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[Field] Poll Finds Governor's Support Still Eroding [Bustamante-25%.. Schwarzenegger-22%]
New York Times ^
| 8-15-2003
| DEAN E. MURPHY
Posted on 08/15/2003 7:44:45 PM PDT by deport
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To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
If McClintock and Simon were real conservatives, they would do whatever it took - including withdrawing from the race - to insure a democrat was not elected. Somehow, I don't think they're really conservatives. I think they are conservatives. Just very, very, very selfish ones.
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posted on
08/15/2003 11:48:35 PM PDT
by
Texas_Dawg
(Willie Green don't love them hos.)
To: grania
Do you think Ahhhhnald is a "real conservative"? Or is he just a liberal Democrat playing Republican to get elected? That makes no sense. While I agree with you that AS is not very conservative (i.e. a Rockeferfeller/liberal republican, if anything), you're saying you think he's actually playing Republican to get elected? If that's the strategy, wouldn't it make more sense to play the liberal Democrat he supposedly is and make it more easier on himself to get elected in a liberal democrat state?
To: McGavin999
"Your Governess is a demon sent straight from hell."
"You're absolutely right. The only reason she got in was because the Arizona republicans insisted on doing exactly what the California republicans are doing right now."
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Then you know how I feel.
To: deport
Since Arnold announced last week, what overtures has he given to California conservatives? Nada.
He's hired Buffet, a Democrat socialist as a campaign advisor and now the pervert Rob Lowe, a Clinton fundamentalist. Is it no wonder Republicans are being attracted to McClintock and Simon? When Arnold gives something to conservatives regarding the issues, please let me know.
To: LdSentinal
Correction: Buffet is Arnold's economic advisor, who wants to dismantle Prop. 13.
To: FairOpinion
Then you know how I feel.I keep trying to warn them, but they won't listen.
To: ambrose
"Arnold Schwarzenegger has supported Prop. 13 for 25 years," said campaign spokesman Rob Stutzman, adding that the actor was the keynote speaker earlier this summer at an event honoring the silver anniversary of the passage of the property tax initiative credited with launching a national anti-tax revolution.
"Arnold is an admirer of Howard Jarvis (the late co-author of Prop. 13) and has referred to him as the original tax terminator," Stutzman said. "He will be a fierce protector of Proposition 13."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2003/08/16/RECALL.TMP
To: FairOpinion
Why didn't he say this himself? And why did they wait days to refute Buffett? Sorry, but the Buffett remarks stuck me as a trial balloon.
John & Ken were totally ripping into Ahnold today. Arnold should have picked up the phone and called them right away.
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posted on
08/16/2003 12:11:14 AM PDT
by
ambrose
(The election will go forward, even if Davis resigns)
To: Consort
I agree, if 1 and 2 are reversed. October is long way off.
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posted on
08/16/2003 12:14:16 AM PDT
by
Penner
To: Carry_Okie
Of course, but once that they saw that the conservative grassroots was going to be successful in making the recall happen, they decided to highjack it, with their Riordan clone. They have been telling us to sit down and shut up while they "save the day" ever since.Thank you! for saying the truth......I soooo sick to the national party pulling this crap on us
The kicker is were see the same crap here almost all from non Californians
If you don't live here ....butt out!...let me repeat that....butt out!...
Grassroots Californians making the recall happen..this is a special election they created....
So can we please have just one election without the National party F---ing it up ..... there always pulling the same crap over & over...
This bullshit really started with prop 187 ...the National Republican party was dead seat against it (no matter that Wilson and the prop 187 broke with the national party and won big)
Ever since the national party been trying to run the show to save us.....
(I swear there some EAST COAST Republican party think tank that has come up some time back with some model of what they think they need to win in California base to some bicoastal Hollywood stereotypes and a visit or two the LA and the bay area)
They wouldnt know the Center Valley from the Inland Empire if you showed them on a map ....
Hell all they know of California is within 15 miles of the beach......
To: Carry_Okie
"Of course, but once that they saw that the conservative grassroots was going to be successful in making the recall happen, they decided to highjack it, with their Riordan clone"
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That's funny, coming from a McClintock supporter. Issa was the one who put in millions of his own personal money, without which the recall would have gone exactly nowhere. McClintock and Simon didn't put in a dime. They are the ones who are trying to ride in on Issa's money. Issa had the wisdom and decency to withdraw, to help the Republican party. McClintock and Simon,on the other hand insist on staying in the race and being spoilers.
To: tophat9000
Typo (one of many) Center Valley. should be Central Valley....
To: FairOpinion
Issa had the wisdom and decency to withdraw, to help the Republican party. I think Issa got his arm twisted HARD from some folks back in DC
To: All
Here is why Arnie will sink, if he sticks with his RAT advisors..
Buffet to Arnie................Raise Property Taxes in CA...
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posted on
08/16/2003 1:27:30 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
To: LdSentinal
Here is why Arnie will sink, if he sticks with his RAT advisors..
Buffet to Arnie................Raise Property Taxes in CA...
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posted on
08/16/2003 1:51:35 AM PDT
by
KQQL
(^@__*^)
To: Once-Ler
It never crossed my mind that some Paleo-Cons might vote in the 'rat primary to stop Dean. I suppose if you see little difference between the 'rats and the Republicans this stratagy makes some kind of twisted sense. Defeat the most liberal of the viable candidates and pray that Jesus comes back soon because all the candidates for Prez are evil.And, I understand the neocon strategy but disagree. The risk of Dean winning might be slight, but is it worth it? Anything can happen on election day; it's like a one-game World Series would be. Who thought he'd get this far? Remember, Clinton was a "throw-a-way" who wasn't expected to win.
What's fascinating is that everyone who follows things seems to agree on one fact...we really, really don't want Dean to be President.
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posted on
08/16/2003 4:36:03 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: gop_gene
While I agree with you that AS is not very conservative (i.e. a Rockeferfeller/liberal republican, if anything), you're saying you think he's actually playing Republican to get elected? If that's the strategy, wouldn't it make more sense to play the liberal Democrat he supposedly is and make it more easier on himself to get elected in a liberal democrat state?I'll buy that. He's more likely a "Republican" as far as business-profit things are concerned and a "Democrat" for his social policies. His liberal social views don't represent a huge percentage of the Republican Party, not at all.
It is an issue for those of us who don't live in California, too. If the Party wins without considering what the social Conservatives believe in, it leaves us disenfranchised, with nowhere to go.
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posted on
08/16/2003 4:43:24 AM PDT
by
grania
("Won't get fooled again")
To: deport
Fill me in here, Californians. Is it really true that prop 13 rolled back and then froze valuations in place, so that a millionaire who has lived in one mansion since that time pays less than a family starting out with a new starter home?
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posted on
08/16/2003 4:48:13 AM PDT
by
ImpeachandRemove
(impeach and remove, or, alternately, recall grey davis:))
To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
Let each candidate take his best shot until mid September or so. Then let each trailing candidate drop out and campaign with the front runner, whoever that is.
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posted on
08/16/2003 4:53:38 AM PDT
by
ImpeachandRemove
(impeach and remove, or, alternately, recall grey davis:))
To: rwfromkansas; sruleoflaw
Here we go again. The "shoot ourselves in the foot" wing of the GOP is splitting the vote, whereas the Dems are compromising and uniting behind a candidate in order to win a plurality of votes.
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