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The Lie Behind the Lie Detector
AntiPolygraph.org ^ | August 18, 2003 | George W. Maschke and Gino J. Scalabrini

Posted on 08/18/2003 8:07:43 AM PDT by George Maschke

The 3rd edition of AntiPolygraph.org's free e-book, The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, is now on-line and may be downloaded as a 1 mb PDF file here:

http://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf

This new, revised and expanded edition includes updated chapters on polygraph validity, policy, and procedure, as well as detailed information on how to pass (or beat) a polygraph test.

It will be of interest to anyone who may some day face a polygraph examination, whether in the context of a criminal investigation, or as a requirement for employment with a government agency or contractor.

The Lie Behind the Lie Detector


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: espionage; liedetector; nationalsecurity; polygraph; sabotage; terrorism
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1 posted on 08/18/2003 8:07:46 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke
Cool beans! I've always heard bad things about these bad things.
2 posted on 08/18/2003 8:11:01 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
Cool beans! I've always heard bad things about these bad things.

Liar! Prove it!

3 posted on 08/18/2003 8:13:15 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: VRWCmember
Liar! Prove it!

(hooking myself up to a lie-detector....)

4 posted on 08/18/2003 8:15:18 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: George Maschke
I always thought Tequila Shooters were more effective.
5 posted on 08/18/2003 8:16:05 AM PDT by najida (What handbasket? And where did you say we were going?)
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To: Lazamataz
Question #1 for a lie detector test.......

Are you capable of creating an alternate personality at will?

A clean "Yes" answer shall invalidate any further questions.

6 posted on 08/18/2003 8:16:51 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: Lazamataz
(hooking myself up to a lie-detector....)

I'm breathless, awaiting your posting of the results.

7 posted on 08/18/2003 8:20:36 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: blackdog
Question #1: Are you capable of creating an alternate personality at will?

Answer #1: Hell's bells! I'm capable of creating alternate realities at will!

Results #1: Subject telling truth.

8 posted on 08/18/2003 8:20:36 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: VRWCmember
Statement by VRWCmember: I'm breathless

Results: Subject is lying. Subject is gasping for air, similar to Subject H.R. Clinton.

9 posted on 08/18/2003 8:21:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
Results: Subject is lying. Subject is gasping for air, similar to Subject H.R. Clinton.

Your results don't look so good either:


(ignore the legend and the titles on the printout of Laz's polygraph test above)

10 posted on 08/18/2003 8:26:01 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Lazamataz
Remember that episode of Barney Miller where internal affairs puts the precinct on "The Box"(that internal affairs guy was great on that show!)

The one detective(Steve Something...) who was a genius and sort of ignored by the rest of the detectives explained that he was from another planet on the box. He was the last to be tested and since his resulting birth origin could not be true, the whole precinct's tests were tossed.

11 posted on 08/18/2003 8:32:13 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: VRWCmember
Statement by Subject VRWCmember: "Your results don't look so good either"

Results: Subject is lying. Laz's results are peachy keen.

12 posted on 08/18/2003 8:33:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: blackdog
The one detective(Steve Something...) who was a genius and sort of ignored by the rest of the detectives explained that he was from another planet on the box. He was the last to be tested and since his resulting birth origin could not be true, the whole precinct's tests were tossed.

I *loved* that character. His nonchalant genius was truly hilarious. One episode, a college student had put put together, for his college thesis, a nuclear bomb minus the plutonium core. The whole precinct was abuzz with "This ain't real!" "No way could this be anything more than junk!" and even a bomb expert was called in, and his verdict: "This is a pile of parts that wouldn't ever work."

Well, Steve comes in, and walks by the device. Without barely casting it a look, he nonchalantly says "Hey, where'd you get the nuclear bomb?"

13 posted on 08/18/2003 8:36:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: VRWCmember
Here's a sample of an actual polygraph chart, in case you're interested. The tracings, from top to bottom, are 1) thoracic breathing; 2) abdominal breathing; 3) galvanic skin response (a function of perspiration); and 4) cardiovascular activity:


14 posted on 08/18/2003 8:43:33 AM PDT by George Maschke
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To: George Maschke
I've never forgotten what Senator Sam Ervin said, during the Watergate hearings, about the lie detector:

"...Twentieth century witchcraft..."
15 posted on 08/18/2003 8:44:44 AM PDT by VMI70 (...but two Wrights made an airplane)
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To: George Maschke
I assume the red dots are called lies and the green dots are truths?

I cannot tell the difference in the results. This is similar to divining by rod for water, no?

16 posted on 08/18/2003 8:45:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: George Maschke
The statistics are similar to those involved in urine tests. They can program it to avoid false positives, which means that maybe Bill Clinton could pass. Or they can program it never to miss a lie, which causes it to 'accuse' innocent people. It's not a foolproof device.
17 posted on 08/18/2003 9:03:20 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Arthur C. Clarke)
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To: Lazamataz
Steve Landesberg, playing Arthur Dietrick in the Barney Miller Show. It ran from 1975 till 82'. An amazing show when you consider it all took place in one room in one act.

Where have all the good writers gone? Iloved the Jackie Mason show during it's brief few month run.

18 posted on 08/18/2003 9:06:15 AM PDT by blackdog
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To: George Maschke
All I see is a red "X". Does that mean you failed?
19 posted on 08/18/2003 9:07:55 AM PDT by chadwimc
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To: blackdog
Jackie Mason rules!

Especially when he gets mad!

20 posted on 08/18/2003 9:09:41 AM PDT by norraad
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