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Not only clown cause, but think about it, when you drive a car, its not a right, its a priviledge. Well, guess what: when you fly its not a right, either. Its a priviledge.

If you have a problem, privacy-wise, getting on a plane, then maybe you should find alternate modes of transportation.

You two have it backward: Unless you can find a specific authorization in the Constitution that says: The federal government may ask citizens to identify themselves for the purpose of traveling and must subject themselves to warrantless search as a condition of traveling, then the government has no such legitimate power or authority.

YOU may hold the opinion that the government SHOULD be able to do these things, but the way our system is built, unless the government was granted a power, such as a power to hand out the priviledge of automobile driving, then it has no such power.

Anarchy! Right? Wrong. Airlines could make these security decisions on their own. As could auto insurers. Then perhaps we'd not have so many old farts who can't drive anymore on the road. State issued licenses are easily forged and have become part of the illegal immigrant underground.

There are VAST areas of our economy that are well regulated by private industry organizations, and in which they is no government grant of priviledge implied.

Well, guess what: when you fly its not a right, either. Its a priviledge.

So Rosa Parks should just shut up and sit in the back of a bus, since that's not a Right either?

If you have a problem, privacy-wise, getting on a plane, then maybe you should find alternate modes of transportation.

Personally, I don't have a problem providing them with ID. I do have a problem with federal employees searching me without a warrant, banning me from flying armed, and general harassment.

As such, I am refusing to fly until they change all of these 'policies'. They need me a lot more than I need them. I'll simply drive to my destination.