida counties, and the Palm Beach voting records? Accidentally destroyed.

At the end of the day, election 2002 was the smoking gun that exposed both the lack of gravitas and pattern of deceit by a puffed-up, partisan far-left press, international PR agents of the shady, scheming, mean-spirited socialists, bullies, despots and scoundrels - aka the Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy.

[M Kehoe]

The Miami Herald wrote (Jan 2001), that 19,000 residents (mostly PBC) had dual voter registrations in FL and NY. I wonder how they voted. Not.

5.56mm

[Zman516]

Excellent analysis and summary of RAT & MM lies and deceit.

We have to always remember that the formerly noble American Democratic Party has been hijacked by Communists and Socialists whose primary tools are (and always have been) LIES & DECEIT.

We must be extremely vigilant during this upcoming election cycle to safeguard an honest election. That is the one thing the RATs cannot afford---an HONEST election.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

*** Back at ya! ***

Now the DU visitors can report back to their overlord that gonzo's on the job. (^;

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

they alone are responsible for any and all racial violence, because they and they alone are raising the race issue and engaging in hate speech.

Well said.

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

We must be extremely vigilant during this upcoming election cycle to safeguard an honest election.

Amen. Jim Robinson created a very special election resource w/ Free Republic. This place is amazing during election cycles. Freepers are inspirational.

[Common Tator]

So any vote fraud would have to arise from having lots of phony registered voters that show up at the polls.

Did you ever wonder why inner city precincts even with voting machines don't get counted until the wee hours of the morning? Did you think it strange that the inner city Miami precincts only had Democratic poll workers? Even though the Florida law requires that no more than 60 percent of the poll workers be from the same party?

In Chicago, New York, Philly, Miami, Cleveland, Detroit, and Atlanta .. just to name a few, inner city precincts only have Democratic poll workers. It is against a law that is never enforced. The penalty for being a Republican poll worker is a massive beating by union thugs. It is a painful sight. Republican poll workers for the inner city are very hard to come by and never last the entire election day.

Democrats make a big deal about registering lots of people. Black Pastors are given "walking around" money to register all their congregation and 'hood and most do. They pay the people who register and keep the rest.

Each presiding judge for these precincts is given a list of the margin they need to win the precinct by if their candidate is down by x amount. Let us say the democrat is are down by 2000 votes and the Democrats need 10000 votes to have an uncontested win. Precinct a may need 50 votes more and precinct b may need 40. So the precinct workers vote the registered voters that have not voted.They use TV network reporting to disseminate the information. Gore lost Florida because the inner city Miami precincts believed that Gore had it won. When they have a race won they do not steal votes. There is no purpose and only risk to stealing for a race that is already won. When they lose by a margin greater than they can steal, they do not steal votes either. If they can't steal enough to win, why bother to steal at all is the logic.

Voting registered non voters by precinct workers brings the turn out up from the 40 to 45 range to the 60 or 70 range. But it takes a while to vote all those ballots. That is why the returns from the inner city precincts come in so late. It is done just enough to win close elections and avoid a recount if possible.

One other trick that can be used is to stack a up percentage of the ballots up and run a rod through the Democrat Candidates chad. If the person who used the ballot voted for the Democrat no harm is done, but if the person voted for a Republican or someone else, their ballot becomes a spoiled double marked ballot and will not be counted.

One misconception is that Democrats vote the dead. That is not true. They do keep them on the registration lists if at all possible so the turn out percentages can be made to look reasonable.

The key to stopping fraud is to insure that no more than 60 percent of a precincts poll workers can be from the same party. That is the law in most states but it is openly disobeyed.... as it was in Florida in 2000.

That is the way elections are stolen... They only steal close ones... and that is often enough to keep them in power.

One recent twist is to print out duplicates of the poll lists. With Republicans sniffing around, someday a pubbie might get the bright idea to have a hand writing expert or 3 check the signatures on lists voters must sign before voting. To counter that Democrats have begun getting the computerized signature lists of registered voters by precinct. It is a public record. Pollsters buy them all the time. Then Democrats print the lists voters must sign to vote. Next the preachers have the members of the congregation as well as others in the 'hood come in and sign them and punch a ballot as part of voter education before election day. Those pre signed lists are used on election day.

On election day those who show up to vote sign as usual.. unless they have pre-signed at the church. They keep track of the number of actual voters and count the total signatures when the polls close. They then vote the additional ballots of those that signed but did not show up to vote. Unless you can prove they used the fake list, there is not way to prove fraud. The down side is they must steal votes in every election. The upside is the signatures are valid and NOT FORGED. And how can it be illegal to train folks to vote exactly like it will occur at the polling place?

Most of this is just convenience for Democrats. If it was stopped they would have to get these people to the polls. Cost is a factor. The Democrats would have to pay these people twice.. once for registering an once again if they had to go to the polls to vote. On the up side they would not have to pay the precinct workers nearly as much. By the way the money to pay for this comes from "Voter Education" funds.

Most Voter Education funds come from union dues... but they get substantial donations from other sources as well.

In the 1940's votes were purchased at $2.00 and a double shot of whiskey each. They watered the whiskey. Back then 70,000 votes would be purchased in Ohio for nearly every general election.

In 1972 the Republican Candidate for Ohio Governor, Jim Rhodes, was just barely ahead (a thousand votes or 3)with inner City Cleveland still out. The Democrats typically carried Cleveland by nearly 50,000 votes. Rhodes was an early riser and liked to go to bed early. So about 1:OOAm with Cleveland still out, Rhodes conceded. Al Wallace had to go to Rhodes home in Upper Arlington at about 4 in the morning to wake Jim up. Jim was very surprised when Al told him he had won. Democrat Candidate Gilligan had ticked off the Democratic chairman of Cuyahoga County (Cleveland). The Democrats did not buy a single vote in Cleveland that year. Rhodes carried Cuyahoga county by a few votes in a VERY LIGHT TURN OUT for Cuyahoga County. Hmmmmmm.......... A Republican carrying Cuyahoga county is like the devil Carrying Heaven. It is not real believable.

The Democrats knew that 2000 was going to be very close. I think the media cost Gore the election. If they had declared the Florida for Bush instead of Gore, Gore would be president today.

One thing I have noticed in the Democratic party. Many of the elected officials are unaware of how their own elections are won. The Democrats in congress actually thought CFR would benefit them. The party at the grass roots is run by working class labor unions, but at the candidate level is is run by the elites. This often causes the democratic party to do things that are counter productive.

It is like California's main stream Republicans. They actually think the single issue abortion,and gun rights, Republicans will come out to vote for Arnie if Arnie is the only viable Repubican on the ballot. When there is no one on the ballot who suports their single issue, single issue voters do not vote. That is why they are called single issue voters. And with out the single issue voters, Davis has a shot at winning the recall election.

I think the recall will get tighter as election day nears. It is hard to cry he lied about the deficit when the media says their is no longer a deficit. And it is hard to make charges about the lights going out, when the lights went out in the east this year, but did not go out in Gray Davis's California. That will certainly occur to the majority Democrats and some of the independents.

I have thought that recalling Gray Davis would only allow the Democrats to escape the blame. Note Repubicans is not blaming Democrats. They are blaming Gray Davis.

Blaming Gray Davis for California's problems is only valuable to Republicans if Gray Davis beats the recall.

[Lady Heron]

The key to stopping fraud is to insure that no more than 60 percent of a precincts poll workers can be from the same party. That is the law in most states but it is openly disobeyed.... as it was in Florida in 2000.

So why does the GOP not take the state or the precincts to court for not obeying the law? This will never change unless it is forced to change.

[Common Tator]

So why does the GOP not take the state or the precincts to court for not obeying the law?

The precinct workers argument made by Democratic Heads of the Boards of Elections is always the same. In Florida the woman (I can't recall her name) head of the County Board of Elections reported to the state that no Republicans had aplied for poll worker jobs. She had asked the Republican party to help her get Republican poll workers and non applied as the result of that effort. It was either use Democrats or call off the election, she said... so she used Democrats.

Many Repubicans think there is no corruption because they don't know how it is done. Getting Republicans to volunteer to be precinct workers in an inner city precinct is very hard to do. It is very dangerous and scary. And those that know there is corruption understand that trying to stop it is very dangerous to Republicans and Republican candidates.

If Republicans tried to stop the voter corruption Democrats would attack Republicans for trying to find a way to stop black people from voting. The media would spin it as "Republicans have been accused of trying to prevent Blacks from voting. Professor xxx yyyy from e said today "Under the guise of stopping cheating by black voters, Republicans are trying to prevent blacks from voting against them in the innner cities." That is why it is not taken to court.

Remember Democrats only do it in close elections. Men like Governor Rhodes knew it. At a campaign meeting during that '72 election, Jim mentioned that we needed to get 50,000 more actual votes than the Democrats just to earn a tie. Jim chose to do it by trying to maximise turn out in typically strong Republican Counties... such as the rural counties in Ohio. He could not afford the negative media coverage an attempt to make inner city Democrats obey the law would create.

My belief is that to stop it we need a new Black Voter Protection law. To "Protect all Voters and especially Blacks" a new law would require at least one state trooper be stationed inside every polling place in the state. Unless the Democrats could corrupt the State troopers in Ohio, Michigan, Pa, Ill and Florida, the cheating would be over. With state troopers to "guard" and protect "Minority Voters rights" and to ensure that NO illegal Actions of any kind, could succeed the cheating would be ended.

When the black voters complain as they did in Florida in 2000, I would use that to pass a "Minority Voter Proection" act with state troopers in every polling place to prevent any kind of corruption of the voting process.

Democrats do things to hurt Republicans and do it for the "Children". Republicans need to do things that will hurt Demorats and say they are doing it for the "Minority Voters".

Lots of peole like "Torie" examine the numbers like a "Lawyer" and conclude there is no provable corruption. That of course is true. But does nothing to stop the corruption.

Democrats are good at getting away with crimes. Republicans are very good at NOT stopping them.

[Lady Heron]

Unless the Democrats could corrupt the State troopers in Ohio, Michigan, Pa, Ill and Florida

One word unions.

Anybody can be corrupted. It is time for the Republicans to fight back. Sting opperations are the way to fight back. Send at least 2 Republicans poll watchers into every pol place in America, have them wired if nessecary in the city precints. If they are ruffed up it is caught on tape or camera. If cheating happens it is caught on tape or camera. Shine the light of day on democrat precints voting practices, otherwise it will continue to grow and more and more people will think that their vote does not count.

[Lady Heron]

Republicans are very good at NOT stopping them.

The one thing I find so frustrating about the gentelmen Republicans is that they have decided that being a wimp is being a gentelman.

[Common Tator]

The one thing I find so frustrating about the gentlemen Republicans is that they have decided that being a wimp is being a gentleman.

Re. your idea of wired poll watchers.. Under existing law the only people allowed in a polling place are the following. Authorized poll workers hired by the county Board of Elections to work in that particular precinct are allowed. Also allowed are voters registered in that precinct, but only those voters engaged in the act of voting or waiting to vote can be in a polling place or even within a 100 feet of a polling place entrance or exit.

Nothing can be documented 100 feet away from the polling place building.

[Lady Heron]

Thank you for your insight into election laws.

Under existing law the only people allowed in a polling place are the following. Authorized poll workers hired by the county Board of Elections to work in that particular precinct are allowed.

The Republicans need to hold those Board of Elections up to upholding the law and having Republican poll watchers. And now we have come full circle. Once they are in then record any threats, bullying or fraud and expose the process. In dangerous precints make sure that there is more than one Republican. It is time we get as organized as the dems.

[Torie]

They then vote the additional ballots of those that signed but did not show up to vote

What happens if somebody shows up to vote, and finds that he has already voted?

You exposition is all very interesting, but in the case of 2000, in Pennsylvania, no additional votes were needed to push Gore over the top, so maybe per your model, the numbers were clean in Philly for that election. Either that, or instead of stealing just enough to win, they added another extra 200,000 or so votes.

[Common Tator]

OKKKK I'll try to make it clear... ONe more time... take it from the middle..

In both techniques I described they don't vote the no-shows until after the polls close. That is why the big cities are the last to report in.. In the older method they only vote registered voters who did not actually vote. They only vote them if the actual returns from other precincts say they need them. They use the networks or major local stations calling a race to decide to steal or not steal votes. The dangerous thing about the method is the voters sign in signatures have to be forged. They used to bring in a photo copies of the original registration signatures signed when the voter registered, so a poll worker could copy them on the sign in sheets. Some of the forgeries are quite good.

Here is a Chicago case from long ago.....In 1948 the Republicans tried to hold out some southern Illinois precincts until Chicago reported in. They figured they would outlast the Chicago machine and the Democrats would not know how many votes they had to steal. Southern Illinois held out until 8:00 the next morning after the election. But even then the Chicago precincts would not report in. Southern Illinois gave up and reported in about 8:10Am the next morning. About 9:00Am Chicago reported in with just enough votes to give Illinois to Truman. That is why the Truman Dewey race was not decided until after 9:Am the day after. It did not happen before and has not happened since. But Republican Southern Ill precincts were not held out before or since.

It was a similar situation in 1960 when Chicago gave JFK enough votes to defeat Nixon. Once again Chicago did not report until all of the rest of the state had reported. Lots of people urged Nixon to bring suitin 1960. They knew Nixon could prove the signature on the voting rolls were forgeries.. But even though they could prove it, Nixon said no. He did not think it would good for the US to have its leadership in doubt and in the courts during the hot part of the cold war.

Here in Ohio, Columbus is now as big as Cleveland. Yet Cleveland reports its totals for the inner city precincts several hours after the last precinct in Columbus has reported.

As to your question.

If the voter actually comes in to vote.. fine.. If they don't show up to vote, poll workers cast their ballots for them after the polls close. They usually do it 3 or 4 hours after the polls close. But in the old system, they only forge votes if the forged votes can change the winner. But they still wait several hours to see if in fact the added votes can change the outcome or prevent a recount.

The newer system of stealing votes has each precinct staff voting a pre fixed number of Democratic voters. That is its disadvantage. They have to decide how many votes to get in total from poll results and then get that many voters to pre sign. The one thing to handle is when voters who pre signed a practice list comes in to actually vote. That would be common since they practiced at churces and voter education places in the inner city. So they have a lot of actual voters and non voters pre-signed. The advantage of this system is it does not involve forged voter signatures on the voter sign in lists. In the newer system the poll-workers have 3 lists. One list is just an alpha list the voters with a mark to say which list to have the voter sign on election day. If a not signed person comes in they have him or her sign on the list that were pre signed by other voters at voting practice. If someone who signed at the voting practice comes in, they give them a second list to sign. That list is used for pre signed voters only. It is burned after the polls close. That way there are no records kept of duplicate signatures or voters who have "already" voted.

The newer system is more dangerous on election day but leaves no forged signatures to be found later. But in both cases they DO NOT vote the non voters until after the polls close. The law protects the second sytsem since only poll workers and voters are allowed in polling places on election day. The danger is an inspector comesin and asks why do you only have 50 marked ballots at 7:am and 453 people have already signed in to vote. But no inspector show up in inner city precincts.

Let me give you the second scenario where practice signature voters show up to vote..

(pollworker)And You are?

(you) Torie Torie Torah (or a pearl harbor equivalent)

>(poll-worker)let me look up your name to see which part of the voter list you are on... Your address please?

(you) Your address

>(poll-worker) looking at his alpha list you're registration is on voter list b.
Poll worder flips pages on voter list B

(poll-worker) Would you sign your name please..here...

(YOU) Sound of pen scratching.

(poll-worker) Here is your voter card. Give it to the voting machine operator...thank you. Next!

If you had signed up at a church practice session you would have been given your entry on List A to sign.

Now the first scenario.

The democrats are down 5,000 votes state wide and need 100 extra votes in each inner city precinct to win with out a recount. The presiding judge says, take "our" registration list and sign in 100 registered voters on the list who did not VOTE but are now going to be "voted" hours after the polls closed. While you're doing that I will vote 100 ballots. Then we take them all to the BOE to be counted.

The second scenario.

(presiding judge) How many people actually voted:

243.

>(presiding judge)How many voters have signed the voter sign in sheet? ....

252.

>(presiding judge)Ok..get out 109 additional ballots and we'll vote them. P>In the older system... the poll workers have to forge the signatures of voters that don't actually vote but are illegally voted by the poll workers .

Forgery can be proved by a comparison of the signature when the person registered to vote, with the signatures signed at the precinct when the poll workers forged their signature.

That is how the system works.

It seems so clear to me... but then, we used to do it twice a year.

[Torie]

Well, thanks again. In Orange County California there is just one master list of voters that folks sign onto. There are no counterpart lists. Thus, there is no A and B list. I can see if counterpart lists are in play, it could be fraud city per your colorful description of what happens in the dark recesses. By the way, in my precinct, there are Pubbie poll watchers. Of course, two thirds of the voters are Pubbies. LOL.

[Common Tator]

You exposition is all very interesting, but in the case of 2000, in Pennsylvania, no additional votes were needed to push Gore over the top,

That is very likely true in PA. I never alleged the Democrats stole Pa. I alleged they out foxed themselves in Florida. The networks did not intend to do Gore in, but they gave the election to Bush by calling Florida for Gore. That told the innercity precinct workers they were not to steal votes and they turned in the ballots before they found out CBS,NBC,ABC, and CNN were wrong.

Gore won Pa by 204,840 votes give or take a forged chad or two. I don't believe the Democrats can steal 200 thousand votes. I don't know recent numbers, but in the 70's Democrats could steal about 50,000 votes in Ohio. My info on PA would be hearsay, but memory from that era says perhaps 75,000 absolute tops. Democrats steal votes in Philly and Pittsburg. In Ohio it was Cleveland and and to a much lesser degree Toledo. Columbus and Cincy were pretty honest. Democrats bought votes and perhaps stole them in Dayton too. Any Democrat who got elected in Ohio by less than 50,000 votes had a lot of help. There is no way to measure votes that have been outright bought. Democrats do buy a lot of them. In the 1940s and 50s in my home county in Southern Ohio out of about 12,000 total votes, a thouand would have been bought by the Democrat organization. That was in what was then a repubican county.

I remember stacks and stacks of envelopes with an inch or so of 2 dollar bills in each to be used by precinct workers to buy votes. And the shop room would be stacked to the ceiling with cases of whiskey. But you bring to mind what my Dad used to say, when I used to worry about him being caught buying votes. He used to tell me, "Republicans are the only breed that can be 8 months pregnant and still not know they have been screwed."

[Common Tator]

By the way, in my precinct, there are Pubbie poll watchers

Yes there are in my precinct too. But that does not mean Democrats can't buy votes. Voter lists tell who voted and who did not. That is how they know Arnie did not vote teh last couple of years.

Precinct workers tell poor potential democratic voters .. especially poor single moms working at menial jobs and not very political... go vote. Here is your sample ballot. Promise me you will vote just like the sample ballot. Then stop by my house two weeks after the election. It the records show you voted I will have a 10 dollar bill for you. Those that get $2.50 an hour plus tips at the Pizza hut or work for the minimum wage at the 7-11 do it even in Orange county. Davis will get a number of votes that way in just 45 more days. It remains to be seen if it will be enough.

[Common Tator]

In Orange County California there is just one master list of voters that folks sign onto

That is all they needed for the old system. But it only works where there are only Democrat poll workers. Betcha there are lots of precincts in LA that only have Democratic poll workers.

[The Finman]

Excellent post Ragtime Cowgirl

Let me also throw in

Jack T...here is the REAL Clinton Record

Clinton:

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  Conspired with David Hale and Jim McDougal to defraud the Small Business Administration of $300,000.
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  Used State Police for personal purposes.
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  Abused his position as governor to extort sexual favors from employees.
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  Directed State Police to fabricate incriminating evidence against political opponents: Steve Clark, Terry Reed, and Larry Nichols.
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  Knew about drug importation and distribution by a friend and campaign contributor, Dan Lasater.
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  Allowed drug money to be laundered through ADFA.
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  Appointed and protected Arkansas Medical Examiner Fahmy Malak who repeatedly obstructed justice by declaring murders as "suicides" or "accidents."
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  Has never accounted for his actions during 40 days behind the Iron Curtain during the Vietnam War.
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  Tipped off Governor Tucker about upcoming criminal referral.
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  Violated Arkansas campaign finance laws.
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  Violated the Constitution by signing into law an ex post facto law, a retroactive tax increase.
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  Fired RTC chief Albert Casey to allow his friend Roger Altman to monitor and block Whitewater investigations.
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  Fired FBI director William Sessions and the entire top management at the FBI to prevent an autonomous FBI from investigating the suicide of Vince Foster and other scandals.
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  Fired all U.S. Attorneys to appoint Paula Casey who prevented Judge David Hale from testifying against Clinton.
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  Offered State Troopers federal jobs in return for their silence about Clinton's crimes.
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  Blocked Justice Department indictments after Inspector General Sherman Funk found "criminal violations of the Privacy Act provable beyond reasonable doubt" when former Bush employee files were searched and leaked to the press.
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  Appointed friend and felon Webster Hubbell to number 3 position in Justice Department in order to be able to block Whitewater criminal referrals by RTC investigator L. Jean Lewis.
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  Blocked the criminal trial of Representative Ford, a Tennessee Democrat.
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  Appointed a campaign activist to head the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, without the mandated "advice and consent" of the Senate, to derail a probe of his and Hillary's financial dealings.
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  Committed witness tampering by causing bribes to be paid to Webster Hubbell.
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  Committed witness tampering by causing a job with the NSC to be offered to former Trooper L.D. Brown in return for Brown's silence on several Clinton crimes.
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  Rifled through L.D. Brown's personnel file at the CIA in an attempt to find damaging information on Brown, a witness to many Clinton crimes.
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  Blocked Justice Department prosecution of Arthur Coia, a union Mob puppet and heavy Clinton donor.
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  Made fund-raising calls from the White House, a federal property.
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  Accepted a bribe from the Government of China, hidden from federal election inspectors by laundering it through Ng Lap Seng, the Bank of China, Charlie Trie and his relatives, and his Legal Defense Fund.
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  Accepted a $50,000 bribe from the candidate for president of South Korea, in return for a written endorsement of the candidate. Engaged in a criminal scheme to launder illegal contributions for the president of Teamsters campaign and in turn laundered illegal foreign contributions through the "Teamsters for a Corruption Free Union" fund.
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  Subverted federal campaign spending limits through a DNC slush fund used for television advertising planned by political consultant Dick Morris. Bill Clinton is under investigation by an Independent Counsel and by Congress.
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  Lied under oath to a grand jury.
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  Found guily by Judge Susan Weber (a Democrat & former student of clinton) of contempt of court for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit.
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  Struck a deal with Mr Ray to spare the president from criminal charges the day before he left office in January 2001.
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  Was required to testify for the official record that he "knowingly gave evasive and misleading answers".
  
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  Former US President Bill Clinton could have been charged - and might have been convicted - over his attempts to cover up his affair with Monica Lewinsky, the special prosecutor has concluded.
  
  Robert Ray - who took over from Kenneth Starr as independent counsel - said there was sufficient evidence the president had obstructed the inquiry into the scandal surrounding him and the former White House intern.
  
  

  Mr Clinton's lawyers struck a deal with Mr Ray to spare the president from criminal charges the day before he left office in January 2001.
  
  

  Mr Ray's report was released by a three-member panel of federal appeals court judges who appointed him and his predecessor Mr Starr to investigate the president and his wife in 1994.
  
  

  The report - which was required by law - said: "The independent counsel concluded that sufficient evidence existed to prosecute and that such evidence would 'probably be sufficient to obtain and sustain a conviction... by an unbiased trier of fact'."
  
  

  Mr Ray said he decided against prosecution on the grounds that "non-criminal alternatives" were sufficient.
  
  

  But in the report, he concluded: "President Clinton's offences had a significant adverse impact on the community, substantially affecting the public's view of the integrity of our legal system.
  
  

  "President Clinton admitted he 'knowingly gave evasive and misleading' answers" about his sexual relationship with Ms Lewinsky.
  
  

  The day before President George W Bush was inaugurated, Mr Clinton agreed to surrender his licence to practise law for five years as part of the deal with Mr Ray.
  
  

  Monica Lewinsky was 21 when she met the President.
  
  

  He admitted he made false statements under oath when questioned about his relationship with Ms Lewinsky during a hearing into his alleged sexual harassment of Paula Jones.
  
  

  The report said: "President Clinton engaged in conduct that impeded the due administration of justice by testifying falsely under oath... that he could not recall ever being alone with Monica Lewinsky; and he had not had a sexual affair or engaged in sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky."
  
  

  
  
  

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  26 separate lawyers on the Clinton Defense team (most presidents have 3-4)
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  $2 million in tax money to pay for these lawyers
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  37 separate visits with Lewinsky after she left her job the White House
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  7 travel office agents wrongly fired
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  75 - known illegal calls made by Algore
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  $20,000 - Roger Clinton's one time drug debt
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  40 days -the amount of time that Bill Clinton spent behind the "Iron Curtain" with communist in 1969
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  $1 trillion - estimated cost of Clinton health care in just a few years
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  $50,000 - $150,000 - approx. price of a coffee break with the president
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  $150,000 + - price of a night in the Lincoln bedroom
  
  
  
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  100 - approx. number of confirmed fund-raiser coffee breaks
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  938 supporters spent the night at the White House
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  $25 million - contributions raised by coffee events
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  $200 - price of Clinton's haircut while holding up traffic at LA International airport.
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  $1,000 - approx. amount Hillary invested in cattle futures.
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  $100,000 - amount Hillary "earned" in the same cattle futures in a little over a year.
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  $14,600 - Clintons owed this amount in back taxes from 1980 (paid for in 1994
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  $452,000 - amount of illegal contributions from the Lippo group to the DNC
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  7 independent counsels - one for Clinton and six for his cabinet
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  0 surgeon generals between 1995 and early 1998
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  94 - the number of Clinton associates who have (1) fled the country or (2) directlyrefused to answer questions when testifying about Clinton scandals. (See the list http://www.house.gov/reform/oversight/finance/fled.htm http://www.house.gov/reform/oversight/finance/fled.htm source: ABC Nightline)
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  17 - The number of those above who fled the country
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  0 - the amount of credibility of Clinton after testifying
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  $40 million - cost of Clinton's trip to China in 1998
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  9 days, the length of the stay in communist China
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  1,000+ number who came to China with Clinton
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  11 - Counts of impeachable offenses found in Starr's report
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  31 Democrats who voted to begin formal impeachment proceedings
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  2 Articles of Impeachment passed by the House
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  45% of the Senate vote guaranteed to acquit long before the trial even started
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  45 Senators who place allegiance to a scumbag above the rule of law Crime Stats:
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  Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47 Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
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  Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
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  Number of imprisonments: 14
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  Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fledthe country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
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  $20,000 - the amount of vandalism done to the White House by the clinton administration right before the left
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  150,000 - the value of White House property taken by the clintons.
  
  

  

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