US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Commandments

Sean Hannity Show ^ | 8-20-03 | Sean Hannity

[Atlas Sneezed]

US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Ccommandments from Alabama courthouse.

[Ann Archy]

I hope you are mature enough to realize that the commandment "Thou shalt not take the Lord God's name in vain" Does NOT mean CURSING!!! Please tell me what you THINK it means.

And what other gods do you want in front of GOD?

[onedoug]

Likely founded in 5, 8 & 9.

[Robert_Paulson2]

no...the bible says "if my people will come to alabama and kneel before my holy carving and pray then will I hear from heaven, forgive them all and heal their nation" right?

idolatry and religion do not mix any better than religion and government do.
the founders were wise to separate the two.
the supreme court architects were wise to put a picture of moses on the wall, without posting the actual words of all ten commandments...

that is what makes it an historical display... in stead of a religious one... it also helps that their "frieze" has pictures of other historical figures in the realm of law... even mohammet and hammurabi... the legal mind of Sparta and others.

the judge was way off base. and now this is over.
we can now go about living the commandments as we see fit in our own way, instead of paying to inflict them on others who may not agree...

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

"If this were a muslim judge"!This country was not founded on muslim principles,if people want muslim faith they should go to a muslim country.I'm damn sick and tired of making allowances for every crackpot religion that has absolutely nothing to do with American ideals.This that we have had for over 200 years proves that any acceptance of progressive thinking is pure foolishness.

[Robe]

Gee.... When I was about 10 I decided to try my dads Lucky Strikes... when he caught me, he made me smoke three more with a bucket over my head.....never smoked since.
Sometimes harsh punishment works and have lasting effects

[rmlew]

I belivee that Judge moore will be fined $500/day for not removing the Ten Commandments.
Who wants to start a Decalogue fund?

[VRWC_minion]

You lose. The father admitted hitting two of his children in the fact, having his boys sit with bags over their heads Gitmo-style, and refusing to allow his teen daughter to see a GYN. The court found that he engaged in "excessive disciplinary measures" and entered an order with safeguards to protect the kids - from their father. But at least he wasn't gay, as far as we know.

Excessive displine isn't the same as abuse. Were both children female ?

[Chancellor Palpatine]

ERISA was definitely NOT derived from the 10 Commandments - its source was much, much lower....

[Grando Calrissian]

Thou shalt not drive more than 25 in a school zone!

[wardaddy]

I liked this forum better when it was Conservatives battling Libertarians.

Now with a few notable exceptions, the Libertarians have been eclipsed by the (what culture war?) moderate Conservatives and the schism has taken on a new tone.

[lugsoul]

Did he punch you in the face, too?

[Gracey]

Thanks for your input.

As stated, Judge Moore may put the 10 commandments in his courtroom or courtroom area. I believe the issue is LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION.

[george wythe]

Actually, as I recall from the argument of this judge, he was refusing to comply based on what he interprets the constitution to mean.

Unfortunately, he has not confined his arguments to the constitution.

His stealthy stunt, filmed by “Christian” television, also included exclusive interviews to the “Christian” broadcasters, in which he claimed:

Chief Justice Moore left no doubt how he will respond to any lawsuits that come. "I’ve put the monument depicting the sovereignty of God and His standards in the Judicial building and I have no intention of removing them. We will defend it because it is truth and you can’t deny truth."

In a special interview with Dr. Kennedy that will air September 6 on Truths That Transform, Moore said he is "convinced that God has put me here for a purpose and that one purpose is to acknowledge His law and His sovereignty." Moore’s hope, he said, is to "restore the moral foundation of law, and from that we will hopefully regain some national morality we have lost."

I personally do not see anything unconstitutional about getting a copy of the Ten Commandments in a court, as long as the proper building permits are secured with the local authorities. Then, while the case is being appealed to the US Supreme Court, the current laws should be observed.

Nevertheless, this judge is either acting out a Super Christian fantasy or looking for free publicity.

[petitfour]

I believe the federal judge said that it would be fine for Judge Moore to put the monument within his private chambers/office. However, will there now be a litmus test for judges? "Do you have a copy of the Ten Commandments?"

[Lost Highway]

In your opinion does whatever particular part of the Constitution being considered have a fixed meaning based on the words or is the meaning whatever 9 supreme court justices say it is?

[VRWC_minion]

But, I don't like having a government building turned into a showcase for a particular religious viewpoint. Put another way- imagine a situation where a Muslim judge in say, New Jersey, wanted to put a 5,300 pound copy of the koran into a rotunda of the NJ supreme court. Would people on this board be giving him the same level of support? If not, what's the difference?

Personally I don't care one way or the other. I simply find it inconsistant for the SC Freize to stand while this monument has to go. Secondly, I think the athiests are immature babies who cannot avert their eyes if they are exposed to ideas an concepts they don't agree with.

[olorin]

lol

[Labyrinthos]

BUT try to live like the Bible tells you...

Where does the Bible say that public officials, acting in their official capacity in the world's greatest constitutional republic are supposed to use their offical position to advocate their private religious beliefs? Seems to me that judge mooron remains free to practice his religious beliefs as long as he doesn't advocate or promote those beliefs on the public's dime.

[lugsoul]

"beat" is, I believe, the word used in the post you challenged.

The oldest child was a girl. The younger kids were boys. He punched them in the face. There was testimony from the kids, that Dad denied, that he drew blood when he punched them in the face.

But, to Judge Roy Moore, none of that matters because Mom is a godless lesbian.