What happens if somebody shows up to vote, and finds that he has already voted?
You exposition is all very interesting, but in the case of 2000, in Pennsylvania, no additional votes were needed to push Gore over the top, so maybe per your model, the numbers were clean in Philly for that election. Either that, or instead of stealing just enough to win, they added another extra 200,000 or so votes.
In both techniques I described they don't vote the no-shows until after the polls close. That is why the big cities are the last to report in.. In the older method they only vote registered voters who did not actually vote. They only vote them if the actual returns from other precincts say they need them. They use the networks or major local stations calling a race to decide to steal or not steal votes. The dangerous thing about the method is the voters sign in signatures have to be forged. They used to bring in a photo copies of the original registration signatures signed when the voter registered, so a poll worker could copy them on the sign in sheets. Some of the forgeries are quite good.
Here is a Chicago case from long ago.....In 1948 the Republicans tried to hold out some southern Illinois precincts until Chicago reported in. They figured they would outlast the Chicago machine and the Democrats would not know how many votes they had to steal. Southern Illinois held out until 8:00 the next morning after the election. But even then the Chicago precincts would not report in. Southern Illinois gave up and reported in about 8:10Am the next morning. About 9:00Am Chicago reported in with just enough votes to give Illinois to Truman. That is why the Truman Dewey race was not decided until after 9:Am the day after. It did not happen before and has not happened since. But Republican Southern Ill precincts were not held out before or since.
It was a similar situation in 1960 when Chicago gave JFK enough votes to defeat Nixon. Once again Chicago did not report until all of the rest of the state had reported. Lots of people urged Nixon to bring suitin 1960. They knew Nixon could prove the signature on the voting rolls were forgeries.. But even though they could prove it, Nixon said no. He did not think it would good for the US to have its leadership in doubt and in the courts during the hot part of the cold war.
Here in Ohio, Columbus is now as big as Cleveland. Yet Cleveland reports its totals for the inner city precincts several hours after the last precinct in Columbus has reported.
As to your question.
If the voter actually comes in to vote.. fine.. If they don't show up to vote, poll workers cast their ballots for them after the polls close. They usually do it 3 or 4 hours after the polls close. But in the old system, they only forge votes if the forged votes can change the winner. But they still wait several hours to see if in fact the added votes can change the outcome or prevent a recount.
The newer system of stealing votes has each precinct staff voting a pre fixed number of Democratic voters. That is its disadvantage. They have to decide how many votes to get in total from poll results and then get that many voters to pre sign. The one thing to handle is when voters who pre signed a practice list comes in to actually vote. That would be common since they practiced at churces and voter education places in the inner city. So they have a lot of actual voters and non voters pre-signed. The advantage of this system is it does not involve forged voter signatures on the voter sign in lists. In the newer system the poll-workers have 3 lists. One list is just an alpha list the voters with a mark to say which list to have the voter sign on election day. If a not signed person comes in they have him or her sign on the list that were pre signed by other voters at voting practice. If someone who signed at the voting practice comes in, they give them a second list to sign. That list is used for pre signed voters only. It is burned after the polls close. That way there are no records kept of duplicate signatures or voters who have "already" voted.
The newer system is more dangerous on election day but leaves no forged signatures to be found later. But in both cases they DO NOT vote the non voters until after the polls close. The law protects the second sytsem since only poll workers and voters are allowed in polling places on election day. The danger is an inspector comesin and asks why do you only have 50 marked ballots at 7:am and 453 people have already signed in to vote. But no inspector show up in inner city precincts.
Let me give you the second scenario where practice signature voters show up to vote..
(pollworker)And You are?
(you) Torie Torie Torah (or a pearl harbor equivalent)
>(poll-worker)let me look up your name to see which part of the voter list you are on... Your address please?
(you) Your address
>(poll-worker) looking at his alpha list you're registration is on voter list b.
Poll worder flips pages on voter list B
(poll-worker) Would you sign your name please..here...
(YOU) Sound of pen scratching.
(poll-worker) Here is your voter card. Give it to the voting machine operator...thank you. Next!
If you had signed up at a church practice session you would have been given your entry on List A to sign.
Now the first scenario.
The democrats are down 5,000 votes state wide and need 100 extra votes in each inner city precinct to win with out a recount. The presiding judge says, take "our" registration list and sign in 100 registered voters on the list who did not VOTE but are now going to be "voted" hours after the polls closed. While you're doing that I will vote 100 ballots. Then we take them all to the BOE to be counted.
The second scenario.
(presiding judge) How many people actually voted:
243.
>(presiding judge)How many voters have signed the voter sign in sheet? ....
252.
>(presiding judge)Ok..get out 109 additional ballots and we'll vote them. P>In the older system... the poll workers have to forge the signatures of voters that don't actually vote but are illegally voted by the poll workers .
Forgery can be proved by a comparison of the signature when the person registered to vote, with the signatures signed at the precinct when the poll workers forged their signature.
That is how the system works.
It seems so clear to me... but then, we used to do it twice a year.
That is very likely true in PA. I never alleged the Democrats stole Pa. I alleged they out foxed themselves in Florida. The networks did not intend to do Gore in, but they gave the election to Bush by calling Florida for Gore. That told the innercity precinct workers they were not to steal votes and they turned in the ballots before they found out CBS,NBC,ABC, and CNN were wrong.
Gore won Pa by 204,840 votes give or take a forged chad or two. I don't believe the Democrats can steal 200 thousand votes. I don't know recent numbers, but in the 70's Democrats could steal about 50,000 votes in Ohio. My info on PA would be hearsay, but memory from that era says perhaps 75,000 absolute tops. Democrats steal votes in Philly and Pittsburg. In Ohio it was Cleveland and and to a much lesser degree Toledo. Columbus and Cincy were pretty honest. Democrats bought votes and perhaps stole them in Dayton too. Any Democrat who got elected in Ohio by less than 50,000 votes had a lot of help. There is no way to measure votes that have been outright bought. Democrats do buy a lot of them. In the 1940s and 50s in my home county in Southern Ohio out of about 12,000 total votes, a thouand would have been bought by the Democrat organization. That was in what was then a repubican county.
I remember stacks and stacks of envelopes with an inch or so of 2 dollar bills in each to be used by precinct workers to buy votes. And the shop room would be stacked to the ceiling with cases of whiskey. But you bring to mind what my Dad used to say, when I used to worry about him being caught buying votes. He used to tell me, "Republicans are the only breed that can be 8 months pregnant and still not know they have been screwed."