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You two have it backward: Unless you can find a specific authorization in the Constitution that says: The federal government may ask citizens to identify themselves for the purpose of traveling and must subject themselves to warrantless search as a condition of traveling, then the government has no such legitimate power or authority.

YOU may hold the opinion that the government SHOULD be able to do these things, but the way our system is built, unless the government was granted a power, such as a power to hand out the priviledge of automobile driving, then it has no such power.

Anarchy! Right? Wrong. Airlines could make these security decisions on their own. As could auto insurers. Then perhaps we'd not have so many old farts who can't drive anymore on the road. State issued licenses are easily forged and have become part of the illegal immigrant underground.

There are VAST areas of our economy that are well regulated by private industry organizations, and in which they is no government grant of priviledge implied.

That authorization became implied, more than ever, after the events of 2001.

Anyway it is a power that should be given to the federal government, now. (and if not now, then when?)

If the choice is to fly safely, but to lose the right to privacy vs. flying unsafe (because some dirtbag mindbot wants to have 72 virgins in paradise and was never screened/checked for high explosives before boaring a plane) and having my privacy, well then I choose the former; the latter is just NOT practical/realistic/logical.

Any other choice except one which increases safety, is absurd.

Yeah, yeah there's always somebody who makes a Federal issue out of it every time they are asked to show an ID card (usually they are on line in front of me when I'm in a hurry). Same kind of people are writing manefestos in their cabins in Montana and wear Dr. Seuss socks.

You two have it backward: Unless you can find a specific authorization in the Constitution that says: The federal government may ask citizens to identify themselves for the purpose of traveling and must subject themselves to warrantless search as a condition of traveling, then the government has no such legitimate power or authority.

Well stated.

I'm glad to see there is someone else here who still understands the Constitution and Freedom.

As for the others, I'm going to buy stock in companies that produce black leather boots. Judging from the mindset of many sheep, as shown on this thread, I'd make a lot of money.