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Hitler and Hillary
Worldnetdaily ^ | 08/18/03 | Vox Day

Posted on 08/18/2003 9:27:28 AM PDT by bedolido

Until Herschel's discovery of Uranus in 1781, it was considered a matter of certainty that there were six planets. But the fact that everyone knew this to be true did not make it so. In like manner, college students and other insufferable connoisseurs of all human wisdom "know" that the historical Nazi Party epitomizes the extreme right-wing.

It is informative to first note an academic definition of communism: "A social, political and economic system characterized by the revolutionary struggle to create a society which has an absence of classes, and the common ownership of the means of production and subsistence and centralized governmental control over the economy."

And yet, the definition of its supposed opposite, by the same academic source, is rather different. "Nazism: The ideology and policies of Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist German Worker's Party from 1921 to 1945." Isn't it a strange sort of opposite that claims to be a socialist worker's party, as opposed to, well, a socialist worker's party?

Consider 13 of the most relevant points from the Nazi Party's 25-point program of 1920, its Munich manifesto:

7. We demand that the State shall make it its first duty to promote the industry and livelihood of the citizens of the State.

10. The activities of the individual must not clash with the interests of the whole, but must proceed within the framework of the community and must be for the general good.

11. Abolition of incomes unearned by work. Breaking of the thraldom of interest.

13. We demand the nationalization of all businesses which have been amalgamated.

14. We demand that there shall be profit sharing in the great industries.

15. We demand a generous development of provision for old age.

17. We demand a land reform suitable to our national requirements, the passing of a law for the confiscation without compensation of land for communal purposes, the abolition of interest on land mortgages, and prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand ruthless war upon all those whose activities are injurious to the common interest.

20. The schools must aim at teaching the pupil to understand the idea of the State. We demand the education of specially gifted children of poor parents, whatever their class or occupation, at the expense of the State.

21. The State must apply itself to raising the standard of health in the nation ...

23. We demand legal warfare against conscious political lies and their dissemination in the press. In order to facilitate the creation of a German national press…. It must be forbidden to publish newspapers which are damaging to the national welfare.

24. We demand liberty for all religious denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it. The Party ... does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession.

25. That all the foregoing requirements may be realized we demand the creation of a strong central national authority; unconditional authority of the central legislative body over the entire Reich and its organizations in general;

These supposedly right-wing extremists were calling for national health care, social security, state-run schools, communal land development and centralized government control. They were determined advocates of gun control. And if they did not believe it took a village to raise a child, they were certainly enthusiastic about public youth programs. And then there were the complaints about vast conspiracies in the private press. Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

While some argue that the National Socialists became "conservative" as a result of their rapprochement with the great German industrialists following the final defeat of the Strasser wing of the party in late 1932, this conveniently skates over the fact that a) the 12 years concerned represents half of the Nazi Party's lifetime, and, b) Many elements of the avowedly socialist 1920 program were retained after 1933 when the National Socialists took power. Once in power, Vladimir Lenin, too, made capitalistic compromises with his New Economic Program, but this somehow never caused him to be defined as a man of the Right.

The National Socialists were not as radically left as the Soviet Communists, nor are most American Democrats as far left as were the National Socialists. But an examination of their ideological cores reveals the undeniable philosophical kinship between these three parties of the Left.

Perhaps the Democratic Party should consider a new battle cry should their most famous face decide to enter the presidential race in 2004. Sieg Hillary!

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Vox Day is a novelist and Christian libertarian. He is a member of the SFWA, Mensa and the Southern Baptist Convention. He has been down with Madden since 1992.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: agenda; and; dncplatform; hillary; hitler; leftists; liberals; manifesto; nazism; socialists
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1 posted on 08/18/2003 9:27:29 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
If you start reading this article half way down, you would think the political planks were written by Hillay herself!
2 posted on 08/18/2003 9:33:16 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: bedolido
Great article.
3 posted on 08/18/2003 9:33:45 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: FastCoyote
We need that "I love country music" bumper sticker posted here, please.
4 posted on 08/18/2003 9:34:43 AM PDT by norraad
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To: Gritty

5 posted on 08/18/2003 9:41:21 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY (((Heil Hitlery!!)))
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To: bedolido
>> which has an absence of classes

All the communist "leaders" and their retinues led and still lead opulent lives, with rich housing and multitudes of servants and special stores and dachas. Fidel even now is worth upwards of $100 million. Look at Saddam's palaces all over Iraq. What are these university idiots thinking????

Throughout all known history. the state has always been an instrument for one class to exploit another. Totalitarian state = total exploitation. Marx himself knew this. He preached that the state would wither away, and all the little socialists understood and nodded their heads. Of course it is total fantasy to vest all power in the state and then expect the state to wither away, but true believers never learn. Marx was one more academic idiot.

End of lesson. Grow up, ye stupid professors.

6 posted on 08/18/2003 9:44:16 AM PDT by T'wit
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To: bedolido
At work there is a rabid clintoon lover and Bush hater who dared to compare the right wing with the Nazis (interesting since his father was a US citizen born in Czechslovokia and his mother was German). I then made him tell me what "Nazi" was short for and he correctly said "National Socialist German Worker's Party". At that point I swooped in and pointed out that ALL socialist parties are LEFT WING parties like the DemocRats.

He doesn't compare the right to the Nazis anymore. Except to his buddies on DU.
7 posted on 08/18/2003 9:45:05 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: bedolido
It is not true that the socialist workers party moved away from from the industrialists and became conservative, they moved closer to the industrialists and became fascists.

Fascism is actually a more apt description of the Progressive Democrats, of which Hillary is a member. Fascism is a kind of quid pro quo relationship between industry and the state, where the state passes regulations which benefit industry supporters of their agenda. We see this today in some of the energy companies who support environmental regulations which increase the cost to consumers, and industry profits at the same time.
8 posted on 08/18/2003 9:54:29 AM PDT by Eva
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To: bedolido
7. We demand that the State shall make it its first duty to promote the industry and livelihood of the citizens of the State.

As if that's not the job of any government.

9 posted on 08/18/2003 9:59:39 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Too skinny.....much, much too skinny!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10 posted on 08/18/2003 10:25:27 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: Eva
This is NOT belittling your post, but I have an observation...

I have never seen two definitions of FASCISM that are the same. Your definition DOES describe what is happening in this country though with the insurance-healthcare-"Legislative Branch" ; energy-bank-"Executive Branch" ; and other interesting mutual back-scratching links.

Is there an TRUE definition of Fascism?

I had always thought that it meant a strong nationalistic sentiment with protectionist laws and regs - I never saw anything wrong with that since it is the principal this country had been operating on until recently - and it is the reason the USA is the most advanced in the world (but falling fast since we lost the principles)
11 posted on 08/18/2003 10:31:54 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: biblewonk
govt's job is to protect natural rights, not to promote industry.
12 posted on 08/18/2003 10:34:40 AM PDT by bc2 (http://www.thinkforyourself.us)
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To: bc2
govt's job is to protect natural rights, not to promote industry.

Not true. Native american government cared nothing about promoting industry, what happened to those governments?

13 posted on 08/18/2003 10:41:04 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrisssssssstian)
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To: bedolido
Here's another good article along the same lines:

How Nazis are like the *Radical* Left Wing

BTW, I like the tornado elephant on your profile page. Hope you don't mind if I "borrowed" it.

14 posted on 08/18/2003 10:45:17 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: bedolido
Bedolido, Your imformation is very valuable. Thanks for the input. Your truthfullness is helping everyone to keep the world free.
15 posted on 08/18/2003 10:47:12 AM PDT by Soliv123
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16 posted on 08/18/2003 10:55:06 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Eva
Perhaps one reason so many members of old-wealth families, such as the Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Goulds, ect. are Democrats--they want to use the power of government to preserve their fortunes and the status quo. They simply do not want to see wealth accumulation by any of us rabble.
17 posted on 08/18/2003 10:57:26 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator
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To: sweetliberty
I am a little dense today--please decode.
18 posted on 08/18/2003 10:59:52 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator
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To: sweetliberty
Thank yew!
19 posted on 08/18/2003 11:01:54 AM PDT by norraad
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To: norraad
Perhaps you could respond to post #18.
20 posted on 08/18/2003 11:02:57 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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