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A New Day, Some New Science
Family Issues In Policy and Culture. ^ | August 15, 2003 | Pete Winn

Posted on 08/16/2003 12:12:19 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

Move over, Darwin. Intelligent Design has arrived, and it's time to welcome the new kid to town.

"In the future, everyone will be entitled to 15 minutes of fame." artist Andy Warhol.

Darwinism - the notion that all species of plants and animals evolved from earlier forms, and that a blind process, natural selection, determines which forms survive - has had a grip on intellectual culture for 150 years.

Now advocates of a relatively new way of thinking about the origins of life say it's long past the time for the dead Charles Darwin (and adherents of his dying theory) to realize their 15 minutes are up and welcome a new kid to town. It's called Intelligent Design (ID) - the idea that the intricacies of life are too complex to have merely happened randomly. To coin a bromide - "ID is a theory whose time has finally come."

Indeed, you can tell ID has "arrived" because, in the last couple of years, the theory has made a major splash as state and local school boards have debated whether to allow students to learn about ID and other alternatives to Darwin's theory of evolution.

You can also tell because some top academics are publishing articles in top scientific journals about it.

But perhaps the best sign that ID has "made the big time" - pro-ID videos are being shown on television. Even public television.

Since May, "Unlocking the Mystery of Life" has aired on more than a dozen major PBS affiliates. Publicly funded TV stations in Miami, Baltimore, Cleveland, New York, Los Angeles, Seattle, Washington, D.C., and elsewhere, have shown thousands of viewers the Focus on the Family/Illustra Media video, which makes a positive case for Intelligent Design theory.

It's a milestone, according to Dr. Mark Hartwig, worldview analyst at Focus on the Family. It's almost a miracle that the film, which explores the discovery of some of the amazingly intricate complexities that are present in the cell, even made it to public TV.

"Evolution has basically been the official religion of PBS," Hartwig said. "To see them allowing 'heretics' in the 'pulpit' is a remarkable thing."

For Dr. Stephen Meyer, director and senior fellow of the Center for Science and Culture at Seattle's Discovery Institute, the TV airings are signs of a larger trend - the growing acceptance of Intelligent Design as a scientific theory at the same time serious cracks in the edifice of Darwinism are beginning to show up.

"We've been really delighted by this development, because PBS reflects the consensus in the scientific world," Meyer said. "For many, many years, it has aired mainly programs that promote a Darwinian evolutionary point of view."

Added Hartwig: "What I'm hoping is that this is a sign that the people are beginning to take what I call a 'truly liberal attitude' towards ID, and that is: 'If there's a substantive case to be made here (against evolutionism), let's air it.' "

Blowing Darwin 'Out of the Water'

The case against Darwinism - and for ID - is substantive and substantial. Hartwig and Meyer say academic philosophers and scientists are beginning to publish books with major academic publishers and articles in major scientific journals questioning some of the presuppositions of Darwinism.

"The debate about Darwinism - and the debate about Intelligent Design - is being validated at a very high level of academic discourse, and it's getting very difficult to ignore," Meyer said. "Most biologists have defended Darwinism as a 'well-supported theory,' and many of the scientists who are a part of the Intelligent Design movement are challenging that idea, and in fact many who aren't a part of the movement are critiquing various elements of Darwinian theory."

Hartwig and Meyer are reluctant to publicize the names of pro-ID scientists and the academic journals publishing their research, for fear that Darwinists may exert pressure to try to squelch the studies.

There is absolutely no doubt, however, that ID is making inroads in local and state school districts where, Hartwig maintains, it is blowing Darwinism "out of the water."

Credit belongs not only to the openness of school board members, but to the compelling messages contained in "Unlocking the Mystery of Life," and a companion video called "Icons of Evolution."

Jim Fitzgerald, president of Coldwater Media, which produced "Icons" in association with Focus on the Family, said thanks to the passage of the No Child Left Behind education reform law, every state will have an opportunity to reevaluate its science standards over the next four or five years.

"These battles are going to be ongoing for a number of years," Fitzgerald said.

Already, ID is gaining hold.

• In Ohio, a decision was made last December by a nearly unanimous vote of the Ohio Board of Education to require students to critically analyze key aspects of criticism of Darwinian theory.

"Additionally, though the state board did not mandate the teaching of Intelligent Design, many of the board members made it clear they understood that there was a local option for individual teachers to discuss with their students alternative theories to Darwinism," Meyer said.

• In the Cobb County (Ga.) school district, which encompasses greater Atlanta, the school board passed a "Teach the Controversy" proposal recognizing that there are scientists on both sides of the evolution issue, and students need to know the arguments from both the perspective that favors Darwinism and the critique of it, as well.

"Icons of Evolution," by the way, was broadcast on local commercial TV stations in Ohio before the state school board voted.

"We have also had a number of people approach their local cable companies asking them to show the video," Fitzgerald said. "One (unidentified) gentleman in Georgia got the video into 350,000 homes. And he bought radio advertising time to let people know when it was going to be shown."

The Real ID

What's the science behind ID's momentum? According to Meyer, "New discoveries in fields like palentology and molecular and cell biology are putting Darwinism under such intense pressure, it will not survive."

"In fact, we've learned a lot about biology since the Civil War - that's really how long it's been since the theory came into being," Meyer said. "I don't think much of biology fits with Darwinian theory. We're learning that life is much more complex than people imagined when Darwinian theory was first being formulated. That has created challenges to the Darwinian explanation of where we came from."

Perhaps the best way to understand the complexity argument is to consider DNA, the building block of human life, which ID adherents say could not have simply "developed" randomly.

"Bill Gates, the computer guru behind Microsoft, has compared DNA to a computer program," Meyer said, "only much more complex than anything we've ever created. We ask people to reflect about that. Bill Gates hires computer programmers to design his software. If there is, effectively, software in the cell, that is powerfully suggestive evidence that there must have been a 'programmer' - an intelligent designer of life itself."

In the end, the job is simply to boldly go where no non-Darwinist theory has ever gone before. The idea that their case is finding listeners and people willing to consider the truth about origins - whether from television, academic discussions or in public school classrooms - simply delights ID adherents.

"Darwinism still has sway in some quarters, but that won't always be the case," Hartwig said, "It's basically a new day. It may still be morning, but it's definitely a new day."

FOR MORE INFORMATION
1. The two videos "Unlocking the Mystery of Life" and "Icons of Evolution" are available from Focus on the Family as part of a video set, "The Evolution Set."

2. For information on Intelligent Design, please see the Discovery Institute Web site.

3. The video "Icons of Evolution" is available for placement on local cable TV systems, or local broadcast stations," free of charges - if you meet certain modest restrictions. Jim Fitzgerald, president of Coldwater Media, producer of "Icons of Evolution," said he anyone interested only needs to call (719) 488-8670 to obtain advance permission and let him know of their plans.


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To: e_engineer
Here is some practical advice: After you have written your reply but before you hit the post button, read your post slowly. Replace any mathematical symbols (+, -, =, ==, /) in your post with words that convey the same meaning. Try to write in complete sentences whenever possible. The extra time you spend to make your post readable shows respect for your fellow freepers.

ROTFLMAO! That sure worked well. I saw his reply!

121 posted on 08/17/2003 11:27:34 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Stultis
You're still talkng about the present 'fallen' world. In christian theology, this cursed system came after the fiirst human rebelled.
In Darwinite Theology, of course, this is heresy.
122 posted on 08/17/2003 11:30:52 AM PDT by metacognative
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To: metacognative
In christian theology, this cursed system came after the fiirst human rebelled. In Darwinite Theology, of course, this is heresy.

Could you please provide an authoritative source for that statement?

123 posted on 08/17/2003 11:40:42 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: gore3000
After some 8 years of battling Clintonites here and other places I grew a bit bored with the same old stuff, plus the battle was over, the US was a free country again. We were still in election mode though so I decided to pick a name which would show my views right off ... Gore3000. The conservatives understood the joke right off, to the others I cannot bother explaining it.

As I surfed around FR, I noticed the evolution threads and was horrified that in a conservative site such as this, the atheists were running rampant, so I decided to take the battle to the evolutionists. Many think little of evolution, but it is pretty central in the agenda of the left. It supports atheism, moral relativism, and the wholesale attack on Christianity. I have written three articles on the subject here at FreeRepublic on why evolution is not science. For my views on the subject check out:

Bye Bye ... Darwin

Evidence ... Disproving --- Evolution

Amazing ... Creatures

Hope you like them, and feel free to discuss them with me by freepmail. There are even more articles you might enjoy at ... DesignedUniverse .

My particular favorites ...

evolution is so ubiquitous ---

why are there no precambrian fossils and ...

where are all the skeletons for short necked giraffes ?

Main Entry: ubiq·ui·tous
Pronunciation: yü-'bi-kw&-t&s
Function: adjective
Date: 1837
: existing or being everywhere at the same time : constantly encountered : WIDESPREAD
- ubiq·ui·tous·ly adverb
- ubiq·ui·tous·ness noun

All the evos can come up with are old baboon skulls ... paste and glue schlock --- propaganda - brainwashing - pogroms ?

Main Entry: 1po·grom
Pronunciation: 'pO-gr&m, 'pä-; pO-'gräm, p&- Function: noun
Etymology: Yiddish, from Russian, literally, devastation Date: 1903
: an organized massacre of helpless people; specifically : such a massacre of Jews

124 posted on 08/17/2003 11:52:54 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Honcho Bongs
HB,

Er yeah, let's see if I understand you correctly. You can't describe what it is that you believe and then say that I believe in myths even though I have not said so. I have only pointed out to you that no one has yet figured out how life came into being. Many have tried but all have failed. If you are comfortable with your ignorance so be it. I would rather have my curiosity satisfied.

As far assertions go you have in fact been proving my own assertion that no one knows how life got here in the first place and by your own words

"Gee, if I could answer that ..."

you are not going to mar my record.

Regards,
Boiler Plate

125 posted on 08/17/2003 12:13:15 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: I got the rope
Rope,

I haven't posted in the Crevo threads for a while but I guess it is safe to say that things are pretty much in the same place as the last time I posted. I recently read an article about DNA computers and and storage devices. Along with what I read about using electron spin of atoms for ones and zeros it looks like Crichtdon's theory of a merging of several cutting edge fields of science is about to begin. I think we are going to see some really cool stuff come down the pike in the next decade.

Regards
Boiler Plate

126 posted on 08/17/2003 2:08:30 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: PatrickHenry
Asimov, Sagan, Gould, Dawkins, You've heard of these Darwinite High Priests? William Provine, Darwinite Establshed Religion scholar was quoted as statng:
"We cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
Can it really be you don't know this?
127 posted on 08/17/2003 6:08:56 PM PDT by metacognative
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To: Stultis
Thank you so much for the heads up to your post! It looks great to me - a polite invitation to take a look. Hugs!!!
128 posted on 08/17/2003 7:07:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Stultis
I continue to suspect that, even if at some psychological level I couldn't begin to characterize, creationists and ID'ers don't really "believe" in their own ideas, or at the very least don't believe their claims about their present, or even ultimate, viability.

I get the same impression. It's like a guilty conscience, IMO.

Also, to be associated with people who blatantly use dishonest tactics (misleading quote-mining, implying a textbook teaches Haeckel's 'law' when in fact it merely puts it in its historical context, etc, etc), must be very demoralizing to honest creationists.

129 posted on 08/17/2003 7:56:48 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: js1138
Ping! :-)
130 posted on 08/17/2003 8:06:07 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Stultis
I think http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/965260/posts?page=78#78 is probably the cleanest and best statement of an important observation I've seen on these threads. It really cuts to the heart of why a "scientific" movement would argue its case in the political arena rather than in the journals.

I've lived through a number of scientific revolutions -- "continental drift", asteroid impacts, feathered dinosaurs, and of course, global warming. In every case there is both a political and scientific aspect. In some cases the outcome is uncertain. But in every case, the early promoters of an idea faced heavy opposition, and in every case, the outcome will be decided in scientific journals rather than in political debate.

132 posted on 08/17/2003 9:04:49 PM PDT by js1138
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To: f.Christian
evolution has become a form of tribalism --- canibalism --- mindRaping --- slavery --- REPRESSION - TYRANNY !

You've GOT to stop calling everyone who believes in Evolution a slaver, rapist, and cannibal. As well as an atheist. It's absolutely ridiculous and uncalled for. Evolution and belief in God are NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE!!!!

We've discussed this before - I don't see why you keep saying these things.

133 posted on 08/18/2003 10:21:42 AM PDT by Shryke
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To: RadioAstronomer
ROTFLMAO! That sure worked well. I saw his reply!

His reply was sort of what I expected from an agent provocateur. He is not really arguing against evolution, but actively trying to discredit by association those who do.

I'll just go back to ignoring his Yoda-speak gibberish now.

134 posted on 08/18/2003 12:38:02 PM PDT by e_engineer
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To: Sacajaweau
I believe Einstein emphatically endorsed ID.

I had always construed his "dice" comment to be more metaphorical...

135 posted on 08/18/2003 12:44:02 PM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
To be a "theory", it must be falsifiable, by experiment. ID is not. It is a belief, not a theory.
136 posted on 08/18/2003 12:45:46 PM PDT by jimt
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To: Right Wing Professor
Bear in mind a brute is anyone who bests a creationist in a discussion, and a 'mind-numberd robot' is anyone who thinks for himself.

Well-done, RWP.

137 posted on 08/18/2003 7:56:06 PM PDT by stanz (Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
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To: f.Christian
To human eyes, too much of light
Is blinding as the blackest night.
And this is so, too, of the mind,
In total ignorance it's blind.
But more truth than it can absorb
Will overwhelm the mental orb.
So, lest our vision burn to ashes
God shows us truth in bits and flashes,
White revelations that the brain
Can comprehend and yet stay sane.
And we, poor fools, demand truth's noon
Who scarce can bear its crescent moon.
  -- "White Revelations," by Georgia Starbuck Galbraith.

138 posted on 08/28/2003 12:17:14 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch (Education starts in the home. Education stops in the public schools)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch
John.3

[19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
[20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
[21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
139 posted on 08/28/2003 12:22:05 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Shryke
The constitutional wall the founders did build was ...

to protect state and individual rights from a national govt - religion ---

that WALL has been breeched - demolished by liberals - EVOLUTIONIST !

"The real object of the [First] [A]mendment was not to countenance, much less to advance, Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any ... national ecclesiastical establishment --- which should give to a hierarchy the exclusive patronage * * of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution (the vice and pest of former ages), and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age. . . ." (Footnotes omitted.)

Check out the link above !

Old wall constitutionalist ... keep govt out ---

new wall constitutionalist (( sharia )) --- keep God - truth - science out !

... * * ... guess who --- rag heads - liberals !

140 posted on 08/28/2003 12:25:44 AM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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