"What this recall is all about is an assault on the whole political order."
It'll take nothing less than that to clean up the mess. A friend works for the Ocean County court system, state funded, and you wouldn't believe the fiscal-bureaucratic quagmire they're in.
To: Rennes Templar
Well, people can whine about some of Arnie's other weaknesses, but it seems clear that he is standing behind the 187 stuff.
Obviously, anyone who is going to "clean up Kolly-for-neeya" must begin with the immigration mess, or at least include it prominently in the mix. Early indications are that Arnold isn't backing away from this.
2 posted on
08/13/2003 12:28:53 PM PDT by
LS
To: Rennes Templar
As yet, the strategy seems to have done little to hurt Schwarzenegger's political standing. I know they meant the stategy of Arnold's campaign, but their frustrated desperation is so transparent they might have well have meant their own stategy against Arnold's campaign.
To: Rennes Templar
I'm with you. Kathleen Connell, the former Democrat State Controller in California, was on KSFO in San Francisco this morning, talking about the fraud budget the Legislature passed, and outlined what needs to be done, including structural changes to how the budget is approved. Frankly, she made a lot of sense. If all some are interested in is getting a Republican elected in the recall, it's a good thing Connell isn't running. I wouldn't be surprised if she runs in the Democrat's primary in 3 years.
5 posted on
08/13/2003 12:40:44 PM PDT by
My2Cents
("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
To: Rennes Templar
Fasten your seatbelts; it's gonna be a bumpy ride!
P.S. Isn't Maria Shriver's mother pro life?
To: Rennes Templar
Being closely tied to Wilson could present problems for Schwarzenegger...they hope, they hope, they hope...so they keep mentioning it as if it were an evil secret they are couragiously bringing to light.
To: Rennes Templar; LS
...Arnold Schwarzenegger has already shaken up his campaign team...The moves reflect both a scramble to assemble a campaign on the fly the actor surprised even some close advisors with his decision to run and increased assertiveness on the part of the candidate's wife, television correspondent Maria Shriver, who has assumed a central strategy role, according to Republican operatives familiar with the campaign.As Rush likes to say, I NAILED it! I've been saying/predicting this for months. You are NOT going to get The Terminator, you are going get a training ground for the next generation of Kennedy scum. If they are not telling Arnold what to do, then they are sabotaging him.
The only decisions that will have Ah-nuld's prints on them are non-controversial fiscal poilcy, and most (not all) issues that can be solved by reading Milton Friedman's books, and applying their information.
LS--Do you really think Ah-nuld's masters will let him publicly support Prop 187?
8 posted on
08/13/2003 12:47:48 PM PDT by
Captainpaintball
(http://www.ebaumsworld.com/arnolds1.html)
To: Rennes Templar
"I'm going to make sure people are aware, Latinos are aware, of who the people are advising him," said Art Torres, state Democratic Party chairman. "I don't think Arnold is a bad person. I just disapprove of what he stands for and the company he keeps."Apparantly Art Torres disaprove of otherwise nice people hanging out with anybody who was in favor of 187 (which apparantly includes the majority of Californians who voted on it).
I guess one of the reasons Liberals are so quick to accuse others of being close minded bigots is to give them cover.
To: Rennes Templar
Say what you will about AS's political and ideological stances, but he sure has made the race even more interesting than before. And I didn't think that was possible.
10 posted on
08/13/2003 12:49:44 PM PDT by
Old Sarge
(Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
To: Rennes Templar
On his show yesterday, Michael Savage said that both Orrin Hatch and Darrel Issa are attempting to float a constitutional ammendment to remove the requirement that a President must have been born in America, and that Ahhnold has in the past worked on Hatch's re-election campaign. He didn't say where he got this story.
To: Rennes Templar
Even now, he [Wilson] remains a polarizing figure in the Latino community, thanks to his support for Proposition 187, the anti-immigration initiative that passed in 1994. That Wilson is poison among hispanics due to Prop. 187 is asserted by liberals so often as to be received wisdom, but I've never seen any polling data to back it up. The ill fortunes of the Republican party in California are attributed to Prop. 187, but I've not seen it proved that 187 is the cause. Pete Wilson won with Prop. 187. Since then, California Republicans have run from Prop. 187 like a scalded dog, and all they've done is lose.
(Prop. 187 was not an "anti-immigration" initiative. It was an anti immigration-spending initiative. Since it was overturned by a court, the balooning deficits have demonstrated its wisdom.)
26 posted on
08/13/2003 2:38:45 PM PDT by
Plutarch
To: Rennes Templar
DID ANYONE CATCH THIS L.A. TIMES "MISTAKE" --
"he remains a polarizing figure...thanks to his support for Proposition 187, the anti-immigration initiative..."
PROP 187 wasn't ANTI-IMMIGRANT, IT'S ANTI-ILLEGAL-IMMIGRANT, or PRO-LEGAL-CITIZEN/IMMIGRANT
Isn't the L.A. Times, aka the Democrat Party Times, just amazing? I'm sure that was just an oversight on their part.
Right.
Glad I stopped subscribing to that rag year ago. Couldn't take the Leftist propaganda, any more!!
30 posted on
08/13/2003 3:03:51 PM PDT by
4Liberty
( >>>>> Collective Bargaining is for communists.... Privatize Calif. ! <<<<<<<<<)
To: Rennes Templar
Can you imagine how the conversation went?
HHHhhmmmmmm....
(Arnolds accent present esp. when he's mad)
"You call that a campaign???!! You're fired. Somebody get me a campaign, I don't want to look like a girlyman. You there, get me some coffee. Davis, that little wimp I'm gonna crush him like abug. I'm getting a headache, no, it's not a tumor. Where's my coffee?!"
31 posted on
08/13/2003 4:04:51 PM PDT by
Only1choice____Freedom
(If everything you experienced, believed, lived was a lie, would you want to know the truth?)
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