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Sorry for the vanity - I was hoping Saturday morning would be OK to do this. To the point: I clicked on 'Colorado' and 'Texas' state lists for this where I assume it will go, because I hope you can help. I'm moving out of California to either Texas or Colorado. Any suggestions you have would be helpful! Admin, if this is inappropriate, sorry - move or delete this thread. I intend to ride out the recall, (I was a dedicated signature collector and fundraiser because I grew up here and really wanted to make a change!) but now I think I've had it. Watched the state go down the drain and really want a change. Thanks..
1 posted on 08/16/2003 8:58:52 AM PDT by ysoitanly
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I would also consider Arkansas and Northern New Mexico. Check over the Real Estate ads in Arkansas. They offer some fantastic values in property and homes. You don't indicate if you are retired or if you are relocating a business.
2 posted on 08/16/2003 9:05:22 AM PDT by dvan
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Well, go to Colorado if you like cold weather and snow. Go to Texas if you like warm weather and no snow.

I live in Texas. It gets really hot in the summer. I know it gets hot in California, too, so if you don't mind the heat, Texas is good. However, if you want to get away from blazing summer temps, I suggest Colorado. From what my dad tells me, the scenery is beautiful up there.

That's my suggestion! ^-^
3 posted on 08/16/2003 9:09:29 AM PDT by 4mycountry (One voice, connecting with others like a water droplet on a lake. It cannot be missed.)
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Take me with you.

Will FReep for food. <|:)~
4 posted on 08/16/2003 9:09:38 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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Moved to Texas form Minnesota back in 2000. I love the heat down here, but the wife can't stand it. If you are moving anywhere close to Austin, try to find property outside of Travis County, but within driving distance. Travis has insane tax rates that have quite a few people mumbling about "damn revenuer's" if you catch my drift. If you are a 9-5'er, plan on at least an hour in yucky traffic. Same for Dallas and Ft Worth from what I've heard. Houston? Forget it. Unless you like ugly cities. Lubbock is ok, but there ain't much there. San Antonio has its good side and its bad side. Mostly a lack of tech industry jobs, although that could be a personal bias. ;-)

No state income taxes. But living in where the jobs are can suck. The food is awesome. Tex-Mex. Italian. Greek. Oriental cuisine. We seem to have it all.

As you may have noticed, we're having a problem with our legislature right now. A few of our Dimocrap Senators decided to take an unauthorized vacation, but we oughta have that cleared up before ya' get here.

6 posted on 08/16/2003 9:11:22 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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STAY AND FIGHT!
7 posted on 08/16/2003 9:11:46 AM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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Texans move to Colorado in large numbers. Think about it.
9 posted on 08/16/2003 9:12:53 AM PDT by templar
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My family and I moved to Colorado Springs 3 years ago, and we love it. I was born and raised in California, went to college in Kansas (KSU), and served a career in the Army, living in Germany, all regions of the US, and ended up in New Jersey.

Bottom line: this is the greatest! Mild winters, not real cold. Mild summers, and LOW HUMIDITY! Beautiful mountains, access to year-round outdoor recreation: Hiking and skiing, etc. The city is about 1/2 million, lots of high tech. The north end, where we live, is growing...and great schools.

NB: the Chamber of Commerce disavows any connection with me.

12 posted on 08/16/2003 9:14:57 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Texas. Gun-friendly laws, 'must issue' CHL. Friendly people. Terrible climate, usually too hot or too cold and very humid in the eastern parts. Property tax, sales tax 8.25%. No income tax. Good hunting (deer leases are the rule) good fishing. Poisonous snakes and bellicose insects.

I like it. :)

17 posted on 08/16/2003 9:18:51 AM PDT by LibKill (If you don't vote, don't complain!)
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Native Texan here who lived for 9 years in the suburbs of Sodom on the Potomac and in Wyoming for two years. Couldn't wait to get back to Texas. What size city would you be most comfortable with? Are you looking for big city life, medium size town, or small town? Do you want recreational amenities? Is scenery important to you (trees, water, etc.) or would you be happy in the prairie or desert areas? Is the quality of schools important to you? Even though we have no state income tax, the sales tax is high (8.25% in most areas). School taxes are high in areas with quality education. Outside of the major cities housing is inexpensive. Let us know what's important to you and maybe Texans on the board can suggest some specific areas.
18 posted on 08/16/2003 9:20:09 AM PDT by McLynnan
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Live free or die.

New Hampshire!
20 posted on 08/16/2003 9:20:50 AM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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Just curious...what has changed so much in California to make you want to pick up and move.
22 posted on 08/16/2003 9:21:35 AM PDT by clockwork
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What are the main things you and your dad consider important (in a state)? For example - low taxes, scenic areas, beaches, jobs, weather, cities...?
23 posted on 08/16/2003 9:21:52 AM PDT by searchandrecovery (America will not exist in 25 years.)
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I'd would say North Dakota. The weather su*ks,the economy su*ks,it is boring as hell,but the people are OK.Hey, but it's cheap if you don't mind going insane. Byebye
25 posted on 08/16/2003 9:22:27 AM PDT by novacation
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You might want to consider Tyler, Texas. It has excellent medical facilities which might appeal to your father as he grows older. It's the rose capital of Texas, and the scenery is gorgeous.

It's not that far from Dallas if you want some big city excitement, but it's small enough that traffic isn't a problem.

26 posted on 08/16/2003 9:22:54 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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Texas doesn't have an income tax (neither does Tennessee - what's wrong with Tennessee? We have heat and snow).

Colorado is nice (great Governor - you could go from THE worst to one of the best) but parts of it are little too dirt-worshippy for my tastes.

You really should throw middle Tennessee in the mix of places you are considering. Great economy, less traffic, distinct change of seasons, major league sports, close to a lot of great places to visit, great hunting and fishing, reasonable level of arts and all kinds of music and Democrats are more conservative than most of California's Republicans. Now if we could just be like Texas and find a way to make them leave the state (without letting them back in).

28 posted on 08/16/2003 9:23:51 AM PDT by hometoroost
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The job market in Texas is very bad, right now and real estate is depressed. If your skills involve computers, Texas is not the place to go.
29 posted on 08/16/2003 9:24:08 AM PDT by Eva
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The "Free State" state hasn't been selected yet has it? If the selection is due soon, you could wait for it and think about moving there. A Free State is a provocative idea.
31 posted on 08/16/2003 9:24:18 AM PDT by Ships of Wood, Men of Iron
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Why leave? I just got one of these cheesy "constituent letters" the other day from the odious Sam Farr of Monterey. Seems he wants to put 6000 homes on the grounds of the old Ft. Ord for "affordable housing". And of course, preference will go to people who live and work in Monterey County (or, I suppose, Santa Cruz County). And guess who that would be? Right. Illegals who work in Salinas and Watsonville.

So Mr. Farr and his buddies will soon be giving free houses to the citizens of Mexico, on the grounds of what was one of the largest and most important Army bases in America.

All you gotta do is change your last name to something like Rodriguez or Martinez, and I'm sure they'll give you a nice new home near the beautiful Monterey beach. But not if your name is Smith or Jones. Maybe you could get a Matricula Consular with the appropriate surname, I'm sure they would take that.

35 posted on 08/16/2003 9:25:27 AM PDT by Regulator
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What part of California are you from, and where do you live now?

The question is relevant because the answer will determine where you will be most comfortable culturally as well as economically and politically. If you're from the Central Valley, you'll probably be most comfortable in Texas, if you're from Northern California or the Sierras, you'd probably prefer Colorado. Southern California is a toss-up.

37 posted on 08/16/2003 9:28:41 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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You might consider staying. If young enough soldiers will be needed.
42 posted on 08/16/2003 9:33:37 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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