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Why Texas Has Its Own Power Grid: the Electric Reliability Council of Texas
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| August 18, 2003
| Brendan I. Koerner
Posted on 08/19/2003 7:51:15 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
Texas is very independent-minded, very true. It's also very hot, very dry, and experiencing a boom in population growth from migration, both legal and illegal.
I moved my family from Texas to NY because of this trend. Too often we were placed under drought alert, thus limited use of water. Water is kind of important for survival, as is electricity. Thus, we felt it was time to pack up granny and head to the hills. LOL We prefer the temperate climate of upstate NY and the abundance of water...Must be that Y2K thinking...
To: Redbob
I know dats right!
To: new cruelty
Sometimes I must alienate friends in the Carolinas talking about the way we did things in Texas. But generally I found it to be true that most Texas communities try to look 20 to 30 years in the future when planning for water, roads and utilities. It's easier now to make that 2 lane road 4 lanes, make the lake large enough for future water needs or build a reliable grid than have to play catchup later on.
To: new cruelty
Why Texas Has Its Own Power Grid.Because we can! ;o)
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posted on
08/19/2003 8:44:05 AM PDT
by
al_c
To: jonalvy44
and traded Kay Bailey Hutchinson for Crusty ... did you eat paint chips when you were a kid?
To: ladtx
"particularly coal (Texas currently ranks fifth in annual production)"
Most Texans don't know that coal(lignite) is produced in Texas...there are mines from San Antonio to Texarkana. Approxmately 50% of Texas power comes from coal, most of which in mined in Texas.
To: mtbopfuyn
BECAUSE WE CAN!!!!
To: anotherdubya
Approxmately 50% of Texas power comes from coal, most of which in mined in Texas. I just recently sold a house and moved from Marshall where there are huge lignite mines all around the area. It was quite surprising to me when we first moved there in 1990.
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posted on
08/19/2003 8:52:18 AM PDT
by
ladtx
( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
To: jonalvy44
But you committed a major error by moving to the People's Republik of NY where Hitlery rules supreme and the RATS are everywhere. Plus, you can keep NY weather! It sux big time! After sufferring14 long years of almost permanent bad weather in NY, we have needed years of desert sunlight to warm up.
To: tx_eggman
Mind your manners, son.
To: Willie Green
An admirable, but ironic background for a state that has foisted NAFTA dependency and Enron Energy trading on the rest of the nation. Texas, thy name is hypocrisy. Ignorance, thy name is Willie Green.
NAFTA came from Washington, not Texas. Texans have little use for that cesspool to the south, other than a fine place to import yard workers from.
Enron energy trading was ironically enough, a product of California democrats. Notice Texas has no power problems and did deregulation right.
To: new cruelty
Texas rocks because they have a lot of windmills and are building more as we speak.
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posted on
08/19/2003 9:58:00 AM PDT
by
biblewonk
(Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
To: new cruelty
unlike, say, New York City or Detroit, whose residents found out the hard way that lots of their power comes from Canada
It was the other way, around, actually - Canadians (Ontarians) found out the hard way that their power is interconnected with grids south of the border. Remember, the focus for Thursday's blackout is in Ohio right now, not anywhere in Canada.
To: MeeknMing
Morning, MnM. This is an interesting read.
To: All
To: tx_eggman
just a few...haha
Yes, but I'm here now to help GW win NY in 2004!
To: Redbob
Redbob:
I used to work for Texas Utilities (now TXU). The cutting of the cable in the middle of the night was carried out by a TU crew at the direction of the then-president of Texas Utilities. At his direction the broken cable was cut into small sections, each was encased in lucite and then handed out to politicians and competitors as paperweights. I have always thought this was a perfect "Texas" true story.
If this action had not been taken two things would have happened: 1. Utilities in the State of Texas would have come under federal regulation, and 2. The sources of fuel for Texas powerplants (coal and natural gas) would also have come under federal regulation. As a Texan I see nothing good about either result.
To: ladtx
There are old underground coal mines that were closed in the early 1900's. The above ground mining began in the late 70's - with the OPEC oil problem. Even with the environmental requirements to put the land back to original status (actually, it is MUCH better), there is still a lot of coal being mined,
Near Mt. Pleasant, home of RINO Tx Senator Ratliff, this mining has been going on for about 25 years. It is fascinating to see those huge draglines digging the coal, and to know that they are still in that same area after all this time.
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posted on
08/19/2003 11:40:51 AM PDT
by
mathluv
To: Willie Green
Texas did not foist Enron on the rest of the nation. Wall Street demanded that Enron do innovative things to get the share price up.
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posted on
08/19/2003 11:50:48 AM PDT
by
trutexan
To: taxcontrol
This sounds just like what California did. Did you forget your sarcasm tag?
As a better idea, lets replicate what Texas did across the country and break the supergrids up into state sized pieces and build more poweer plants. (preferable nukes). That way we put and end to the FERC and we get more clean power. Each state supplies for itself.
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posted on
08/19/2003 12:16:17 PM PDT
by
John O
(God Save America (Please))
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