US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Commandments

Sean Hannity Show ^ | 8-20-03 | Sean Hannity

[Atlas Sneezed]

US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Ccommandments from Alabama courthouse.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"No need to spend Federal money. There is a little thing called contempt of court. The trial judge will just fine the state into compliance."

And they can pay the judge with cow chips, since there is no legal power to enforce. Just let the fictitious fines pile up, since it would be illegal to use Federal resources to enforce the playhouse ruling.

[lugsoul]

What in the world are you talking about, if you know?

Is the law they used Constitutional? It WAS the Constitution.

"I can tell you right now, there is no enumerated power for the Federal government to interfere with states in religious matters, other than to uphold one's freedom of religion."

Are you saying that the states are bound by the Free Exercise Clause, but not by the Establishment Clause? That on part of the sentence applies to them and another does not? That's crazy.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"It's time for this judge to act like a Christian and obey the secular authorities. He needs to read Romans 13"

I hope to God we are not Rome yet! Over my dead body!

[VRWC_minion]

The Supreme Court mural depicts the history of law-- it shows Moses, Mohammad, Hammurabbi, Greek and Roman lawgivers, etc.-- without singling out a particular religion as being endorsed by the Government.

Sound lame. So, if Moore simple adds a few more displays ie Roman and Greek lawgivers then it would be ok ?

[Abe Froman]

The 1st Amendment reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

#1: Judge Moore is not Congress, he is free to do that which Congress may not do under the 1st Amendment.

#2: Putting a monument showing the Ten Commandments does not constitute "establishing religion" or "abridging the free excersize thereof". No one is being compelled to worship anyone or anything or is being prevented from doing the same. No one is even compelled to read the text of the monument. It can be freely ignored and/or disregarded.

[wardaddy]

The challengers to Moore are not simply liberals, they are anti-pluralists, much like many of the quasi-Conservatives here who denounce Moore.

[kegler4]

"You're not a fan of the ludicrous straw man argument?"

Definitely not. But sport wants to foist it on us until he runs out of breath.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

These true scholars pick and choose the stuff they like, and toss the stuff they don't.

[Modernman]

No need to spend Federal money. There is a little thing called contempt of court. The trial judge will just fine the state into compliance.

Right. You have no legal or moral right to ignore a decision of a court just because you don't like it, especially when the appeals process is still going on.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

The abuse of the Constitution is crazy. That's my point.

[Lijahsbubbe]

What was the reason given?

They're all heathens.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Right. You have no legal or moral right to ignore a decision of a court just because you don't like it, especially when the appeals process is still going on."

Oh I see. If a judge tells you to bend over so he can slip something up you, you must comply? Be a man!

[HurkinMcGurkin]

So, if Moore simple adds a few more displays ie Roman and Greek lawgivers then it would be ok ?

As discussed probably several hundred times on FR, Moore was already given that option, but declined. I'm sure you knew that.

[I still care]

Here is an article written by Jay Sekolow on why this whole thing has him nervous;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965229/posts

[Middle Man]

"What was the reason given?"

Unfortunately, if the SC denies certiorari, they don't have to give anybody a reason. They can refuse to hear a case "Just because...".

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Name the enumerated power, then.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Yes, by all means, move it to a God friendly country.

[kegler4]

"Here goes. When I go to my local department of motor vehicle I get to watch a board that prints various things like news updates etc. Included in the displayed materials are daily horoscopes. I happen to believe that the occult is against God and should be avoided at all costs. Having to watch these be published in a gov't building is offensive to me, but I would not want to make an issue of it because I can just look the other way."

That was definitely much better than the idiotic suggestion
that the court would be amenable to a plaque showing men engaging in oral sex.

However, you can believe all you want that horoscopes represent a religion, but I don't think you'd find many who believe the same. The Ten Commandments most definitely represent religion. No question about it. In fact, Judge Moore says so.

Sorry, but that strawman doesn't work. It was much more original and interesting, however.