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Artifacts Hailed As Major Find - Weapons Used More Than 10,000 Years Ago (Quebec)
The Gazette ^ | 8-14-2003 | Irwin Block

Posted on 08/15/2003 5:38:57 PM PDT by blam

Artifacts hailed as major find - Weapons used more than 10,000 years ago

IRWIN BLOCK
The Gazette

Thursday, August 14, 2003

The discovery in the Lac Mégantic region of three fragments of spearheads, believed to be more than 10,000 years old, is being hailed as a major find.

The artifacts, which will be displayed at a press conference today, are said to be the first evidence of human habitation in Quebec after glaciers receded and the ice age ended some 12,000 years ago.

They are from fluted spearheads typical of weapons used in the early Paleo-Indian period, which existed from 10,000 to 12,000 years ago.

The fragments are of the Clovis style, which was characteristic of weapons and tools of that era in several parts of North America.

They were unearthed by an archeological team led by anthropology professor Claude Chapdelaine, of the Université de Montréal, on a wooded lot near Lac des Araignées, southeast of Lac Mégantic, 250 kilometres east of Montreal.

He identified the site eight years ago as a promising area because it had been an old exit for melting water during deglaciation toward the Atlantic seaboard, making it ideal for caribou herds after the stabilization of the water levels. The herds usually attracted human hunters.

This is the first such discovery in Quebec, although similar findings have occurred in Maine, New Hampshire, Nova Scotia and Ontario.

"I am relieved and pleased for Quebec archeology," Chapdelaine said by phone from Mégantic. "God gave me three pieces this year - I'm hoping to find more in the coming years."

Chapdelaine expects the find will encourage other Quebec archeologists to explore more promising sites in the province.

Photographer Robert Galbraith, an amateur archeologist who has been searching for Paleo-Indian sites during 20 years of collecting artifacts, was thrilled at the find.

"This is great news, awesome - the Holy Grail of archeology, to find the earliest occupation of the land," Galbraith said.

"At that time, this was a tundra-arctic environment, and you'd have the caribou and the arctic wolf, boreal and tundra-type species that native people would hunt with spears," Galbraith said.

"This is a pre-bow-and-arrow era - a time when people used spears and rocks. Thrilling."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 10000; artifacts; find; godsgravesglyphs; major; old; weapons; years
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They ought to be referring to these people as Paleo-Americans, not Paleo-Indians.

They don't know who they were.

Some archaeologists have linked the Clovis points with similar points in the Iberian area in Europe of the same time period.

1 posted on 08/15/2003 5:38:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
They don't know who they were.

Methinks someone wants reparations to include the possibility the right to sue the Creator because the The Big Bang deformed at it's existence.

2 posted on 08/15/2003 5:46:39 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: blam
They don't know who they were.

True, and you are right, they should be called something other than paleo-indian. Columbus was looking for the direct route to China, and called the people he found here Indians, perhaps thinking he might be in India. Total accident of history.

3 posted on 08/15/2003 5:50:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: blam
"They don't know who they were."

Sounds to me more like, We don't know who we are.

4 posted on 08/15/2003 5:50:40 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: blam
Weapons used more than 10,000 years ago

Pure balderdash! Everyone knows that there was never one weapon in existence, until the invention of guns. Everyone died of old age until guns came along. /sarcasm

5 posted on 08/15/2003 5:50:52 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Bringing you quality, non-unnecessarily-excerpted threads since 2002)
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To: blam
ping
6 posted on 08/15/2003 5:56:53 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: blam
Some archaeologists have linked the Clovis points with similar points in the Iberian area in Europe of the same time period.

What could that mean? Europeans peopled the Americas at that early date? How?

7 posted on 08/15/2003 6:00:40 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: liberallarry
Read through this post and the article linked to it.

European DNA Found In 7-8,000 Year Old Skeletons In Florida (Windover)

8 posted on 08/15/2003 6:08:16 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam; *Gods, Graves, Glyphs; carenot; CatoRenasci; ellery; Eva; freedom9; FreeLibertarian; ...
Gods, Graves, Glyphs
List for articles regarding early civilizations , life of all forms, - dinosaurs - etc.

Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from this ping list.

9 posted on 08/15/2003 6:08:24 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Amelia
"This is a pre-bow-and-arrow era - a time when people used spears and rocks. Thrilling."

Fascinating!

10 posted on 08/15/2003 6:10:35 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (All roads lead to reality. That's why I smile.)
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To: blam
Bump for later reading.
11 posted on 08/15/2003 7:24:19 PM PDT by bd476 (The only thing to fear is fear itself, so be brave and vote ... Vote ...)
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To: farmfriend
Please add me... thank you in advance.
12 posted on 08/15/2003 7:51:30 PM PDT by mvonfr
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To: blam
"evidence of human habitation in Quebec after glaciers receded and the ice age ended some 12,000 years ago."

Damned SUV drivers!

13 posted on 08/15/2003 8:03:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Leave Pat, Leave!")
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To: mvonfr
Your welcome and consider yourself added.
14 posted on 08/15/2003 8:04:07 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: blam
bump for later
15 posted on 08/15/2003 8:05:06 PM PDT by The Mayor (God uses ordinary people to carry out his extraordinary plan. I am willing Lord, use me!)
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To: liberallarry
Same way as all the others (I know, real helpful, eh?). :)

They probably came here by ship.

There are rumors of Egyptian artifacts in the Grand Canyon, specifically in some caves located in a mountain called Isis Temple. There are rumors that Roman weapons, armor, and other goods have been found around Tucson, though I have only read this somewhere and haven't yet found the article itself.

I think we tend to short-change ancient peoples. I believe they were a lot more advanced than we give them credit for.

Yhwhsman

16 posted on 08/15/2003 10:33:56 PM PDT by yhwhsman ("Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small..." -Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: yhwhsman; liberallarry; blam
Barry Fell wrote America B.C., a good place to start.

The orthodoxy that the new world was peopled in ancient times solely via the Bering Land Bridge is under serious reconsideration, as new archeological, linguist, and DNA evidence is being examined.

Evidence now suggests that prehistoric man followed the coastal waters from both the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans when their levels were much more shallow and the continental shelf more exposed.

Evidence for exploration from other peoples in historic times includes the Polynesians, Chinese, Japanese, Cathaginians, Phonecians, Norse, Irish, Welsh, Africans and many others.

Watch out. This interest can become as addicting as Free Republic.

17 posted on 08/15/2003 11:48:39 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
Evidence now suggests that prehistoric man followed the coastal waters from both the Atlantic and the Pacific Oceans when their levels were much more shallow and the continental shelf more exposed.

That would have been during the Ice Age? Scientists must have some coastal maps of the period. Know where I can find trem (Perhaps in the book you recommended)?

Evidence for exploration from other peoples in historic times includes the Polynesians, Chinese, Japanese, Cathaginians, Phonecians, Norse, Irish, Welsh, Africans and many others.

Last time I looked all such "evidence" was little more than rumor and far-fetched correlation. Has that changed?

18 posted on 08/16/2003 3:18:37 AM PDT by liberallarry
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Scientists must have some coastal maps of the period. Know where I can find them (Perhaps in the book you recommended)?

Any suggestions, blam ?

Last time I looked all such "evidence" was little more than rumor and far-fetched correlation. Has that changed?

I think evidence is always subject to interpretation. Some of this I've read in http://www.ancientamerican.com/, as well as articles posted on FR.

19 posted on 08/16/2003 5:11:47 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: happygrl
"Any suggestions, blam ?"

Linked below is the latest example.

Open Boat Crew Defy Atlantic Storms In 16-day epic

3,000 miles across the Atlantic in an inflatable raft.

20 posted on 08/16/2003 9:15:53 AM PDT by blam
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