US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Commandments

Sean Hannity Show ^ | 8-20-03 | Sean Hannity

[Robe]

of the history of our legal system.

So you DO agree that out system of laws ARE based upon the doctrine set down in the Ten Commandments !
You can't have it both ways , either our laws ARE based on Christian/Judaic beliefs, which means the Ten Commandments ARE relevant., OR our laws are based on something else not yet defined.

[VRWC_minion]

As discussed probably several hundred times on FR, Moore was already given that option, but declined. I'm sure you knew that.

No, I'm new to this topic. However, I'll bet the ACLU will be just as adamant if he adds displays.

[Labyrinthos]

The 1st Amendment reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

#1: Judge Moore is not Congress, he is free to do that which Congress may not do under the 1st Amendment.

Please go back to "remedial constitutional law." Its a real challenge to have an intelligent conversation with people who don't even have the most basic understanding of our constitutional jurisprudence.

[Centurion2000]

US Supreme Court refuses to block removal of Ten Ccommandments from Alabama courthouse.

Then tell the black robed bastards to pull their own copy of it down from THEIR walls FIRST.

If the federal government wants to rule and lead on this then THEY should set the example.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"I agree completely. If the rule of law means anything at all, a sitting justice of a state Supreme Court must comply with an order from a federal court, regardless of what he thinks of the order."
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1. Equal justice for All is required for the law to mean anything. God is put on our currency. What heads are rolling over that?

2. When the Courts ignore the Constitution, the law means nothing. We are in a state of oligarchial anarchy. This is proof of it.

[Abe Froman]

Insulting one's intelligence is not a substitute for a good argument.

[Centurion2000]

I agree. It's over, and Justice Moore lost. As a Chief Justice of a state supreme court, he should re-affirm the rule of law

Obedience to unconstitutional rulings or laws is repugnent to the Constitution.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Its easy for Moore to follow his pathetic, televangelist manipulated excuse of a "conscience" when the already trouble treasury of Alabama is paying the freight.

That is so typical of Southern/Midwestern US Christians - claiming persecution when someone denies them the ability to use the public facilities and treasury to proselytize their faith, and being unwilling to truly pay a personal price or be willing to take on a personal sacrifice.

It is trashy.

Read Solzhenitsyn for tales of true religious persecution. Fr. Dimitri Dudko is another good source.

[Kaisersrsic]

Your article said: "U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson has said he may fine the state about $5,000 a day if the monument is not removed by the end of the day Wednesday. He has said it would be permissible for the monument to be moved to a less public site, such as Moore's office."

If the federal judge really wrote that Justice Roy Moore could move the 5,300-pound stone monument into his office you have to give him points for sense of humor!

[Myrddin]

The justices said they would not be drawn, at least for now, into a dispute over whether the monument violates the Constitution's ban on government promotion of religion.

The First Amendment to the Constitution says Congress shall make no law... Please show me how Congress made a law that placed that monument in the building. Cite it chapter and verse. If Congress did not make a law to install that monument, then there is no consititutional violation.

[Lost Highway]

Please go back to "remedial constitutional law." Its a real challenge to have an intelligent conversation with people who don't even have the most basic understanding of our constitutional jurisprudence.

Fancy way of saying "I don't like what the Constitution actually says so we'll go by what I wish it said".

[VRWC_minion]

Moore's trying to force his religious views into a courthouse, where they have no place.

I was with you until this sentence. Its a leap of logic to say his stand on the monument would affect his rulings in the court. That said, even if Christianity did affect his rulings, they would be less harsh in that the message of Christianity is one of forgiveness, renewal and reconcilation. Even if i were an atheists, I would rather take my chances with a christian judge. I would likely fare better.

[NutCrackerBoy]

Moore's trying to force his religious views into a courthouse, where they have no place.

That is your opinion. My opinion is that expressing a moral basis is OK in a courthouse. The question is what does the law say.

[Robe]

Although the bible thumpers claim that the purpose of Moore's Monument is to remind people of the origin of our laws, at least five of the ten commandments are purely religious and to the best of my knowledge do not relate to any crime on the books of any state.

I guess you never have been south of the ole Mason Dixon, and heard of the Sunday Blue Laws prohibiting the operation and sale of goods on Sunday ("Keep holy the Sabbath Day")

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

What we need to understand is that the Court is now above congress and can legislate from the bench [ie make laws], the Court is above the Constitution and can make whatever laws it dam# well pleases, and the Court considers itself to be above God. In other words, the Court's pride has reached the point it is heading for a fall.

The 1st Amendment reads "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

[Middle Man]

Exactly. One of the many reasons the Supreme Court has more in common with a cabal of high priests than a court of law in a free country.

[BreitbartSentMe]

The Judge put the Ten Commandments there in the middle of the night. He knew it was the wrong thing to do or he wouldn't have had to sneak in the dark.

Moore put this fallacy to rest on Hannity and Colmes a couple of days ago. He said the installation was scheduled to take place at 5:00 pm, after the normal workday for safety purposes. On the day it was to be installed, the company that was installing had a delay of some sort, and was unable to show up to install it until about 9 pm. So, it wasn't like they snuck it in under the cover of darkness, with no one knowing that it was going to happen.

[onedoug]

No more military chaplains. No more Last Rites on the battlefied.

[kesg]

1. Equal justice for All is required for the law to mean anything. God is put on our currency. What heads are rolling over that?

The courts have decided, rightly or wrongly, that the motto "In God we Trust" does not violate the establishment clause.

>2. When the Courts ignore the Constitution, the law means nothing. We are in a state of oligarchial anarchy. This is proof of it. </>

What part of the Constitution are the courts ignoring in this particular case?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Judge Roy Moore is carrying out his oath of office. The Alabama constitution DEMANDS him to recognize God. I think that would be a grand amendment for the US Constitution, to recognize 'God'. The Fed Court is telling him to spit upon that oath.