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The Marriage Strike - Why are men reluctant to marry?
Radiofree West Hartford ^ | August 13, 2003 | Wendy McElroy

Posted on 08/13/2003 9:40:36 AM PDT by ddodd3329

Why do fewer people marry?

According to a 1999 National Vital Statistics Report from the CDC, 7.4 per 1,000 Americans married in 1998. From 1990 to 1995, the marriage rate dropped from 9.8 to 7.6. Different sources render other statistics but the trend remains sharply downward.

There is never a single or comprehensive explanation for complex phenomena that are rooted deeply in human psychology. Non-marriage is a particularly difficult issue to address because, as a recent paper from Rutgers University entitled "Why Men Won't Commit" explains, official sources are scarce. "The federal government issues thousands of reports on nearly every dimension of American life. ... But it provides no annual index or report on the state of marriage." Much of the discussion of the motives surrounding non-marriage must be anecdotal, therefore, relying on statistics to provide framework and perspective.

In examining reasons for the current decline of marriage, one question usually receives short shrift. Why are men reluctant to marry?

The Rutgers report -- admittedly based on a small sample -- found ten prevalent reasons. The first three:

They can get sex without marriage;

They can enjoy "a wife" through cohabitation; and,

They want to avoid divorce and its financial risks.

As a critic of anti-male bias in the family courts, the reasons I hear most frequently from non-marrying men are fear of financial devastation in divorce and of losing meaningful contact with children afterward. (Such feedback is anecdotal evidence but, when you hear the same response over a period of years from several hundred different sources, it becomes prudent to listen.)

In a similar vein, the Rutgers report finds: "Many men also fear the financial consequences of divorce. They say that their financial assets are better protected if they cohabit rather than marry. They fear that an ex-wife will 'take you for all you've got' and that 'men have more to lose financially than women' from a divorce."

Increasingly, men are stating their reasons for not marrying on the Internet. In an article entitled "The Marriage Strike," Matthew Weeks expresses a sentiment common to such sites, "If we accept the old feminist argument that marriage is slavery for women, then it is undeniable that -- given the current state of the nation's family courts -- divorce is slavery for men."

Weeks provides the math. One in two marriages will fail with the wife being twice as likely to initiate the proceedings on grounds of "general discontent" -- the minimum requirement of no-fault divorce. The odds of the woman receiving custody of children are overwhelming, with many fathers effectively being denied visitation. The wife usually keeps the "family" assets and, perhaps, receives alimony as well as child support. Many men confront continuing poverty to pay for the former marriage.

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To: Screaming_Gerbil
Would "I'm sorry, I thought you were a lady." be a good (short and to the point) response to these sort of women

It would indeed be a good response, unfortunately I was so stunned that I didn't know what to say at the time. I had never had a lady say anything like that to me for opening a door. Luckily the older fella' took care my retort.

361 posted on 08/14/2003 5:25:10 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: snowstorm12
I really don't want to be controlled by a husband for many years and end up with nothing in the end

Wonderful, I hope you enjoy being the old maid type. Meanwhile take the attitude and stick it. You sound like most liberal women I've had the displeasure of knowing. Have a nice life.

362 posted on 08/14/2003 6:18:26 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: nobdysfool; snowstorm12
It's all about you. What you want. What you need.

Now that you mention it, she does sound rather clintonian...

363 posted on 08/14/2003 6:56:26 AM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void
ping
364 posted on 08/14/2003 7:03:30 AM PDT by msru
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To: Technogeeb
Since Jesus himself said divorce in the case of adultery by the wife is valid, I think a case can be made that a man is truly married only to one wife if the first wife has committed adultery and has been divorced on that basis alone. That marriage, in the words of Jesus, can be ended. I admit it is open to interpretation. If that interpretation is valid, then it is not adultery to remarry. (It is, however, adultery to engage in pre-marital sex, and to lust after women, and so on.)

Nothing I would advocate conflicts with the Bible, but some areas as are open to interpretation. If, for example, Jesus had never explicitly said that adultery is a basis for divorce, then I would agree with your understanding completely. When the Bible provides room for interpretation, I try to be as tolerant as I hope Jesus will be with me.

But there is no room for interpretation, that I can see, for 'casual' divorce for convenience (nor for active homosexuality, nor for idolatry, nor for lots of things that are currently fashionable).
365 posted on 08/14/2003 7:31:15 AM PDT by Gorjus
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To: nobdysfool
From one guy to another, you sound like a decent man. I know people like you personally, and let me assure you if I may that you deserve far better than what you are being presented with and getting.
366 posted on 08/14/2003 7:41:04 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: nobdysfool; snowstorm12
I will look out for my best interests in life just like American men and take advantage of others and opportunities wherever I can. It's the American way.

No, that's her way. As well as legions of others.

I love men and what they can do for me and what I can get out of it. You're simply wrong, I love men.Does anybody here believe that this person loves men. I don't, not for a minute. You've picked an appropriate screen name, snowstorm, because you exude about as much warmth.

The problem isn't that snowstorm is an anomaly; no, she's everywhere you look.

Women in America crack me up---they don't know what oppression is. Maybe we could start rotating them in and out of some Muslim countries, for example. Would probably be quite a learning experience.

I was somewhat serious about immigration earlier. It may be necessary as a matter of survival. Many of these women come from countries where there is true oppression, and they would jump at the opportunity to hook up with a guy like you, friend. So pay snowstorm no mind with her feminist rants.

Like so many women in this country, she's not oppressed. She's spoiled rotten, spoiled to the point where nothing and nobody will ever satisfy her.

Just as in Biblical times the Israelites were warned about marrying members of foreign tribes, the reverse may be true about contemporary America. When I hear most women in America talk, their values sound alien to me.

Maybe it's time to breed them out of existence.

367 posted on 08/14/2003 7:56:11 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: VoiceOfBruck; CatoRenasci
FYI..I believe the study referred to middle class and upper middle class women who were traditional stay at home moms..after the kids were gone..hubby wanted out...no fault made it easy...just divide the assets..no longer any alimony..just a "maintenance" payment for a few years..what always happened was that the house was usually the biggest asset...the women went for it..basically they couldn't afford to keep it, or maintain their lifestyle....while their husbands usually hit their peak earning years after the divorce......I believe the study was reviewed in an article/book by Christine Hoff Sommers, but I could be wrong...
368 posted on 08/14/2003 8:02:47 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: sauropod
pls see my #368
369 posted on 08/14/2003 8:04:27 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: agarrett; Thommas
pls see my #368
370 posted on 08/14/2003 8:04:53 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ddodd3329
Avoidance of the Nag factor... nag, nag, nag, complain, nag, nag, nag, complain, nag, nag, nag, complain...eat.
371 posted on 08/14/2003 8:05:45 AM PDT by Porterville ("They drew first blood, not me.")
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To: xrp
Didn't Gloria Steinem or some 60-something feminist finally get married?

Yes....some rich, white, establishment sort of guy. The kind she exhorted her 'sisters' for years to avoid.

I wonder how many of Gloria's fans are sitting at home alone right now while Gloria trots the globe and laughs all the way to the bank.

372 posted on 08/14/2003 8:05:57 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
EVERYONE posting on this thread should go watch this 2 minute movie that is linked HERE.
373 posted on 08/14/2003 8:07:39 AM PDT by xrp
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To: ddodd3329
they aren't worth it...
374 posted on 08/14/2003 8:09:37 AM PDT by Bill Davis FR
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To: snowstorm12
You must be awfully lonely.

Here's a hint: If you have children as a result of being impregnated by a man, those children belong to both of you, not just YOU. You really should go back to DemocraticUnderground.com as you have exposed yourself as a selfish, liberal hussy.

375 posted on 08/14/2003 8:10:34 AM PDT by xrp
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To: ddodd3329
"If you love me, you'd buy me a bigger diamond."
376 posted on 08/14/2003 8:11:56 AM PDT by SGCOS
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To: SGCOS
I've asked several women in my area (Atlanta Metro) what they thought about Moissanite vs Diamond for engagement stones. They need to be explained to what Moissanite is and I also explain the De Beers control over the diamond market and why diamonds are so much more expensive than they should be. I also inform that the "diamond engagement tradition" is barely 50-60 years old and really just a bunch of De Beers hype. Responses to my conversation include jeers of "you're cheap", "if you really love her why is price an issue" (that can be reversed) to "it HAS to be a diamond! It JUST does!!!" and so on.

Nevermind that Moissanite costs 10% of a diamond's cost, is more brilliant and has more fire and that other 90% value that would be wasted on a diamond could be put into a retirement fund for both of us, add to a downpayment on a house, establish an education fund for future children or private schooling or whatever...

377 posted on 08/14/2003 8:17:18 AM PDT by xrp
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To: xrp
those children belong to both of you, not just YOU.

I caught that also. You'll notice a strong 'me' theme in her posts.

378 posted on 08/14/2003 8:18:53 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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To: snowstorm12
When my husband wakes me each morning, he's sitting in a chair beside our bed and a cup of coffee is waiting for me on the nightstand. After I've taken a sip or two, it never fails, I catch him staring at me and then he tells me I'm beautiful. (Just minutes later when I see myself in a mirror, I scare myself to death.)

I hope and pray that someday you will experience the same thing. There is nothing more wonderful than knowing you are loved.
379 posted on 08/14/2003 8:19:20 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
I'm curious........are you a latina, Quilla?
380 posted on 08/14/2003 8:22:12 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (For or against us.........)
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