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Researcher's Study of Twins Bolsters 'Gateway Theory' (For Early Marijuana Use)
Medscape ^ | 2003 | Brown University Behavior Letter

Posted on 08/20/2003 12:43:41 PM PDT by shrinkermd

Edited on 08/22/2003 11:57:33 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Many studies have examined the "gateway" theory, that marijuana use at a young age leads to use of harder drugs as a person grows older. While there is a general consensus among studies that those who use marijuana are much more likely to use hard drugs and that hard drug users usually use marijuana first, there is lively debate surrounding the reasons for these dynamics.


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To: presidio9
Far fewer. In other words. Fewer than the "85 times the likelihood" bogus statistical correlation would suggest. Got it now?
181 posted on 08/21/2003 8:29:57 AM PDT by jayef
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To: toothless
What is your point? Are you saying Jack is not a drug addict?
182 posted on 08/21/2003 8:30:01 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Where does it say what you have said, nowhere!
Prove it, quote the article.
183 posted on 08/21/2003 8:30:47 AM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: jayef
Got it now?

I never didn't get it. I was trying to help out one of your less intelligent drug-using friends.

184 posted on 08/21/2003 8:31:15 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
my point is that the osbornes is BS, as is anything they say.
185 posted on 08/21/2003 8:31:29 AM PDT by toothless
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To: MrLeRoy
Sorry, but 85 times and 50 times are nowhere near comparable.
186 posted on 08/21/2003 8:32:36 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Possibly the slickster was know to be quite a toker, a doker, a midnight poker back here in Arkansas.

And GW has never, ever used drugs. Ever.

187 posted on 08/21/2003 8:33:20 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Man I love it when these guys try their stupid mob tactics on an article that does nothing but hurt their cause. This one is almost as much fun as the Ozzie article.
188 posted on 08/21/2003 8:33:47 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
Children who drink are 50 times more likely to use cocaine than non-drinkers.

Kids who smoke pot are 85 times more likely to use cocaine than non pot-smokers.


Sorry, but 85 times and 50 times are nowhere near comparable.

lol.
189 posted on 08/21/2003 8:34:14 AM PDT by toothless
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To: toothless
my point is that the osbornes is BS, as is anything they say.

You are talking about a TV show vs. a real-life interview. They have been very frank about a number of real-life problems. For instance, Sharon does, in fact, have colon cancer. You need to learn to seperate entertainment from reality a little better.

190 posted on 08/21/2003 8:35:30 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
I don't know about you, but I know plenty of law-abiding people who tried pot for the first time when they visited Amsterdam. My own sainted mother is one of them.

According to Ozzy, your mother should now be a heroin junkie.

191 posted on 08/21/2003 8:36:46 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: jmc813
"According to Ozzy, your mother should now be a heroin junkie."

And due to my use of the addictive drug coffee, I should be a crank addict.
192 posted on 08/21/2003 8:37:32 AM PDT by toothless
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To: presidio9
Oh, and you have bumped a thread establishing scientific proof for the so-called Gateway "Theory" over 50 times now. Keep up the good work.

Only stoners and homos browse FR by latest posts rather than latest articles. :-)

193 posted on 08/21/2003 8:38:12 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: PaxMacian
Where does it say what you have said, nowhere! Prove it, quote the article.

I don't need to. You quoted the article yourself. It never said what you took it to mean it said. The deduction that you made was nowhere in the article. It is never stated that the researchers started off with 311 pairs of twins that had one pot smoker and one non-pot smoker. Never.

194 posted on 08/21/2003 8:38:18 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
God is not on the side of tyrants.
Once again you demand to interpret the Bible for others.
God does not command you to steal from and imprison those individuals who seek to protect this God gifted herb from those usurpers of the Constitution who wish to eradicate it from the face of the Earth.

It is simple fascist ignorance to believe that this herb bearing a seed is just a weed to be eradicated when it just so happens that its seed contains the most complete and absorbable combination of amino acids required by the human body for sustenance of any plant on the face of Earth

It was God which gave us free will.
Satan, the adversary, attempts to make us use it adversely to the will of God. Since God made herb, saw that it was good and gave it to man then those that wish to eradicate it are opposed to the will of God.
195 posted on 08/21/2003 8:38:20 AM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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To: jmc813
According to Ozzy, your mother should now be a heroin junkie.

Wrong, because she returned to America and she is a law abiding citizen.

196 posted on 08/21/2003 8:39:39 AM PDT by presidio9 (RUN AL, RUN!!!)
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To: presidio9
They are historically in favor of limitations on personal liberty that benefit the common good.

Sounds like socialism to me.

197 posted on 08/21/2003 8:39:44 AM PDT by jmc813 (Check out the FR Big Brother 4 thread! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/943368/posts)
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To: PaxMacian
Everyday herbs are burned in temples around the world as incense and it is noted in the Bible.

Give me an example of a temple or church that burns pot as incense. Cept, maybe your church.

There is no reason to support this civil war.

The fact that pot issues are routinely voted down by the people at the electoral polls would tend to put the lie to that claim.

Ephesians 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

Putting on God's armour would be to protect your body by not ingesting poisons like pot and the other harder more addictive drugs.

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The darkness of this world is the drug culture and those that would promote things that would harm the body, "the temple of God."

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

And that truth is that Ozzy Osborne a notorius user of hard drugs said on MTV that the use of pot led his son Jack, to be a user of harder more addictive drugs.

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

That's correct, the Bible is the gospel of peace, not the gospel of illegal drugs that harm the body.

198 posted on 08/21/2003 8:40:51 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (To the Duplicate Thread Police: Get a frickin life!)
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To: presidio9
85 times and 50 times are nowhere near comparable.

So the former means "gateway drug" while the latter, only 41% lower, means "no gateway"? Baloney.

199 posted on 08/21/2003 8:40:58 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: presidio9
You have no understanding of logic whatsoever.
I quoted what was said which was contrary to what you had deduced without any evidence. I have proved my point and you remain a lying fascist satanist throwing insults.
200 posted on 08/21/2003 8:42:29 AM PDT by PaxMacian (Gen 1:29)
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