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Ohio Utility Says Grid Had Problems Hours Before Its Lines Failed
AP via TBO ^ | August 17,2003 | H. Josef Hebert

Posted on 08/17/2003 5:35:33 PM PDT by John W

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Ohio utility under intense scrutiny in the biggest blackout in the nation's history said Sunday there were problems, including strange voltage fluctuations, in the Midwest power grid hours before its transmission lines failed. "What happened ... is much more complex than a few tripped power lines in our system," said Todd Schneider, a spokesman for FirstEnergy Corp., which went on the offensive Sunday after being targeted by investigators.

He said that some of the unusual power conditions occurred "as early as noon" - more than three hours before FirstEnergy's high-voltage lines, which have been the focus of investigators, failed.

In a statement late Sunday, Michehl Gent, head of an industry group investigating Thursday's massive power outage, acknowledged that "events that occurred on one utility's system may have been affected by events on utility systems elsewhere" in the power grid.

"Although we may have identified the area where the cascading outages began," Gent said, referring to the lines in Ohio that failed, "any attempt on our part to identify the cause of the outages at this point would be speculative and premature."

FirstEnergy Corp., the country's fourth-largest investor-owned utility company with 4.3 million customers in Ohio, Pennsylvania and New Jersey, for three days has been at the center of the blackout investigation.

NERC said that as of Sunday evening all the electric transmission systems that had been affected by the blackout were again operating reliably, except for a link between Michigan and Ontario, Canada that remains out "due to operational security reasons." It did not elaborate, but said the line was expected to return to service soon. Twenty-one power generating plants remained down, about a fifth of those that had been shut down by the blackout, NERC said.

Meanwhile, Canadian officials complained that they were not notified promptly when problems began to emerge in the eastern grid interconnection ahead of the blackout. Such notification is required under a 1965 agreement and it "did not happen this past Thursday," said Ontario Premier Ernie Eves in Toronto.

Federal investigators joined industry teams Sunday in the search for clues into what triggered the blackout that left all or parts of eight states dark from Michigan to New York City last Thursday.

Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham promised to move as quickly as possible to get answers and address whatever problem is found, but said so far there's no indication who might be responsible.

"We can't allow it to linger long. We need to address it," said Abraham, who made the rounds of the television talks shows Sunday and repeated a theme of confidence that the cause of the massive power disruption will be uncovered.

Administration officials acknowledge that the mystery surrounding the start of the blackout may not be easily unraveled.

"It's going to take some time," said Abraham on NBC's "Meet the Press." He refused repeatedly during the day to speculate on the cause, whether it was human error or a mechanical glitch, or where the problem might have begun.

The NERC investigation has focused on the likelihood of a combination of mechanical glitches and human failures as it tries to piece together second-by-second events during the hours before the widespread blackout, focusing on power lines in northern Ohio.

NERC, which was created after another major blackout in 1965 to monitor the power grid and set voluntary reliability standards, has said the problem appeared to have cascaded after the breakdown in the three high-voltage lines south of Cleveland in the area serviced by utilities owned by FirstEnergy.

FirstEnergy acknowledged that an alarm that should have flashed a red warning on computer monitors when power was being lost, did not sound in its central control room.

That "certainly contributed to it," said Gent, appearing Sunday on ABC's "This Week." But he said the alarm did not fail at other locations where technicians were supposed to monitor the lines.

"We have to dig into this to see why the alarm wasn't noticed by somebody else" in addition to why the alarm was not working at the FirstEnergy control center.

Later, appearing on CNN, Gent said when the third line "tripped" - or lost power - "that should have separated the local system ... and the rest of the grid should have remained intact."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: blackout; cause; firstenergy; powergrids
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1 posted on 08/17/2003 5:35:34 PM PDT by John W
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To: John W; Molly Pitcher; ohioWfan
Sure, yeah right, uh huh, sure.......
2 posted on 08/17/2003 5:39:36 PM PDT by b4its2late (Every time I think about exercise, I lie down, look up towards Mars, till the thought goes away.)
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To: b4its2late
Meaning?
3 posted on 08/17/2003 5:43:55 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
Guess I didn't take it as typical cya,particularly since this stuff can be determined at some point.What concrned me in the article was trouble that long before the big one and it wasn't caught and stopped and this tidbit:"...except for a link between Michigan and Ontario, Canada that remains out "due to operational security reasons."
4 posted on 08/17/2003 5:50:16 PM PDT by John W
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To: MEG33
My comment was from another thread.......just carrying on that we in NY suffered from some indiscretion in OH.....
5 posted on 08/17/2003 5:51:21 PM PDT by b4its2late (Every time I think about exercise, I lie down, look up towards Mars, till the thought goes away.)
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To: MEG33
Nothing series........
6 posted on 08/17/2003 5:52:01 PM PDT by b4its2late (Every time I think about exercise, I lie down, look up towards Mars, till the thought goes away.)
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To: b4its2late
I was looking for something hugh....;)
7 posted on 08/17/2003 5:59:36 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: John W
I think someone thought the alarm was too sensitive and turned it off!(Another worthless opinion from the gallery!)
8 posted on 08/17/2003 6:02:46 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: John W
except for a link between Michigan and Ontario, Canada that remains out "due to operational security reasons."

I find this interesting too. And is it just bad luck or coincidence that multiple monitors failed to detect and intervene in Ohio?

9 posted on 08/17/2003 6:27:09 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: John W
And cyberterrorism is ruled out exactly why?
10 posted on 08/17/2003 6:28:48 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: John W
Actually, I recall reading a poster's comments, early on in the crisis, about a very strange brownout experience he had in Ohio. I believe it was on the megathread from the other day.
11 posted on 08/17/2003 6:35:53 PM PDT by witnesstothefall
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To: b4its2late
It WAS my fan!!
12 posted on 08/17/2003 6:39:29 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: ohioWfan
Am I going to have to drive over there and hit you upside the head? Wait toaster oven is done before you go and turn on the hair dryer! Gesh...
13 posted on 08/17/2003 7:00:28 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
You guys across the line kept your power, didn't you??

I'd better listen to you............... no electric rollers with the iron plugged in either??

14 posted on 08/17/2003 7:57:02 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Dolphy
except for a link between Michigan and Ontario, Canada that remains out "due to operational security reasons."

"I find this interesting too. And is it just bad luck or coincidence that multiple monitors failed to detect and intervene in Ohio?"

According to other news reports, neither the Canadian system nor the Michigan Systems were fully restored at the time of this article. They probably wanted to get the systems more stable and restoration more complete before tying them together. Trying to synchronize two systems that are still not stable would be asking for trouble.

As far as the First Energy alarms, my guess is that the operators saw the problem, but hoped to get past the peak load hours without incident. Power System Operators did this all the time up until now. It is very expensive, both in terms of money and politics, to shed load for something that "might" happen. In this case, those operators probably lost the gamble on that day.

15 posted on 08/17/2003 8:17:49 PM PDT by power2
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To: ohioWfan
FirstEnergy Corp should have never run that high voltage line down to Amish country...
16 posted on 08/17/2003 8:18:44 PM PDT by OrioleFan
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To: ohioWfan
From what the local paper said, PA had power to spare...turn the AC to 'frosty.' Actually, they pinpointed PA staying lite to a power station in Valley Forge...apparently, they were on their toes and did whatever it was they had to do to stop the domino effect that was happening. Of course it could have been that I was defrosting our 30 year old 'beer/pop/extra milk' refridgerator (in our garage)...that spared the extra juice for the Commonwealth...thats it...just thank me!
17 posted on 08/17/2003 8:19:17 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: power2
As far as the First Energy alarms, my guess is that the operators saw the problem, but hoped to get past the peak load hours without incident. Power System Operators did this all the time up until now. It is very expensive, both in terms of money and politics, to shed load for something that "might" happen. In this case, those operators probably lost the gamble on that day.

This sounds like the kind of value judgement they may have made after the first line but are you suggesting that they made it again after the second line? As I recall these lines didn't fail all at once.

18 posted on 08/17/2003 8:26:59 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: OrioleFan
Hmmmmmmm........must be related to Homeland Security.....

How to spot a terrorist in Ohio......


19 posted on 08/17/2003 8:29:35 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom
We actually got power transferred from another company in Ohio, so we were out of power for only 5 hours......

Oh........and the Commonwealth should give you a citation for your efforts to save power........ :o)

btw, the above picture I posted might be applicable to Pennsylvania as well........feel free to 'borrow' it, if you wish.

20 posted on 08/17/2003 8:33:41 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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