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1 posted on 08/15/2003 11:01:02 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
LOL!

Great street weapon huh?

What a bunch of crap.

2 posted on 08/15/2003 11:07:23 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Nothing in my home is French!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Police say the weapon is more powerful, more accurate and gives an officer a greater chance for survival on the streets.

Well then they would be perfect for civilians ... who also want to avoid stray shots and who wish to survive on the streets. Indianapolis police officers have seized more than 200 illegal, but similarly-sized weapons from the street, Rinehart reported.

What is an "illegal weapon" when the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed?

"What did we learn at Columbine? The police show up, they do a perimeter, and they wait for SWAT to come up.

We learned that SWAT teams are cowards when people are shooting ... the CO SWAT teams had machine guns, they just didn't want to enter.

The rifles should be on the street by the end of the year.

But, I thought you wanted to get guns off the street. Be sure to tell the VPC of your plans to put these assault rifles on the streets.

3 posted on 08/15/2003 11:09:32 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: InvisibleChurch
That department should buy 20 of them--that way word gets out on the street that they have them.

Assuming they got 20, the ENTIRE department could practice with them, and 4 or 5 dedicated snipers could have their OWN weapon, sighted in the way they want.

If more than 2 or 3 of these EVER get fired in an actual police operation, I'll eat my shorts.

Indianapolis PD has no need whatsoever for 200 of these weapons.
4 posted on 08/15/2003 11:11:00 AM PDT by jra
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To: InvisibleChurch
After the Bank Robber shootout in LA a few years ago when cops faced robbers in body armour, all police cars should have a decent rifle in the trunk.

SO9

5 posted on 08/15/2003 11:11:26 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (Real Texicans; we're grizzled, we're grumpy and we're armed)
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To: InvisibleChurch; *bang_list
"It would give the patrol officer an opportunity to respond with a level of force equal to any civilian counterpart,"

This is just simply not true...

11 posted on 08/15/2003 11:27:56 AM PDT by phasma proeliator (it's better to die with honor than to live without it.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I don't know how Indy is going to do it, but I believe that LA converted their military surplus A1s to semi-auto only. Smart move. The M16/AR15 is light, easy to use, ergonomic and the risk of overpenetration with standard 55gr FMJ is LESS than that of a full 147gr 9mm subgun load. I have no problem with police carrying a semi-auto rifle in the trunk.

Semi-auto is excellent for aimed fire under duress. However, automatic fire is useful only for "suppression" and not applicable for LE uses.
15 posted on 08/15/2003 11:34:07 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Not every officer will get a rifle. Barker said the department will go through a careful selection process looking for officers who combine good judgment with proficiency with a firearm, Rinehart reported.

I thought all LEO had to exhibit those traits...

Rinehart just opened the door for law suits against the department where officers that don't "combine good judgment proficiency with a firearm" i.e. those not issued and M16A1 are involved in a shooting with their sidearm...

17 posted on 08/15/2003 11:48:16 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Joe Brower; *bang_list
Kind of makes you go WTF !!!
19 posted on 08/15/2003 11:52:59 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: InvisibleChurch
I really don't mind they're getting these.

I just wish they would be subject to the same consequences as the public when it comes time for a review of a shooting.
22 posted on 08/15/2003 12:24:01 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Hmmm ... and one dedicated RKBA 'criminal' with a Garand or M1-A 308 scout rifle will still make mincemeat of them.

Never forget that citizens with arms outnumber the military and cops almost 100 to one.

25 posted on 08/15/2003 1:28:05 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Since when did M-16s become "high power." Jeez, what morons the jouralists be.

If they really want to shoot through body armor, I recommend an M1 Garand. Level IIa ain't gonna stop a 30-06...
31 posted on 08/15/2003 2:27:01 PM PDT by Little Ray (When in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
"Assault weapons" are unsuitable for the peasants to own because...
"...the fact is that assault weapons are designed to kill as many people as possible in rapid-fire succession."
~ From Dianne Feinstein's website

BUT...
"Assault weapons may be legally produced for use by law enforcement agencies..."
~ From The Brady Campaign website.

Soooo...

...why in the world do police need weapons that are "designed to kill as many people as possible in rapid-fire succession"?????



It's Not Just A Gun...

It's My "HOMELAND DEFENSE RIFLE"!!

50 posted on 08/15/2003 4:19:56 PM PDT by The_Macallan
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To: InvisibleChurch
It makes one wonder what they have in mind for the citizens.
57 posted on 08/15/2003 6:33:43 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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