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You may now commence the flamewar.
1 posted on 08/19/2003 8:57:07 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
This is Rush at his best. Couldn't have said it any better myself.

"Conservatives need to learn from Ronald Reagan."

That's the truth. Too many conservatives have forgotten the basic tenets of conservatism and what Reagan taught us about politics.

2 posted on 08/19/2003 9:04:30 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Timesink
Sadly, I think it's a different time...wth a different citizenry....largely illegals voting...and anti-Americanism in AMERICA! I think Calif. is almost unsavable.

I actually thought Ah-nold could be good....but I was wrong....Maria has him by the "package"...don't think he has it....his first concern is "the children". It's the PARENT who takes care of the child who should be concerned.

well, California....Hasta le Vista, baby.

3 posted on 08/19/2003 9:05:29 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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4 posted on 08/19/2003 9:06:45 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink; TLBSHOW; Deb; aristeides; Uncle Bill
There's no better time to advance conservative principles than when they're most needed. And California needs a large dose of conservatism.

Californians are generally conservative and they should endeavor to elect a conservative governor and get back on the right track.

5 posted on 08/19/2003 9:08:17 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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The conservatives are mounting a very sophisticated all out subterfuge against our party. Starting Clinton and moving through election 2000, the Torch, the Dead, the TX Senate, and now poor Grayout - it's been hardball representative government all the way. In other words they're trying to undo our connections, those that we've spent much time and effort to create! What's wrong with higher taxes, higher government employment, and restricting our beautiful lands from drilling? They are promising to kill every bill proposed. Certainly you can understand our situation - one which the conservatives seek to conquer. Assist us in any way possible to keep our state strong.

Thank you for your help.

Rat government.

6 posted on 08/19/2003 9:09:22 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection
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Listening to some Republicans and conservatives on the possibility of winning the California governorship lately has been dismaying. "We don't really want to win this race. California is in such a mess it can't be fixed and we will be tagged as failures if we try. Let the Democrats continue to stew in their mess." Or a variation on this theme: "Whoever wins will not have a mandate so he/she will not be able to govern, especially with the huge Democrat majorities in the California legislature."

I haven't heard any conservatives say any of the above defeatist comments. Does anybody know who Rush is talking about?

7 posted on 08/19/2003 9:09:55 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition)
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No flames from me. Rush has completely changed my mind. Screw Arnold, I am a voting for McClintock with a salute to the Gipper.
8 posted on 08/19/2003 9:10:36 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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There's no better time to advance conservative principles than when they're most needed.

Amen. This applies in EVERY race, nationwide. ENOUGH of the republicrats, NO MORE RINOs, VOTE OUT the socialist moles sent to destroy the Republican party from within!!! Conservative principles, beliefs and policy presented by a passionate, genuine LEADER can not, and will not, lose!!!

HUBBA HUBBA HUBBA!!! DOOBA DOOBA DOOBA!!!

9 posted on 08/19/2003 9:11:27 PM PDT by Captainpaintball (Straight ahead, everybody... Straight ahead!!! And remember...Your influence counts....e-uuuse it!!!)
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Ain't it amazing that such a great piece could start a flame war ?

Rush continues to earn his eternal seat between Burke and Buckley

Feel the gin
10 posted on 08/19/2003 9:17:22 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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"He was confident that strong leadership, free enterprise, limited government, tax cuts and a strong defense were the solutions."

And these principles are still the solution. In California, it means CUT the spending, cut the government and cut the taxes. This is not rocket science.

Bustamante wants to fix government's mistakes by raising our taxes. He also wants to sock it to the "wealthy" to force them to pay their "fair" share. And he wants to force the corporations to pay more. Sheesh, this is simply the formula to drive even more business out of the state and to further increase the misery factor. Tough love he calls it. Tough love? Gray Davis and the liberal Democrats bankrupt the state and then they want to force the people to suffer even more for their mistakes? Sounds more like tough sh.... well, nevermind.

12 posted on 08/19/2003 9:18:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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Before anyone else tries to bring it up: No, the word "malaise" did not actually appear in Carter's infamous Malaise Speech. It originated in a memo written by White House pollster Pat Caddell that eventually led to the speech:

Was America in a Crisis of Confidence?

At the heart of the internal debate over the administration's future was a memo by Caddell, Carter's pollster and resident "deep thinker." "What was really disturbing to me," he remembered, "was for the first time, we actually got numbers where people no longer believed that the future of America was going to be as good as it was now. And that really shook me, because it was so at odds with the American character." Caddell argued that after fifteen years filled with assassinations, Vietnam , Watergate, and a declining economy, Americans were suffering from a general "crisis of confidence." Address this fundamental problem, he told the president, inspire the country to overcome it, and you will turn your presidency around.

Others in the administration, led by Vice President Walter Mondale , strongly disagreed. "I argued that there were real problems in America that were not mysterious, that were not rooted in some kind of national psychosis or breakdown, that there were real gas lines, there was real inflation, that people were worried in their real lives about keeping their jobs," Mondale said. "We could engage the nation by addressing those problems and asking for a new level of public support... I also argued that if, having gotten elected on the grounds that we needed a government as good as the people, we now were heard to argue that we needed a people as good as the government, that we would be destroyed."

"[We] had this real division," Caddell recalls. "And then Jimmy Carter ended it by saying... 'I've decided. I'm going to do everything that Pat said in his memo.' I thought the vice president was going to have a heart attack."

The Speech

On the evening of July 15, 1979, millions of Americans tuned in to hear Jimmy Carter give the most important speech of his presidency. After sharing some of the criticism he had heard at Camp David -- including an unattributed quote from the young governor of Arkansas, Bill Clinton -- Carter put his own spin on Caddell's argument. "The solution of our energy crisis can also help us to conquer the crisis of the spirit in our country," the president said, asking Americans to join him in adapting to a new age of limits.

But he also admonished them, "In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does but by what one owns." Hendrik Hertzberg, who worked on the speech, admits that it "was more like a sermon than a political speech. It had the themes of confession, redemption, and sacrifice. He was bringing the American people into this spiritual process that he had been through, and presenting them with an opportunity for redemption as well as redeeming himself." Though he never used the word -- Caddell had in his memo -- it became known as Carter's "malaise" speech.

Boomerang Reaction

Perhaps appreciating the president's astonishing frankness, the public rewarded him with higher approval ratings in the days that followed. But then, as historian Douglas Brinkley notes, "it boomeranged on him. The op-ed pieces started spinning out, 'Why don't you fix something? There's nothing wrong with the American people. We're a great people. Maybe the problem's in the White House, maybe we need new leadership to guide us.'" Historian Roger Wilkins concurs: "When your leadership is demonstrably weaker than it should be, you don't then point at the people and say, 'It's your problem.' If you want the people to move, you move them the way Roosevelt moved them, or you exhort them the way Kennedy or Johnson exhorted them. You don't say, 'It's your fault.'"
(What is it with Democratic presidents being mesmerized by their pollsters?)

Anyway, Carter himself helped give the speech its name, by giving statements like this one not long afterwards:

I thought a lot about our nation and what I should do as president. And Sunday night before last, I made a speech about two problems of our country—energy and malaise. -- Jimmy Carter, Bardstown, Ky., town meeting, July 21, 1979.

16 posted on 08/19/2003 9:25:54 PM PDT by Timesink
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I miss Ronald Reagan.
18 posted on 08/19/2003 9:26:28 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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Simon and McClintock are unelectabvle in California, the only role they can play si that of spoilers.

Rush knows this but for some reason he's leading the GOP down the primrose path.

22 posted on 08/19/2003 9:28:35 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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I just posted this on another thread. Reagan fans should take a look at this set:


Something I plan to order soon:

Reagan In His Own Voice (5 CD set)

This is a collection of Ronald Reagan's radio commentaries in the mid-late 70s. I heard some of them recently when they were played on a local radio station. They are excellent!


31 posted on 08/19/2003 9:37:47 PM PDT by B Knotts
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"Now, if one man with a vision completely changed the course of a nation, why can't it happen in a single state?"

If "one man with a vision" - that could be none other than Tom McClintock. I say that because that is basically what Rush said about him today. Rush was very complimentary about Tom's 3 things he planned to do on his first day of office. "Now, there's a man with a vision."
32 posted on 08/19/2003 9:38:28 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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This is the 21st Century, not the Reagan 70's. Rush doesn't get it.
41 posted on 08/19/2003 9:47:33 PM PDT by tkathy
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I agree with Rush in principle. I have no doubt Tom McClintock would be an excellent Governor. The big question: is this state ready to embrace a conservative as Governor? Most conservatives think: not yet. At the same time we don't have to run away from and apologize for our message and we shouldn't. Arnold's not a conservative and it seems to me that we need more than electability to justifying get behind his candidacy. Does he have a plan that will improve California which at least is not in conflict with conservative principles? Look, we've cut the guy a lot of slack. Even Rush has so far not come out against him. But if the price for our support is muting or squelching our fundamental principles, we don't need a Republican Party here in California. In short, Arnold needs us more than we need him and we'll find who's right tomorrow.
58 posted on 08/19/2003 9:58:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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There's no better time to advance conservative principles than when they're most needed.

Nothing I can add to this. It's spot on!

68 posted on 08/19/2003 10:04:30 PM PDT by Bullish
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BTTT!!! I heard Rush talking about this article today on his program and was watching for it to be posted here.

I don't have a subscription to the WSJ, or would have posted it myself. Thanks!!!
70 posted on 08/19/2003 10:07:15 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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Bookmarked.
80 posted on 08/19/2003 10:14:08 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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