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U.S. skeptical lightning caused outage
Democrat and Chronicle ^ | (August 14, 2003) | The Associated Press and staff reports

Posted on 08/15/2003 2:03:18 AM PDT by swilhelm73

Hours after the blackout hit, officials were still puzzled late Thursday about what caused the system to fail, with investigators concentrating on areas in neighboring Canada and upstate New York.

American officials were skeptical about a Canadian claim that lightning triggered the cascade of events when it hit a power plant on the U.S. side of Niagara Falls. Some industry officials and meteorologists also discounted lightning.

“ It’s completely false,” said WOKR-TV (Channel 13) meteorologist Glenn Johnson. Johnson said his computers and those at the National Weather Service determined the closest lightning strike in the last 24 hours was in Illinois or Maryland.

The White House said there was no indication that terrorism was involved. President Bush said Thursday night, “ We’ll find out why (it happened) and we’ll deal with the problem.”

Whatever happened, the power disruption, which caused havoc from New England to Michigan, is certain to revive the debate over the reliability of an aging electricity transmission system.

“ More lines clearly need to be built,” said Jim Owen, a spokesman for the Edison Electric Institute, which represents the investor-owned electric utilities.

Former Energy Secretary Bill Richardson said the nation’s power grid is antiquated.

“ We’re the world’s greatest superpower, but we have a Third World electricity grid,” said Richardson, governor of New Mexico.

An energy bill before Congress would allow federal regulators to step in and direct transmission siting if states or regions were unable to do so. But that provision has been opposed by many lawmakers.

Power was returning slowly in the affected areas, but industry officials said that more than 20 power plants — including nine nuclear reactors — were forced to shut down and that it could take from a few hours, in the case of gas-fired plants, to more than 12 hours, in case of the nuclear plants, to get them back into operation. If power is restored too quickly after an outage, it could cause a surge in demand and trigger another system failure, energy experts said.

While high temperatures and humidity across the Northeast caused electricity use to surge Thursday, the increased demand was not putting extreme strain on the system, some officials said.

Matthew Melewski, a spokesman for the New York Independent System Operator, the organization that manages the state’s electricity grid, said demand across the state was about 29,000 megawatts, several thousand megawatts below the system’s capacity, when the blackout hit at 4:11 p.m.

The Canadian claim, by a spokesman for Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chretien, was that the blackout probably began with a lightning strike on part of a power plant in the Niagara region of upstate New York.

But New York Gov. George Pataki called the claim untrue and said the Niagara Falls power plant has worked perfectly. “ That’s how we kept power on in western New York,” he said on CNN’s Larry King Live.

Brian Warner of the New York Power Authority also said the plant never stopped working. “ We also have not experienced a lightning strike at that facility,” he said.

Michehl Gent, president of the industry-sponsored North American Electric Reliability Council, said it was “ virtually impossible” for a lighting strike to cause such a widespread power failure.

“ It happened in about 9 seconds,” said Gent on CNN. “ The system is supposed to be designed so that doesn’t happen.” He said it is essential to find out why the grid collapse occurred so rapidly and was so widespread, with a loss of 10 percent of the electricity flowing east of the Rocky Mountains.

The Energy Department issued a statement saying it was working with a variety of federal, state, regional and industry groups “ to assess the situation” and determine a cause.

Steven Whitley, chief operating officer of ISO-New England, which manages that region’s grid, said the disturbance appeared to be triggered by an event somewhere on the transmission line between New York and Ontario but that the exact failure had not been determined.

“ Preliminarily we’re looking at this as a possible transmission problem from Canada to the U.S.,” said Pataki’s spokeswoman, Lisa Dewald Stoll. She said the problem appeared to be in Canada, but she had no details.

Phillip Harris, president of the PJM power grid system, which serves seven states in the mid-Atlantic region, said the grid “ experienced a frequency shift” at 4:11 p.m., causing “ a flow of power northward out of New York.”

Harris said it was too early to determine what trigged the sequence of events but that automatic safeguards prevented the problem from spreading farther south and west, although some parts of his system — in New Jersey and northeastern Pennsylvania — were affected.

“ For some reason there was a power failure in northern New York or southern Canada. That cascaded down through the system,” said New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Officials said it was important to find a cause and rectify any shortcomings that may have led to the failure.

“ We don’t want this ever to happen, but it did and we have to find out why,” said Whitney, the New England grid management group spokesman.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts; US: Michigan; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blackout; lightning; poweroutage

1 posted on 08/15/2003 2:03:19 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
50 million people effected, largest ever.
2 posted on 08/15/2003 2:08:19 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy
Notice the official time, btw...4:11.

On a slightly more serious note, can't the Canadian government officials at least all get their lies in synch? In another thread two Canucks are quoted as saying it was caused by fires at US power plants, one saying nuke, the other saying a conventional plant.

3 posted on 08/15/2003 2:11:20 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
New Yorkers(and most of the East coast) have been having severe weather for the past 3 weeks...high humidity, almost daily thunderstorms, high temps...and this culminated with an oppressively hot day yesterday....

Can't see why this couldn't have or didn't cause a strain on the grid.
4 posted on 08/15/2003 2:13:04 AM PDT by Neets
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To: swilhelm73
The way that the denials of terrorist activity came moments after the outage occured make me think that it was some kind of terrorist activity. To much protest to soon.
5 posted on 08/15/2003 2:16:16 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy
Whether it is or not, let's hope we don't have to wait months like we did witht he LAX shooting to get a more definitive answer.

I think one think we can all be sure of though, the Canadian government is lying...and poorly.
6 posted on 08/15/2003 2:21:16 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73
I think the Canadian Gubmint is always lying!
7 posted on 08/15/2003 2:22:56 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: exnavy
"The way that the denials of terrorist activity came moments after the outage occured make me think that it was some kind of terrorist activity. To much protest to soon."

LOL! Excellent point. I hadn't considered that.
8 posted on 08/15/2003 2:29:02 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Nazi, liberal, what's the difference? Liberals are worse.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
It's just nuts the way they do that.
9 posted on 08/15/2003 2:30:32 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: swilhelm73
I think one thing we can all be sure of though, the Canadian government is lying...and poorly.

Those are my exact thoughts. First it was a lightning strike in the Niagra Falls area, then a fire in a Nuclear Power Plant in another state. And who put this info out. Our lying neighbors to the north. Something happened in Canada and they're hiding it.

10 posted on 08/15/2003 2:39:02 AM PDT by Terp (Retired US Navy now living in Philippines were the Moutains meet the Sea in the Land of Smiles)
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To: swilhelm73
I saw a guy on ABC News yesterday suggesting that hackers might have been messing with the grid control systems. It doesn't have to be bombs and missiles to be terrorism.
11 posted on 08/15/2003 2:45:46 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Never forget: CLINTON PARDONED TERRORISTS)
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To: Fresh Wind
Their spokespeople say sophisticated software is supposed to control overloads and outages. Seems like the software failed.....did somebody say hackers?
12 posted on 08/15/2003 2:51:48 AM PDT by bets
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To: swilhelm73; bets; Fresh Wind; Terp; exnavy; Arthur Wildfire! March; Neets
Related thread on terrorism, hackers and power grids.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/964366/posts?page=19
13 posted on 08/15/2003 3:35:19 AM PDT by Gabrielle Reilly
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To: swilhelm73; All
i think there may be foul play involved here... and wonder what ITF the cretin from up north was doing interjecting the lightning claim???
14 posted on 08/15/2003 6:28:34 AM PDT by CGVet58 (Pater Noster tibi est regnum et potestas et gloria in saecula)
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To: swilhelm73
They don't know what happened... but they know immediately that it wasn't terrorism. Right.....
15 posted on 08/15/2003 7:56:43 AM PDT by Lexington Green
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To: swilhelm73
W32.Blaster.Worm
16 posted on 08/15/2003 7:57:48 AM PDT by Afronaut
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