US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Commandments

Sean Hannity Show ^ | 8-20-03 | Sean Hannity

[Atlas Sneezed]

US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Ccommandments from Alabama courthouse.

[Iconoclast2]

You just don't get it. Judge Moore was not hijacking the Constitution; he was putting up a monument. It is the Judges who invoke the Constitution to support the exercise of government power to regulate Judge Moore, and then exercise that power, that are the extremists. It's simply not within their jurisdiction. Putting up a monument in his own courthouse was within Judge Moore's jurisdiction, so to speak.

[george wythe]

So Christians are not bound to obey unconstitutional rulings or laws.

It is not up to you to decide what laws are constitutional, since that job was given to the US Supreme Court.

Therefore, you are just setting up a strawman.

Christians must obey the secular authorities, the only exception being when the secular authorities ask Christians to stop practicing their religion.

There is nothing in the Christian religion that calls for a stone representing the Ten Commandments to be put in a public workplace.

At any rate, common sense already prevailed on this case.

[george wythe]

There were Christians claiming that God was on their side on both the loyalist and the revolutionary American movements.

There were Christians claiming that God was on their side on both the abolitionist and the anti-abolitionist American movements.

There were Christians claiming that God was on their side on both the segregationist and the anti-segregationist American movements.

The Bible is very clear. Christians must obey the secular authorities, even if the secular authorities are anti-Christian, anti-God, corrupt and wicked. Read Romans 13.

Was the Roman Empire in the First Century more tolerant of Christianity than America in the Twenty-First Century?

[rwfromkansas]

Actually, the Bible is clear that in most cases we are to obey civil authorities. But, not in cases when it would violate our duty as Christians.

[rwfromkansas]

You are taking Romans 13 and making it your entire argument.

Christ himself was silent on at least one occassion I can think of when civil authorities demanded him to answer them.

The early Christians DID NOT OBEY THE CIVIL AUTHORITY, but refused to worship the govt. and thus were killed.

[itsahoot]

After hearing practically the same thing 532 times, it gets pretty boring.

Sort of like "The wall of seperation between church and state"...huh.

[wardaddy]

Snake-handling Protestantism

lol...well you at least deserve points for a lack of ambiguity.

[george wythe]

The early Christians DID NOT OBEY THE CIVIL AUTHORITY, but refused to worship the govt. and thus were killed.

That was the only exception that I have mentioned numerous times already.

Obviously, you conceded the argument when you have to bring up the exception instead of the rule.

The rule is: Christians must obey the secular authorities, even when the authorities are anti-Christian, unfair, brutal and tyrannical.

The exception is: Christians must disobey the secular authorities when commanded to stop observing their religion.

There is nothing in the Christian religion that calls for a stone representing the Ten Commandments to be placed in a public workplace.

If anything, the fact the people are kneeling and praying in front of this stone reminds me of idolatry, a big Christian no-no.

[beelzepug]

Outrage against tyranny is what the second amendment is all about. (to any liberals who may be lurking, no, it isn't about hunting)

[rwfromkansas]

The curtain has been REMOVED.

Hahaha!

[rwfromkansas]

I guess John Witherspoon is a "bad Christian" in your view then.

The fathers of the Reformation know a heck of a lot more than you about what is right in resisting tyranny. I will take their word over your case, which relies completely on one verse.

[beelzepug]

What's the record for most postings on a topic? This one seems to have taken on a life of its own!

[george wythe]

I guess St. Paul was a "bad" Christian in your view.

Even when he was unfairly charged and condemned to death by the Romans, he refused to flee when he had the opportunity. Remember when the ship carrying him to Rome was wrecked and St Paul was free to run way and hide in Malta?

He failed to resist tyranny and failed as a Christian according to your version of Christianity.

Btw, Protestants, especially Southern Baptists, frequently scold Catholic worshippers who kneel and pray in front of stone images.

Somehow, now the Southern Baptists are doing the same in front of an engraved stone representing the Ten Commandments, a stone written in a language that most of them cannot even understand, and these "Christians" bow and pray in front of their stone.

[singsong]

Put in "Alabama onstitution of 1901"
It was posted on the thread. There is nothing that could justify removing the monument. Even remotely. And you forget that the ruling to remove the monument was based on federal law not state law. It proves my point and also shows that the pervert reading of the Constitution has become an entrenched habit of our judges.

[itsahoot]

Today i'm ashamed to be an American.I have taken down my flag and refuse to fly it

Good. You don't believe what it stands for anyway.

[itsahoot]

Not to mention this whole stunt of Moore's is being funded by the televangelists over at Coral Ridge ministry.

Would you be more happy if the Trial Lawyers Association were funding him?

[rwfromkansas]

There is a difference between kissing the feet of a St. Peter statue in St. Peter's square and surrounding and praying at a statue....not TO THE STATUE...but praying for America around the object of controversy.

[itsahoot]

God will take care of the Supreme Court justices. what does that mean?

So sad that you have to ask.

[ZULU]

We don't NEED a constitutional amendment!! The problem is NOT with the Constitution. The First Amendment forbids the establishment of a state religion. It doesn't mandate a total denial of our heritage or the significance of the Diety and his importance in our national foundation. It doesn't mandate an atheistic state. The Founding Fathers established a procedure for opening the sessions of the Supreme Court and Congress with a prayer. The Diety os mentioned over and over again in our basic founding documents. "In God We Trust" has long been a national motto. All the arms of our service maintain chaplains of various faiths to minister to our soldiers. Until the Warren Court, school sessions were opened with a prayer and a reading from the Bible.

I am NOT aware of any new revelation coming down from ANYWHERE except the Supreme Court, basing its decision on what is probably the very first instance of political correctness that these practises should be changed.

Amend the Constitution and these black-robed, politically connected barristers who are functioning as social legislators instead of judges enforcing existing law, will simply re-interpret it to suit their own perspectives.

80-90% of Americans recognize the existence of a God, and the overwhelming majority of them oppose this kind of juridical insanity. Since does the majority have to be penalized because their preferences "offend" the minority???? Since Earl Warren, and not one generation before.