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To: Timesink
"He was confident that strong leadership, free enterprise, limited government, tax cuts and a strong defense were the solutions."

And these principles are still the solution. In California, it means CUT the spending, cut the government and cut the taxes. This is not rocket science.

Bustamante wants to fix government's mistakes by raising our taxes. He also wants to sock it to the "wealthy" to force them to pay their "fair" share. And he wants to force the corporations to pay more. Sheesh, this is simply the formula to drive even more business out of the state and to further increase the misery factor. Tough love he calls it. Tough love? Gray Davis and the liberal Democrats bankrupt the state and then they want to force the people to suffer even more for their mistakes? Sounds more like tough sh.... well, nevermind.

12 posted on 08/19/2003 9:18:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Conservative by nature... Republican by spirit... Patriot by heart... AND... ANTI-Liberal by GOD!)
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>>>And these principles are still the solution. In California, it means CUT the spending, cut the government and cut the taxes. This is not rocket science.

The twin pillars of fiscal conservatism, are tax cuts and reductions in government expenditures. Arnold has yet to prove he is even fiscally responsible. let alone a fiscal conservative.

Arnold has said, he favors getting California out of the red, so its social welfare programs will run more effectively and efficiently. That's highminded liberalism.

Arnold has also said, he wants to bring businesses back to California, so tax revenues will increase and the states social welfare programs will have the proper level of funding to operate. More highminded liberalism.

So far, Arnold has shown he is a liberal RINO and has nothing in common with Reagan, on economic or social issues..

17 posted on 08/19/2003 9:26:11 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Jim Robinson
What Rush left out was the HOW Reagan succeded getting his way when Democrats drug their feet.

Remember those fiery fireside chats?: He would say "Call your representatives in Washington, lets stop procrastinating and get these things done now. We can do it!"

He went straight to the public, over the heads of media and congress many times.
19 posted on 08/19/2003 9:26:39 PM PDT by Howie
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To: Jim Robinson
"Sounds more like tough sh...."

Exactly!!
37 posted on 08/19/2003 9:46:26 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - "The Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth")
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To: Jim Robinson
What do you think of the quote pulled by FreeReign in post #7? Can a conservative governor turn things around despite the ultrasocialist RAT Legislature that will stand in his way? Or would American conservatism overall be better off if we let the RATS completely destroy California's state government in a way where they're left with 100% of the blame?
48 posted on 08/19/2003 9:52:35 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: Jim Robinson
Bump!
77 posted on 08/19/2003 10:11:21 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Why do America's enemies desperately want DemocRATS back in power?)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well said, sir.
89 posted on 08/19/2003 10:24:00 PM PDT by panther33 (Proud to be an American, embarrassed to be a Californian)
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To: Jim Robinson

A Time for Choosing, aka The Speech


Given as a stump speech, at speaking engagements, and on a memorable night in 1964 in support of Barry Goldwater's presidential campaign. This version is from that broadcast.

I am going to talk of controversial things. I make no apology for this.

It's time we asked ourselves if we still know the freedoms intended for us by the Founding Fathers. James Madison said, "We base all our experiments on the capacity of mankind for self government."

This idea? that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.

You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream-the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path. Plutarch warned, "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits."

The Founding Fathers knew a government can't control the economy without controlling people. And they knew when a government sets out to do that, it must use force and coercion to achieve its purpose. So we have come to a time for choosing.

Public servants say, always with the best of intentions, "What greater service we could render if only we had a little more money and a little more power." But the truth is that outside of its legitimate function, government does nothing as well or as economically as the private sector.

Yet any time you and I question the schemes of the do-gooders, we're denounced as being opposed to their humanitarian goals. It seems impossible to legitimately debate their solutions with the assumption that all of us share the desire to help the less fortunate. They tell us we're always "against," never "for" anything.

We are for a provision that destitution should not follow unemployment by reason of old age, and to that end we have accepted Social Security as a step toward meeting the problem. However, we are against those entrusted with this program when they practice deception regarding its fiscal shortcomings, when they charge that any criticism of the program means that we want to end payments....

We are for aiding our allies by sharing our material blessings with nations which share our fundamental beliefs, but we are against doling out money government to government, creating bureaucracy, if not socialism, all over the world.

We need true tax reform that will at least make a start toward I restoring for our children the American Dream that wealth is denied to no one, that each individual has the right to fly as high as his strength and ability will take him.... But we can not have such reform while our tax policy is engineered by people who view the tax as a means of achieving changes in our social structure....

Have we the courage and the will to face up to the immorality and discrimination of the progressive tax, and demand a return to traditional proportionate taxation? . . . Today in our country the tax collector's share is 37 cents of -very dollar earned. Freedom has never been so fragile, so close to slipping from our grasp.

Are you willing to spend time studying the issues, making yourself aware, and then conveying that information to family and friends? Will you resist the temptation to get a government handout for your community? Realize that the doctor's fight against socialized medicine is your fight. We can't socialize the doctors without socializing the patients. Recognize that government invasion of public power is eventually an assault upon your own business. If some among you fear taking a stand because you are afraid of reprisals from customers, clients, or even government, recognize that you are just feeding the crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.

If all of this seems like a great deal of trouble, think what's at stake. We are faced with the most evil enemy mankind has known in his long climb from the swamp to the stars. There can be no security anywhere in the free world if there is no fiscal and economic stability within the United States. Those who ask us to trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state are architects of a policy of accommodation.

They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong. There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right. Winston Churchill said that "the destiny of man is not measured by material computation. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we are spirits-not animals." And he said, "There is something going on in time and space, and beyond time and space, which, whether we like it or not, spells duty."

You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.


"They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong. There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right."

Ronald Reagan had vision and knew how to project it. The short-sighted vision of today's conservatives pales in comparison.

1 Posted on 12/14/1999 13:18:27 PST by Jim Robinson (jimrob@psnw.com)
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240 posted on 08/20/2003 9:16:29 AM PDT by michigander
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To: Jim Robinson
"Sounds more like tough sh.... well, nevermind."

Well... actually it's pronounced "tough chit!" (unless you're in a public employee's union)

251 posted on 08/20/2003 10:25:32 AM PDT by SierraWasp (You are watching the Liberal monopolized California government collapse on it's own folly!!!)
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