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Jerry Duncan wished he had a "dirty bomb" to kill every liberal in Fresno
Fresno Bee ^
| August 15, 2003
| Pablo Lopez and Matt Leedy
Posted on 08/16/2003 7:12:40 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
Edited on 04/12/2004 2:10:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Duncan's e-mail note ignites fury - Fresno council member wrote of using 'dirty bomb' to kill liberals.
Fresno residents and community leaders, outraged by an e-mail message in which City Council Member - Jerry Duncan wished he had a "dirty bomb" to kill every liberal in Fresno, called Thursday for his resignation, recall or reprimand.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: citycouncil; duncan; emails; fresno
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To: Jim Robinson; diotima; Bob J; Chancellor Palpatine
You're insane. I don't mean that in a funny or good way, either. Your defense of the stupid remarks of this idiot, as well as Samuelian's repeated solicitation have demonstrated that aptly.The above statement was written about me by FReeper "Chancellor Palpatine" RIGHT OUT OF THE BLUE. See what I mean?
To: Saundra Duffy
"Jerry Duncan protested with us at the corner of Blackstone & Shaw in Fresno. He's a Patriot. "
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I don't argue that point, but as a politician he should know better than make such statements in an e-mail. It's like putting up a sign "liberals, please attack me".
I don't think he should resign, he should apologize and in the future review anything he writes from the perspective : "can liberals attack me for this".
To: Enterprise; Saundra Duffy
To: FairOpinion
It wasn't a threat. It was free speech in a free society. Please note that the more liberal members on the City Council may have been given advance warning so they could delete their emails, making them look like saints (which trust me, they are not).
This SMACKS OF A SET UP!!
To: Saundra Duffy
I am laughing. You guys are killing me. Maybe it's because Jim Robinson HIMSELF lives in Fresno.Yes, he does--and Jim Robinson is a whole lot smarter than these guys. He wouldn't put anything in an email in a government-run computer system he doesn't want the world (via the Fresno Bee) to see.
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:27:41 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: BeerSwillr
It reads to me like The Bee was tipped off from someone who had seen the email.Me, too. And I believe the liberal members were warned in advance so they could delete or filter their own emails.
To: BeerSwillr
Spelling is a b-tch, ain't it?
To: Saundra Duffy
Me, too. And I believe the liberal members were warned in advance so they could delete or filter their own emails.I doubt if their e-mails were deleted from the system.
E-mails are forever.
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:29:14 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: Catspaw
Jim Robinson is a whole lot smarter than these guysNever a truer statement was posted.
To: Saundra Duffy
This SMACKS OF A SET UP!!I guess some liberal typed it, then gave him a subliminal suggestion that made him admit it.
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:30:31 AM PDT
by
Chancellor Palpatine
("what if the hokey pokey is really what its all about?" - Jean Paul Sartre)
To: Saundra Duffy
FWIW, here's my take:
1. Duncan has the right to say what he wants.
2. Duncan doesn't have the right to say what he wants without criticism.
3. If a public official says or writes that he wants to kill his opponents, that's not smart.
4. We'll never hear the end of this. For the next twenty years, this will make the rounds as "typical" of the sorts of things conservatives say. It will be like when Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton the White House dog. He apologized for it, never repeated it, and it was ten years ago. But every Democratic activist seems to remember it as all as they need to know about Rush Limbaugh.
But you might say "in the big picture, isn't Duncan a pretty minor figure to get that kind of notoriety?" It doesn't matter. When I lived in Pennsylvania, we had a State representative named Stephen Friend. Friend was very pro-life.
He once said something to the effect that it was very difficult for a woman who was raped to get pregnant because of the hormones a woman secrets during rape. The liberals couldn't just say "One state rep who doesn't know biology. Big deal." Even years after the fact, they were villifying Friend.
To: FairOpinion
I believe he has apologized. I will say this about that: FairOpinion seems like a fair minded FReeper to me. Thanks for your post.
To: Saundra Duffy
Absolutely--we have to wake up or we're all in trouble, and it's going to be our fault because we hip-hip-hoorayed too much!
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:33:38 AM PDT
by
Bella
To: Chancellor Palpatine
"Set-up" in this way: Someone alerts "The Bee" about City Council Members' emails; then the liberal Bee gets their dirty minds in gear; meanwhile the moles had warned the liberal members of the City Council to delete their questionable emails. Voila! Jerry Duncan is the victim of a "Bee" sting. Not the first time a conservative Republican got stung, either.
To: bassmaner
And Alec Baldwin can go on national television, call for the execution by stoning of Rep. Henry Hyde, his family, and the other House impeachment managers ... but he was only joking ... I recall some freepers taking offence at Baldwin's statements. Were they wrong?
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:37:36 AM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: Our man in washington
Thanks for your "take" on this. I can't say I disagree with you. However, imagine this. If the Republicans would rally 'round Duncan at this moment in time, perhaps they could stave off future reprecussions. (I wish FreeRepublic had spell check, don't you?)
To: FairOpinion
I agree 100%. There are ways of expressing dissent without making a "threat". If you make a joke about a bomb or terrorists while passing through airport security, they don't take it as a joke. If you make a joke about killing the president, the Secret Service does not take it as a joke. Even it if was a joke, that doesn't mean that people won't take it seriously. I'm glad that he is a patriot, but I still think that this was a stupid thing to say and even stupider to put in a documentable format (email).
Gum
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posted on
08/16/2003 8:37:51 AM PDT
by
ChewedGum
( http://king-of-fools.blogspot.com)
To: Bella
we hip-hip-hoorayed too much!Guilty as charged.
To: Doe Eyes
I recall some freepers taking offence at Baldwin's statements. Were they wrong?Hmmmmmmm. It is a two way street. Hmmmmmmm.
To: BeerSwillr
LOL! I just assume it is a typo. I misspelled Calhoun as "Calhous" earlier.
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